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post Sep 30, 2007 - 8:29 AM
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As many of you know I'm going to turbo the 7A. wink.gif


So first things first, with the help of Garrett's Turbo Tech 103 (Expert), I did the compressor flow map calculations... try to follow along, if you have any questions just ask...

here are the EQUATIONS:


and the CALCULATIONS (for a 7AFE with a target of 200hp at the flywheel):


then you need to plot some numbers on the COMPRESSOR FLOW MAP of your choice
I got a small Garrett 2052 which should be enough for my goals


From just looking at different compressor flow maps you'll learn a lot. In general, the closer the turbine and exhaust housing sizes the wider your power range will be but the maximum boost level is limited. When the sizes are significantly different you'll notice the compressor map will look taller and thinner, that gives you a smaller RPM range you can boost in but you can achieve higher boost levels in that range.

This post has been edited by hurley97: Jul 24, 2009 - 5:13 PM


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post Sep 30, 2007 - 8:53 AM
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good stuff steff, keep it comin!


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post Sep 30, 2007 - 11:50 AM
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this is going to be a good thread biggrin.gif


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post Sep 30, 2007 - 5:00 PM
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Hey guys, I'm the Piloter who's doing the 7AGE build over at ToyotaNation, just thought I'd stop lurking and drop by for this thread in particular.

I've been doing some intensive modeling of the 7AFE/7AGE/7AFTE/7AGTE/7AGZE/7AFZE via Engine Analyzer Pro and trying to get a selection of compatible turbos/superchargers programmed in as options, thus I've been reading a LOT of flow maps. This was originally created for the VW guys, and I've modified it slightly to give conversion factors of airflow in pretty much every unit possible, you'll just have to modify the VE at your discretion and plug in numbers to boost RPMs and PSIs.

http://rapidshare.com/files/59382057/18tCo...ctions.xls.html

I have to head to work right now, but just off the top of my head the best turbos to start looking at if you want 7 PSI by 3K (what I've been simulating for) would be a GT2552R or a TD04-15. The GT2862RS ('disco potato') and T3-'Super 60' will both come up on 7 PSI by 4K, but that's with the flow figures for a bigport 16V head. Hope this helps.
post Oct 2, 2007 - 10:22 PM
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I have already bought a turbo. When I get some time I'll post up the compressor map for it and explain where to plot the lines and how to tell how much boost it will make and when.


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post Oct 2, 2007 - 10:26 PM
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damn girl, you got more projects then the ghetto! laugh.gif


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post Oct 2, 2007 - 10:38 PM
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but for now I'll introduce the rest of my turbo project...

What little things I have so far:

AFC Neo Fuel Controller
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Oil Pressure and Boost Gauges
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Manual Boost Controller
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2 Bar MAP Sensor
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Rebuilt 7AFE waiting to be put back together and boosted
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Log Style Exhaust Manifold
(I can't find the picture of it... and its at work so I can't take one)

Turbo
(being FedEx'd from Canada at the moment)




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post Oct 2, 2007 - 10:44 PM
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I have a feeling your lil ST is gonna kick some serious dyno ass


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post Oct 3, 2007 - 5:13 AM
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QUOTE(lagos @ Oct 2, 2007 - 11:26 PM) [snapback]600977[/snapback]

damn girl, you got more projects then the ghetto! laugh.gif

hahaha...

(I know that was pointless but I just had to respond to that one)


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post Oct 3, 2007 - 7:15 AM
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steph do you mind if i add this to the 7afte sticky, since it is missing this data
post Oct 3, 2007 - 4:27 PM
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QUOTE(playr158 @ Oct 3, 2007 - 8:15 AM) [snapback]601078[/snapback]

steph do you mind if i add this to the 7afte sticky, since it is missing this data

thats fine with me Dan.

Once I add more about the calculations and actual flow maps I'll see if someone can move it around so it's all together and away from all my turbo setup stuff.


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post Oct 3, 2007 - 5:07 PM
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thanks chica smile.gif
post Oct 3, 2007 - 7:16 PM
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QUOTE(hurley97 @ Oct 2, 2007 - 8:38 PM) [snapback]600982[/snapback]

but for now I'll introduce the rest of my turbo project...

What little things I have so far:


Oil Pressure and Boost Gauges
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heyyy! i have those same ones. color n all


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post Oct 3, 2007 - 7:37 PM
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dan are u a m0d?


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post Oct 3, 2007 - 11:13 PM
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QUOTE(hurley97 @ Oct 3, 2007 - 5:27 PM) [snapback]601252[/snapback]

QUOTE(playr158 @ Oct 3, 2007 - 8:15 AM) [snapback]601078[/snapback]

steph do you mind if i add this to the 7afte sticky, since it is missing this data

thats fine with me Dan.

Once I add more about the calculations and actual flow maps I'll see if someone can move it around so it's all together and away from all my turbo setup stuff.



i think you should have your own "stickie". you did the research and you deserve the credit.

i have to confess. i see all the math and research, and then i see that pic of the neo, and its kind of a buzz kill for me..lol


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post Oct 4, 2007 - 10:31 AM
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another 7afte project keep up the great work oh and dont forget to port match that helps


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post Oct 6, 2007 - 6:53 PM
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my turbo is here... and its little, just like everything else in the 7A, perfect match if you ask me wink.gif


I tried to give an idea of size with some of the pics but it just makes my hand look big... so keep in mind I have tiny hands...

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post Oct 6, 2007 - 7:02 PM
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Use a coke can next time wink.gif , big hands or little turbo, either way looking good biggrin.gif


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post Oct 6, 2007 - 10:14 PM
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mmm yummy turbo!
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post Oct 6, 2007 - 11:17 PM
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that looks similiar to my turbo hmm!


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