Operation: Boosted Tangerine, BACK UP AND RUNNING!!! Options

[SeverX13]

Ok guys. As many of you know i am going to be turboing my celica towards the end of this month/beginning of march. I have a 1994 celica GT coupe with 98k on it. The compression and leak tests went perfect. i only need to get a new valve cover gasket. I plan on turboing with a t3/t4 (ebay turbo). i know im probly gonna take some sh!t for the turbo but honestly i dont care. its my car and i will do with it what i choose. the numbers will show haha. But ive been talkin to Jim for the past 2 years about my build. The original plan was to drive over to jersey and jim and i would install it. but recently i found a garage and dyno that are very close to me. so i will be using that garage to install my turbo set up with my good friend Cam (Boosted185). I cant thank Jim and Cam enough for helping me out with this. I started off as this kid with no knowledge of cars what so ever and now i have alot more knowledge to where i can start my build. Jim really helped me learn alot and i cant thank him enough. Ive asked so many questions (some more then once ) and Jim put up with it all and helped me out so much. again i cant thank him enough. Jim and Shannons builds were a big inspiration to me. but anyway, thats enough of my thoughts haha. I have been ordering parts. I have the I/C, t3/t4 turbo, SAFCII, boost guage, walbro fuel pump, rx7 injectors,HKS BOV, guage pod, and several parts on the way. I am welding a 10an fitting to the 5sfe oil pan instead of the 3s pan. I will be making the custom DP. I will be running an ACT performance clutch and a full 3" exhaust with no res. I will be replacing the water pump and the timing belt as well. My head gasket is composite so i will be upgrading that to metal. I plan on running around 14psi. I will be posting pics of the parts i have later on in the day. I honestly cant wait for this. Its something ive been wanting to do for so long. Its finally becoming a reality.

~Brent~

This post has been edited by SeverX13: Sep 26, 2009 - 7:02 PM

[NGHTKD]

im right behind ya, 5sfte ftw!!!
i cant wait until the fitting all begins!!!

cal.

[_Jim_]

Best of luck Brent, cant wait for the updates

[Tigawoods]

good luck brent! are you going to be doing this while you are around my area? or at home?

[SeverX13]

good luck brent! are you going to be doing this while you are around my area? or at home?

it will be done at home. i should be movin down in july. we should meet up

[Tigawoods]

for sure. we will def do that photoshoot/cruise thing we where talking about

[NGHTKD]

what size/specs are the turbo???

[presure2]

good luck brent!
hope everything goes well for ya!

[SeverX13]

what size/specs are the turbo???

its a t3/t4 ebay turbo .57 trim externally wastegated

[95st-celica]

good luck brent...looks like you got your $hit together...you ever need a hand im not to far let me know...hope everything goes smoothly....when are you planning on starting?

[SeverX13]

good luck brent...looks like you got your $hit together...you ever need a hand im not to far let me know...hope everything goes smoothly....when are you planning on starting?

end of this month or early march

[hurley97]

Your plan sounds pretty well thought out.

I wouldn't really worry about the ebay turbo as much as people might say. It's only a matter of time until any turbo fails but the question with a cheap ebay turbo is how it's going to do it and what kind of damage will follow. Shannon's has held up pretty well so far and she's putting some serious pressure through it.

What I do think you should reconsider is drilling and tapping the 5S oil pan as opposed to just using a 3S oil pan. Drilling and tapping anything is much more at risk to leak than a stock component that's made to not leak and last a long time. If I had the option on the 7A to just swap oil pans instead of drilling and tapping my upper oil pan I definitely would, you have that option and I think you should take advantage of it. Just my $0.02, like you said, it's your car and you will do with it what you want. I wish you luck either way.

This post has been edited by hurley97: Feb 11, 2009 - 8:39 PM

[SeverX13]

Your plan sounds pretty well thought out.

I wouldn't really worry about the ebay turbo as much as people might say. It's only a matter of time until any turbo fails but the question with a cheap ebay turbo is how it's going to do it and what kind of damage will follow. Shannon's has held up pretty well so far and she's putting some serious pressure through it.

What I do think you should reconsider is drilling and tapping the 5S oil pan as opposed to just using a 3S oil pan. Drilling and tapping anything is much more at risk to leak than a stock component that's made to not leak and last a long time. If I had the option on the 7A to just swap oil pans instead of drilling and tapping my upper oil pan I definitely would, you have that option and I think you should take advantage of it. Just my $0.02, like you said, it's your car and you will do with it what you want. I wish you luck either way.

No im gonna pass on that. ill stick with the 5s pan. the weld will be fine. and theres no strain so the weld wont break or anything. ive seen plenty of turbo setups on other cars that add the 10an fitting on. i mean look at teh mistu guys, the honday guys, and the mazda guys. most of them all just add the fitting and they are fine.

[jcaron9gt4]

Just spend the extra $35 to get an oil pan that has it in already, one less thing to worry about. My buddy tapped his and had problems with it leaking and having to re-tap it...etc, etc. It's just not worth the hassle or the risk. And his was done at a shop, not by himself.

[SeverX13]

Just spend the extra $35 to get an oil pan that has it in already, one less thing to worry about. My buddy tapped his and had problems with it leaking and having to re-tap it...etc, etc. It's just not worth the hassle or the risk. And his was done at a shop, not by himself.

nah im goin 5s pan. im gettin it all done for free so it doesnt matter. my mind is set

[lagos]

Just spend the extra $35 to get an oil pan that has it in already, one less thing to worry about. My buddy tapped his and had problems with it leaking and having to re-tap it...etc, etc. It's just not worth the hassle or the risk. And his was done at a shop, not by himself.

nah im goin 5s pan. im gettin it all done for free so it doesnt matter. my mind is set

Rule 1. Don't cheap out on the small stuff.

[_Jim_]

Seems like I waste of an argument. I can only see using the 3s pan if running a CT based turbo, other wise....I see no point. Every other car that doesn't have an accessible oil pan, welds a 10an to there pan and have been doing so for years with NO problems.

There is nothing wrong with welding in a 10an weld fitting to the stock pan, this is not "cheaping" out. I cant see the point in Buying a 3s pan to add an apter fitting to it, to adapt to a 10an line, when you can just weld a 10an weld fitting directly to the factory 5s pan. Like Brent said....This is how Hondas due it, Fords, Chevys, etc.....and have been doing so for years.

Does buying a 3s pan for 50bucks and buying an adapter fitting for 25 bucks work.....Yes
http://www.berktechnology.com/shop/product...29&P_ID=419

Does buying a 10 or 12an weld fitting, welded to your stock 5s oil pan for $6.00 work just as well....Yes
http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS/555/15264/10002/-1

This is not "cheaping out"

[pipes]

Seems like I waste of an argument. I can only see using the 3s pan if running a CT based turbo, other wise....I see no point. Every other car that doesn't have an accessible oil pan, welds a 10an to there pan and have been doing so for years with NO problems.

There is nothing wrong with welding in a 10an weld fitting to the stock pan, this is not "cheaping" out. I cant see the point in Buying a 3s pan to add an apter fitting to it, to adapt to a 10an line, when you can just weld a 10an weld fitting directly to the factory 5s pan. Like Brent said....This is how Hondas due it, Fords, Chevys, etc.....and have been doing so for years.

Does buying a 3s pan for 50bucks and buying an adapter fitting for 25 bucks work.....Yes
http://www.berktechnology.com/shop/product...29&P_ID=419

Does buying a 10 or 12an weld fitting, welded to your stock 5s oil pan for $6.00 work just as well....Yes
http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS/555/15264/10002/-1

This is not "cheaping out"

X2 you guys are kinda pushy on your beliefs imo

[presure2]

yea, i gotta agree with jim on this one, while i "prefer" using the 3s pan, a properly welded fitting onto a 5s pan will work just fine.
and ya cant really argue with "free" now, can ya?
lookin forward to the results, brent!

[jcaron9gt4]

Yes, a properly welded fitting will work fine, key word being properly. IMO, I would rather eliminate the risk by using a factory pan. Either way, goodluck and can't wait to see some progress on this project.

[hurley97]

Yes, a properly welded fitting will work fine, key word being properly. IMO, I would rather eliminate the risk by using a factory pan. Either way, goodluck and can't wait to see some progress on this project.

That was pretty much what I was getting at. But can't beat free I guess. It's not like I'm against welding a fitting to the pan, that's how I have with my return line.

[CelicaST_CALI]

cant wait to see this boosted tangerine put up some #s...

[boosted185]

Just to end the oil pan dilemma. The oil pan is my old 5S pan, and the fittting is being welded on my the welding instructor at my college. He has been welding for over 35 years and his "weekend job" is welding tube race chassis together. I feel as though a man who puts other peoples lives in the balance of his welds will have NO problem with an oil return fitting on an oil pan. Enough said.

Also...Yes, this is a budget build. However, this is NOT the first turbo setup I have ever installed. Its easier for me to list the cars WITHOUT turbos that I've worked on, rather than list the turbo cars. Brent's setup will be VERY similar, if not almost identicle to Shannons setup. Jim has helped oversee this build along with myself, so Brent is in very good hands.

This post has been edited by boosted185: Feb 13, 2009 - 12:33 AM

[NGHTKD]

think ill just use 5s oil pan then, learn new things everyday. cant wait to see progress!!!

[TRD_Ian]

time to speak from experience. I am a welder, iv welded enough fittings to oil pans for friends who have boosted, and down pipes etc etc. if it is done properly (which doesnt take alot of effort) it will be fine, i have fixed a few of other people's bubble gum screw ups were they have brazed the fitting on and it leaked, but iv never had any issues with mine, iv never had anyone come back yet telling me one of my weld's failed. part of my guarantee is a free repair if it fails, 3 years running and no complaints or returns yet that being said.
good luck Brent, i am anxious to see that lil orange fly! no doubt you guys will do the 6thgen fam proud with a sick budget build! make us proud.....

[aznpnoiboi55]

hey good luck man hope its all g for you.....because im right behind you also 5SFTE ALL DAY BABY!!!!!

[trdproven]

YES, its time to get the sleeping giant some recognition.

This post has been edited by trdproven: Feb 16, 2009 - 9:47 AM

[SeverX13]

Ok ive been super busy lately and havnt had time to buy parts. i planned on doin more this weekend but it ended up that iw asnt near a computer all weekend. so hopefully tomorrow i will be able to start getting mroe parts that i need. clutch,wastegate, piping, etc. But sadly the install will probly take place early to mid march. because Cam could not get off work haha. all is good tho. im hopeing to get my exhaust installed in the next week or 2!.

[boosted185]

Well, aside from the fact that I can't get off work that weekend, the fact that someone was neglecting their parts buying responsibilities this weekend by hustling ppl, jumping off houses, running from cops, fornicating, getting slammed into walls, and breaking body parts, things might be moving a long a little faster

juuuuuuuust playin

[SeverX13]

Well, aside from the fact that I can't get off work that weekend, the fact that someone was neglecting their parts buying responsibilities this weekend by hustling ppl, jumping off houses, running from cops, fornicating, getting slammed into walls, and breaking body parts, things might be moving a long a little faster

juuuuuuuust playin

u forgot bareknuckle fights hahahahaha. my bad. i had a fun weekend so sue me

[boosted185]

and streetball, and eating sh*t skateboarding and knocking out a frat kid.....i think that sums it up nicely now.

[SeverX13]

u looked at teh text hahahaha. i think thats everything i cant remember

[crankyelbow]

So what is the cost of this budget build?

[SeverX13]

under 2g

[crankyelbow]

sweet man.. I'll be watching closely and gaining inspiration =)

[SeverX13]

Im glad man, inspiration is what got me to keep my celica and turbo it. Jim and Shannon's celica's were my inspiration.

[crankyelbow]

btw, I hope one day to paint my car a similar color to yours... orange has for as long as I've seen a burnt orange 350z been my fav car color.

Where can I find some more pics of your ride?

[SeverX13]

btw, I hope one day to paint my car a similar color to yours... orange has for as long as I've seen a burnt orange 350z been my fav car color.

Where can I find some more pics of your ride?

www.myspace.com/brentxs

[boosted185]

So its starting to look more along the lines of Mid to Late March. But its all good, PA weather isnt that nice until then anyway. Also, it will give you (and me) more time to weed out a few more small things. I just hope the Mexican can make it back to PA with me then too.

[SeverX13]

So its starting to look more along the lines of Mid to Late March. But its all good, PA weather isnt that nice until then anyway. Also, it will give you (and me) more time to weed out a few more small things. I just hope the Mexican can make it back to PA with me then too.

If not we can always have John help us out

[boosted185]

UG would make him cry...

[SeverX13]

and the coilovers just for the hell of it lol. i still ahve some mroe parts on the way and like 2 i havent taken pictures yet

[jcaron9gt4]

Ah....reminds me of when I started my project. Getting all the parts in, a new box coming each day. Can't wait to see the start of this, take lots of pictures!

[SeverX13]

Ah....reminds me of when I started my project. Getting all the parts in, a new box coming each day. Can't wait to see the start of this, take lots of pictures!

oh dont woryy im takin TONS of pictures

[boosted185]

yeah, its going to be like the damn paparazzi are going to be there during the build...

[SeverX13]

hahaah basically

[_Jim_]

AWESOME BRENT, you must be VERY excited!!!!

[nate95]

So why is eveyone using ebay turbos?? they are cheap and you get what you pay for.. back when i turbo'd my celica i used the t3/t4 .57 trim ebay turbo and that thing never stopped spitting oil

[supershannon77]

yeah you are right they don't work. Why would anyone use an ebay turbo?

[bmj67]

haha nice sarcasm Shannon. 285whp with an ebay turbo yeah thats just crap. It should have made at least 286whp

[_Jim_]

So why is eveyone using ebay turbos?? they are cheap and you get what you pay for.. back when i turbo'd my celica i used the t3/t4 .57 trim ebay turbo and that thing never stopped spitting oil

Nate, its sounds as tho you tried more than one "Ebay" turbo on the same setup.....What size feed line were you using? A common problem with these turbos is "blowing seals." This problem is alleviated when the proper size feed line is used...3an, or a 4an with an oil restrictor.

[presure2]

yeah you are right they don't work. Why would anyone use an ebay turbo?

[SeverX13]

So why is eveyone using ebay turbos?? they are cheap and you get what you pay for.

whys is everyone hatein on ebay turbos? lol

[punkuup5150]

im glad to see my coilovers are going to good use

[garin]

you have some nice toys there brent. we gotta get together sometimes again. btw which coilovers are they.

[SeverX13]

yea man we definatly should meet up sometime. i remeber you tigerwoods and myself were gonna plan a photoshoot? but they are ebay coilovers ahha

[garin]

yeah. getting the car painted in late march. i might throw some metallic in that 3L2 red. curren tails and 7gc rims are going on too. april maybe? when are you gonna start your project? what are you gonna be driving till it's done?

[lagos]

So why is eveyone using ebay turbos?? they are cheap and you get what you pay for.

whys is everyone hatein on ebay turbos? lol

I'm all for it. If it works, why not?
But I have to say, there is something odd when you spend more money on your Bov then you do on your Boost.

[SeverX13]

So why is eveyone using ebay turbos?? they are cheap and you get what you pay for.

whys is everyone hatein on ebay turbos? lol

I'm all for it. If it works, why not?
But I have to say, there is something odd when you spend more money on your Bov then you do on your Boost.

good point

when are you gonna start your project? what are you gonna be driving till it's done?

March 20th is the start date. i wont be driving antthing else it will be done my the following wednesday if all goes smoothly

[boosted185]

Brent... have ye no faith...She will be assembled by sunday night, and go to the exhaust shop monday, and get tuned on Tuesday. Give me enough energy drinks, i'll get s**t done. We'll be good to go! and I'll be haulin your ass around for parts when needed.

This post has been edited by boosted185: Feb 24, 2009 - 12:47 AM

[SeverX13]

haha cam i know that. i ment that EVERYTHING wil be done wednesday. as in tune adn ****. so ill be driving around doin what i want lol

[crankyelbow]

good news man

Get the insert for the SSQ... one of them makes a sweet sound, one makes it louder... I have it on my yaris and the loud squeak has long since been annoying... the "whoosh" is so much more dailyable...

Maybe worth looking into

[SeverX13]

good news man

Get the insert for the SSQ... one of them makes a sweet sound, one makes it louder... I have it on my yaris and the loud squeak has long since been annoying... the "whoosh" is so much more dailyable...

Maybe worth looking into

? explain haha

[hurley97]

good news man

Get the insert for the SSQ... one of them makes a sweet sound, one makes it louder... I have it on my yaris and the loud squeak has long since been annoying... the "whoosh" is so much more dailyable...

Maybe worth looking into

Yaris ??

[SeverX13]

good news man

Get the insert for the SSQ... one of them makes a sweet sound, one makes it louder... I have it on my yaris and the loud squeak has long since been annoying... the "whoosh" is so much more dailyable...

Maybe worth looking into

Yaris ??

Toyota Yaris. its like a small hatchback. kinda like the honda fit

[hurley97]

haha... yes I work at a dealership, I know very well what a Yaris is. I have not yet seen or heard of a turbo Yaris or someone with a want/need to turbo their Yaris.

[SeverX13]

haha... yes I work at a dealership, I know very well what a Yaris is. I have not yet seen or heard of a turbo Yaris or someone with a want/need to turbo their Yaris.

haha my bad. when i saw "yaris?" is thought u didnd kno what it was lol

[boosted185]

T minus 2 weeks.

[SeverX13]

T minus 2 weeks.

hell yea. i got more parts. ive been slackin on the pics. sometime this weekend ill get more up.

[boosted185]

which parts came in

[SeverX13]

which parts came in

wastegate, haedgasket,headbolts,flange, wideband, boost controller

[trdproven]

haha... yes I work at a dealership, I know very well what a Yaris is. I have not yet seen or heard of a turbo Yaris or someone with a want/need to turbo their Yaris.

Ive seen turbo Toyota Vitz, its JDM counterpart.

[SeverX13]

NEW PARTS!!! WHOOP!












almost there.

[presure2]

looking good man!

[95st-celica]

niccccee brent...glad everything is commin together....parts look good

[92-gt]

Some of those parts look mighty familiar...

I cant wait to see the end result man!

[crankyelbow]

good news man

Get the insert for the SSQ... one of them makes a sweet sound, one makes it louder... I have it on my yaris and the loud squeak has long since been annoying... the "whoosh" is so much more dailyable...

Maybe worth looking into

? explain haha

http://www.hksusa.com/products/?id=796

youtube probably has clips of the different sounds

Why not recirculation?

[SeverX13]

clutch from doctor tweak!

[boosted185]

Hey everyone, since Brent is neglecting his thread (just playin Brent) I'll update you all. As of right now the tenative schedule is as follows. Next weekend, 21st-22nd, all the parts are being installed. Tuesday the car is going to the exhaust shop, and Thursday, shes getting loaded on a trailer and heading to the Dyno. Should have dyno results for everyone to google at later that night, or friday.

[supershannon77]

awesome ...sounds good...can't wait...TY CAM for the update...Brent..be good.

[SeverX13]

i see how it is. i post pics. and get no love. cam posts with an update that i was about to do and people reply lol

[95st-celica]

what kind of numbers are you expecting brent? everything looks good so far...what kind of clutch?

[SeverX13]

what kind of numbers are you expecting brent? everything looks good so far...what kind of clutch?

hopfully around the same as shannons

i got the clutch from Doctor Tweak. manny has the same clutch.

[SeverX13]

UPDATE:

Boosting on saturday! hopefulyl everything should go smoothly. then tuesday its to the exhaust shop for a full 3". and thursday its to the dyno to get a tune and some numbers!!!

Boosted tangerine comine soon!

[_Jim_]

AWESOME BRENT, you must be very excited! GL and I hope it all goes smoothly for you.

[95st-celica]

GL and I hope it all goes smoothly for you.

x2...you should be pleased with your results

[SeverX13]

BUILD STARTS TOMORROW(21st) AT 8AM!!!

[95st-celica]

Git er done

[lburner]

take lot's of pics & good lck pimpin

[92-gt]

Sweet man, cant wait to see the results. Hope everything works out great!!!!

[presure2]

GOOD LUCK BRENT & CREW!!

[808Celica2damax]

awesome man! lemme know how it turns out. PICTURES!!!!!

[jcaron9gt4]

come on, it's been an hour......boosted yet?

[supershannon77]

x2 this should be done by now...Ill be waited impatiently.

[presure2]

ok its monday morning....where is the boosted tangerine!?!?

[DEATH]

Update?

[Defgeph]

ok its monday morning....where is the boosted tangerine!?!?

It probably turned into a pulpy orange juice.

[_Jim_]

All good things come to those who wait. Keep up the good work you too.

[TRD_Ian]

aw what no up date, frigin scene girly get ur but in gear

[NGHTKD]

ohhh ****, getting nervous...