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post Mar 11, 2010 - 9:42 PM
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Hey guys i just started going to the gym and
i wanted to know what you guys take (proteins, suplements, etc)
i bouth a tube of Cytogainer and Jack3d,,,
jack3d is suppose to give you energy and focus for the work out
but i just feel the focus and the taste well,,,,
i could not drink it!!!!!!!!
i had to mix it with SOBE energy drink (pina colada) so
i could drink it!
anyone experiences with it or any other supplements?


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post Mar 11, 2010 - 9:51 PM
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Cytosport Muscle Milk....chocolate....tastes awesome when VIGORIOUSLY mixed into milk. (if u dont mix it well...ull get floaty things and it will taste like dry powder) it contains 16g of protein per serving. (there was a new one that had like 32g per serving but that just seemd ridiculous)
I take 1 scoop (they supply the scooper) in 6-8 oz of milk after a work out.

edit: Anything with Whey protein is the way to go

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post Mar 11, 2010 - 11:32 PM
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i take mega men multi vitamin extreme althlete,Super Fiber 7.5g. after, after workout: Amplified wheybolic extreme 60 (vanila) (morning) real goood stuff

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post Mar 12, 2010 - 12:20 AM
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I take daily vitamins, along with 16oz milk in the morning, 16oz milk with 1 scoop whey protein (30g) before and after a workout. Also, watch your daily diet, that will have a lot to do with losing weight and building muscle. My diet consits of maily chicken, pork and extra lean beef. I also do eat a decent amount of pasta for the carbs. Carbs are a good source for engery. Check out the website www.bodybuilding.com. They have some great meal plans that are setup for everyones specific goals. My goals were to tone up and build a little muscle, I'm a skinny kid haha. With eating right and going to the gym, I lost about 10lbs of fat but gained about 6 back in muscle in 3 weeks. Also, A guy that I met at the gym that I go to used to be a personal trainer. he gave me a set of workouts to do DAILY at home. They are great. If you want to know more about them, just let me know. Good luck!


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post Mar 12, 2010 - 12:25 AM
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Im even interested....send me a PM whenever you can describing said home activities.


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post Mar 12, 2010 - 1:24 AM
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QUOTE (devilsden97 @ Mar 11, 2010 - 9:51 PM) *
Cytosport Muscle Milk....chocolate....tastes awesome when VIGORIOUSLY mixed into milk. (if u dont mix it well...ull get floaty things and it will taste like dry powder) it contains 16g of protein per serving. (there was a new one that had like 32g per serving but that just seemd ridiculous)
I take 1 scoop (they supply the scooper) in 6-8 oz of milk after a work out.

edit: Anything with Whey protein is the way to go


yeah i used to take muscle milk collegiate but i saw really low benefits..
but i did gained like 10 lbs of pure muscle, however i stopped going to the gym for
6 months and i lost all that.
i switched to Cytogainer from Cytosport since it has 54g of whey protein and
i have heard really good reviews from it. Chocolate malt is AWESOME
you only take one scoop? it is suppose to be at least 3


QUOTE (toyocelic @ Mar 11, 2010 - 11:32 PM) *
i take mega men multi vitamin extreme althlete,Super Fiber 7.5g. after, after workout: Amplified wheybolic extreme 60 (vanila) (morning) real goood stuff


you dont take any pre-workout suplements?


QUOTE (boosted185 @ Mar 12, 2010 - 12:20 AM) *
I take daily vitamins, along with 16oz milk in the morning, 16oz milk with 1 scoop whey protein (30g) before and after a workout. Also, watch your daily diet, that will have a lot to do with losing weight and building muscle. My diet consits of maily chicken, pork and extra lean beef. I also do eat a decent amount of pasta for the carbs. Carbs are a good source for engery. Check out the website www.bodybuilding.com. They have some great meal plans that are setup for everyones specific goals. My goals were to tone up and build a little muscle, I'm a skinny kid haha. With eating right and going to the gym, I lost about 10lbs of fat but gained about 6 back in muscle in 3 weeks. Also, A guy that I met at the gym that I go to used to be a personal trainer. he gave me a set of workouts to do DAILY at home. They are great. If you want to know more about them, just let me know. Good luck!


i check that website for reviews, really good site and forums. people do help you a lot in there.
you have to be careful with carbs though,, they can make you fat if you eat too much carbs,
workuouts daily at home? post them here man!
i am tryng to follow a program from vince del monte,, have you heard of it?
has really good work outs but i find it difficult to follow his meal plans.
Taking milk with whey protein helps you get through out the workout?
have you taken Jack3d? it works good for me but it just gives me a lot of focus but no energy as others say
and the tastee,,, i just take it to get through my goal...


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post Mar 12, 2010 - 6:16 AM
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I shoot up with steroids, gatorade, and rockstar after snorting a line. I think it works pretty good.
(Clearly I was joking)

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post Mar 12, 2010 - 6:39 AM
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QUOTE (joehernandez @ Mar 12, 2010 - 3:42 AM) *
Hey guys i just started going to the gym and
i wanted to know what you guys take (proteins, suplements, etc)
i bouth a tube of Cytogainer and Jack3d,,,
jack3d is suppose to give you energy and focus for the work out
but i just feel the focus and the taste well,,,,
i could not drink it!!!!!!!!
i had to mix it with SOBE energy drink (pina colada) so
i could drink it!
anyone experiences with it or any other supplements?


Simply... you need two things:

a) get energy somewhere
b) get "construction material"

First you receive from carbohydrates. Second from proteins.

Whey protein supplement is combination of both in one.


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post Mar 12, 2010 - 7:45 AM
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post Mar 12, 2010 - 10:18 AM
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QUOTE (Random_Stranger @ Mar 12, 2010 - 7:16 AM) *
I shoot up with steroids, gatorade, and rockstar after snorting a line. I think it works pretty good.
(Clearly I was joking)




lol that was funny/. biggrin.gif


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post Mar 12, 2010 - 8:08 PM
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just work out. you will gain results without taking supplements.. the only thing supplements do is "speed up the process". But I honestly don't think thats true.. you just need to do the right work outs.. I've taken creatine.. whey.. you name it and I think the best/only way to gain results is to workout correctly.. 5 days a week.. no half a$$ing.


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post Mar 13, 2010 - 4:35 PM
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supplements is only as effective as eating right and working out right. I go to the gym too. 1/1 protein:pound ratio if you want a steady gain. if you wanna get bigger faster. do a 1 1/2:1 ratio. make sure you work out right though. read up biggrin.gif
post Mar 13, 2010 - 8:42 PM
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QUOTE (SlvrCelica09 @ Mar 12, 2010 - 8:08 PM) *
just work out. you will gain results without taking supplements.. the only thing supplements do is "speed up the process". But I honestly don't think thats true.. you just need to do the right work outs.. I've taken creatine.. whey.. you name it and I think the best/only way to gain results is to workout correctly.. 5 days a week.. no half a$$ing.

I semi-agree with this. You can't really build muscle without some form of protein, you can get really tone and cut but not really build. That is cool with me since I don't like looking like a gym jockey, but you have got to admit when you take certain supplements to increase energy, man it really helps the process out. Not so much the time as much as motivation to actually do the work.


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post Mar 14, 2010 - 3:47 PM
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Supplements are a waste of time IF... IF you also eat right. If you eat right, you won't need supplements. That's why they're called supplements. They supplement your diet. Its true. You can't build muscle without some form of protein. So eat some meat. The only way you should be supplementing protein is if you're a complete vegetarian. If you start eating too much protein, it doesn't DO ANYTHING except pass right through and make your farts extra stanky. That's when you're literally s*****g your money away. Anything else out there has NO science behind it at all, and may have more side effects than the manufacturer even knows about. The way muscle builds is like so. When you work out, you actually tear apart your muscle cells. Then your body uses protein to rebuild the cells stronger.

Best way to work out is keep track of what you do. Focus on 2-3 muscle groups a day (IE: Bi-s and Tri-s vs. Lats and delts, vs. chest and back vs quads and hams, vs neck and abs) 5 days a week and no half a$$ing. So keep track of what you do. You should rotate them and work out each muscle group at the same weight (Or go up if you deem it necessary, make sure to notate weights with corresponding exercises) every time so that you get a full body workout over the course of the week. This keeps you from tearing yourself apart top to bottom every day and wind up hating going to the gym.

For the workouts themselves. If you want to get big, go for heavier weights. And if you get to the point where you can get 10 reps on a set weight on a set exercise, go up in weight. If you're looking to get ripped or stay ripped, go with lighter weights, and higher reps.
post Mar 14, 2010 - 7:05 PM
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anyone have any opinions of what can give you more energy to work out with out the protein and carbs?
post Mar 14, 2010 - 9:57 PM
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QUOTE (Hanyo @ Mar 14, 2010 - 7:05 PM) *
anyone have any opinions of what can give you more energy to work out with out the protein and carbs?

I like coffee, but a lot of people like to use that 5 hour energy stuff. I have seen people simply use water and Xyience. Personally, coffee and some weights with music is enough to make me work out for like an hour or 3.


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post Mar 14, 2010 - 10:41 PM
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whey protein, syntha-6 is a great lean protein, but i'd avoid EAS stuff... IMO- it tastes terrible....blah.
lots of water and if you're trying to slim up, either jump rope for long periods of time or run (not jog) run.


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post Mar 14, 2010 - 11:23 PM
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Coffee dehydrates you. That's bad juju for a gym. Just drink some orange juice before you go. Water is also good. And just throw on some music that amps you up. My workout music of choice is Trivium's CD "Shogun". That s*** makes me feel like fighting a giant bear!
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QUOTE (lilgreenyoda @ Mar 15, 2010 - 12:23 AM) *
Coffee dehydrates you. That's bad juju for a gym. Just drink some orange juice before you go. Water is also good. And just throw on some music that amps you up. My workout music of choice is Trivium's CD "Shogun". That s*** makes me feel like fighting a giant bear!


to go off of what he just said, i was reading... mens fitness (i think) and it said that crappy music while lifting can constrict your blood vessels up to 7or8% i think is what it said. so if you're not a fan of the crappy music be sure to take your own.


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QUOTE (lilgreenyoda @ Mar 14, 2010 - 11:23 PM) *
Coffee dehydrates you. That's bad juju for a gym. Just drink some orange juice before you go. Water is also good. And just throw on some music that amps you up. My workout music of choice is Trivium's CD "Shogun". That s*** makes me feel like fighting a giant bear!

ha ha yeah, coffee makes me piss a lot and drink more water, but the benefits outweigh the consequence in working out for me smile.gif. I just drink more water, or orange juice since that helps with lactic acids.

I liked Ascendancy a lot more then I did shogun, because shogun seemed more like "LOOK WHAT I CAN DO ON THE GUITAR" and less, "This is badass ****." If that makes sense lol. But Deftones by far are my favorite workout/reading music. White Pony FTW.


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post Mar 15, 2010 - 10:00 AM
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Prework out - Multivitamins..tried no xplode, superpump 250 and now I have been trying jack3d for a couple of weeks
During - Gatorade mix ( it's cheap and the electrolytes-salt- help keep water in your system) but I prefer WAR by MRI but it is more costly
after - iso mass extreme gainer. Has creatine and a good amount of protein per serving- it also comes in a 10lb jug and it's FULL! Strawberry is most tolerable ( I have not really gained a huge amount of weight from it but I only take one serving a day instead of 3) nitro core 24 is pretty good as well


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post Mar 15, 2010 - 12:53 PM
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QUOTE (b1gr3d @ Mar 15, 2010 - 11:00 AM) *
Prework out - Multivitamins..tried no xplode, superpump 250 and now I have been trying jack3d for a couple of weeks
During - Gatorade mix ( it's cheap and the electrolytes-salt- help keep water in your system) but I prefer WAR by MRI but it is more costly
after - iso mass extreme gainer. Has creatine and a good amount of protein per serving- it also comes in a 10lb jug and it's FULL! Strawberry is most tolerable ( I have not really gained a huge amount of weight from it but I only take one serving a day instead of 3) nitro core 24 is pretty good as well


hey how has jack3d worked for you?
i havent tried iso mass extreme but i havent seen much good reviews..
are you following a diet or a meal plan?
that might be why you dont increase weight


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So far I am liking jack3d but I got my best results with noxplode mixed with creatine and war during my workout.
The isomass I will say is ok. Taste is about a 6-7 and effectiveness I will say is the same. I have tried a couple of jugs of it again between 1 and 3 2 scoop shakes when I calls for 3 3 scoopers. Also it calls for 2%milk and I use water so just that is a 300 cal difference per serving

My diet is in the middle of a bit of a change be ause m work scheduale has changed but it WAS:
wake up at 7 eat hashbrowns, eggwhites and turkey bacon.
Work out at 8-8:30 until 9:30 -protein shake
work at 10
lunch at 230- usually chicken breast and veg. Or some other oven baked meat and veg or mac and cheese/ pasta
go home at 830 and eat pretty much whatever my lady made.
I basically eat whenever I get a chance just so Long as the food isn't bad for me.
I'm also not really tryin to gain alot but just lean out what I have
Bench-275

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Fish oil, mega man, and all those fat burner / energy supplements are a waste of money. Just eat right, watch your sugar and fat intake and you will notice that your actually losing weight. Clearly the gym has never really done anything for me other than lift a few weights, get tired out, then stare at females.
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Also what helps is getting a good mix of motivational/ metal on an mp3 player and lifting pissed.


it is extremely hard to get all of your required vitamins and minerals but just eating food, that is why there are supplements and vitamins. And even if you did have the "magic meal plan" where you somehow did why wouldn't you still take supplements and get more results?

Sidenote: look up German volume training. Then let's see how you feel in 4-6 weeks

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QUOTE (soulshadow @ Mar 18, 2010 - 9:41 PM) *
Fish oil, mega man, and all those fat burner / energy supplements are a waste of money. Just eat right, watch your sugar and fat intake and you will notice that your actually losing weight. Clearly the gym has never really done anything for me other than lift a few weights, get tired out, then stare at females.


Actually i have had good results with energy supplements. Sure you need to watch what you eat.
If the gym has done anything for you other than get tired and stare at females you are just
wasting your time man.
not to be rude but you it seems you to the gym for no reason.
Going to the gym without a plan is like finding a treasure without a map.
I actually stare at females but that's after im done with the exercise plan.


QUOTE (b1gr3d @ Mar 18, 2010 - 10:24 PM) *
Also what helps is getting a good mix of motivational/ metal on an mp3 player and lifting pissed.


it is extremely hard to get all of your required vitamins and minerals but just eating food, that is why there are supplements and vitamins. And even if you did have the "magic meal plan" where you somehow did why wouldn't you still take supplements and get more results?

Sidenote: look up German volume training. Then let's see how you feel in 4-6 weeks


I have tried lifting with music that pumps me up and it really helps you a lot.
Actually today i tried Jack3d (3 scoops) and wooow it did helped me a lot!
i do weights with my friend and he was like "are you ok?" and i was like yeah why
and then he says "you don't seem to get tired" and i am just like,, oh i am just happy lol

following a meal plan is harder than it looks. if you don't have the time to eat every three hours
it sooo hard.

i will look that up man, thanks...


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Whoa 3 scoops may be a little much lol. Yeah eating every 2-3 hrs is best but it's hard as hell. At my work we get breaks every 2 hrs so that helps though. It's kind of Finn hearing people wonder " how do you et so much and stay skinny?" the German volume workout- I have done it twice now following it to a t and impoves my bench by 20lbs eah time!! That is why I like it ...... That and you get REAL GOOD endurance


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i have been trying jack3d and i get this kind of depression after the gym,
is like i dont want to go out i feel so down man!
i kind of starting to hate the stuff.
I have gained 5 lbs of muscle in 4 weeks, i guess i am on the right track.

@bigr3d i look up german volume training, but i kind of dont get it...
could you explain that to me?


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I used to take whey protein, now I take nothing. Just started working out again last week.


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QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ Apr 8, 2010 - 2:35 PM) *
I used to take whey protein, now I take nothing. Just started working out again last week.


what is your routine?


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i used body fortress whey protein strawberry flavor. its dirt cheap, bucks. taste good to me, works for me!


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