ST204 5SFE PROJECT, boost , paint, rebuild Options

[TRD11]

hey guys ...... just picked up a non running 96 celica gt for 1000 bucks about 6 months ago with a half fast turbo kit . i wish i had pics ........... it had pvc plastic pipe as intercooler pipe and a 14mm socket welded in the oil pan for the oil drain and also had that **** plastic nylon tube you get for a boost gauge he had it as a oil feed to the turbo ...the hole kit he made cost him 400 bucks what a joke //////// going to give you guys the low down on the new project car !!!!!!




what she looked like when i first got her ....... looks good in the pic butt it is ruff




as i whas pulling the first piston out it fell into 5 peaces and the compression rings where broke in half ... thank god the block is fine



got new nipon 87.00 mm pistons







i got a rebuilt head for 350 bucks





as the first start i had some miner leaks like the injector o ring was twisted but it was an easy fix.

so i got 10.000 miles on the fresh engine with and still running like a champ ....... now HERE COMES THE PAINT ......dent ,,,,dent dent,,,





i welded up the front side lights and cut out new side light holes in the back of the fender for the sleeker look .. got them out of 2003 land rover fenders witch are very nice because they have a orange smoked color






there whas a ugly brace in the middle of the wing i had to get rid of













all taped and all primed ready to paint ..... i used a ford black .. the paint code is UA ...transtar product and allso clear








right after the over spray cleared out i had to take a pic ....... or two









a day after the wet sand and buffed




BOOST TIME

ebey stainless log for 150 buck and 38mm turbonetics wastegate








polished up the air housing and paint the exhaust side and got the down pipe off of ebay .............. if you have any questions about this i can send any one links /////// turbo is a t3 with 63 exhaust wheel and 50 air




the new tial bov its like Christmas when i get home and this **** is sitting on the steps lol



and this is where i am at right now i took them today












im thinking of getting this front bumper .....NO OR YES ...




and the rota torque ....... bad ass








This post has been edited by TRD11: Nov 29, 2011 - 9:11 PM

[HectortheRican]

Good work so far!

[NGHTKD]

can't wait to see all the progress with this!

[TRD11]

hey thanks

[smkr3w]

dont mean to sound like an idiot (though i prolly will), but i was under the impression to turbo a 5s you needed a 3s head/manifold, but obviously you made it work with a 5s head.. tbh im confused lol

This post has been edited by smkr3w: Apr 3, 2011 - 5:38 PM

[TRD11]

well i heard that the 3s head will give you more over all hp butt it is fine to boost 5sfe

[SwissFerdi]

^ Definitely is.

I like this build a lot, very clean but seems to be done right. Also, nice "Home Depot" front lip.

This post has been edited by SwissFerdi: Apr 3, 2011 - 9:51 PM

[whatthe]

Mad as sleeper, cool lip too.

This post has been edited by whatthe: Apr 3, 2011 - 10:50 PM

[lagos]

very impressive work! Now just get some nice wheels for it and you'll be all set!

[CoreyST]

I really like this celica, and the lip doesn't look all that bad for what it is. Great job on the car. How does it run?

[TRD11]

thanks guys ,,,,, it runs like **** now but im going to get a mr2 map because the stock 5sfe map only reads 5 psi then falls on its face ,,, but im going to get rid of the 12.1 fmu and get a safcII ... and get some 460cc rx7 injectors then i can tune her ,,,,,,,,, i need some suggestions on wheels HELP ????????

[NGHTKD]

rota torque with a tough offset or black XXR BBS LM replicas

any updates?

[Supersprynt]

I wouldn't get the bumper.

[mak5603]

You've brought that car a long way, nice work. Can't wait to see what else you do with it!

[KALLusion]

good choice of rims, they will go good with the front bumper. I have not seen that bumper before, its clean looking.

[NGHTKD]

as you've probably heard with that bumper, looks great, no many people have it but by ALL COUNTS its an absolute pig to fit / poor fitment

[Needles]

hey that engine looks NICE !!! i love the color and how its end up , this one is of the most beautiful engine i ever seen (im jalous lol )

[whatthe]

So sexy. Please make a video.

[TRD11]

lol yea its hard to keep clean for a daily ....... my next project is to relocate the alternator down were my ac compressor was so that i put an air filter on ..... i only have a metal screen on it now

[Ted95]

great work so far man, im impressed! those wheels will look sick too, esp if you run that tire setup too lol

[PolliS_5S-FE]

thanks guys ,,,,, it runs like **** now but im going to get a mr2 map because the stock 5sfe map only reads 5 psi then falls on its face ,,, but im going to get rid of the 12.1 fmu and get a safcII ... and get some 460cc rx7 injectors then i can tune her ,,,,,,,,, i need some suggestions on wheels HELP ????????

that is a f***n nice looking car man. Looked at it several times now . so technically up to 5psi you could stick with 5sfe map?

[KAOS]

Wow what a beautiful build... you make the 5S owners proud!

[NYp8tBaller07]

I really love the front, looks very nice

[TRD11]

R.I.P to the 5sfe................. only has 5 psi oil pressure on the stock engine ///////// now its time for a full build motor

[PolliS_5S-FE]

Is it dead!?

[NGHTKD]

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Keep us updated!

This post has been edited by NGHTKD: Jul 5, 2011 - 8:14 AM

[TRD11]

yea i was just cruzin and the one hydraulic lifter stared raping ......lol it still runs but no power .... so ill just build a stock motor for now to get it on the road ... then ill get building on my new motor witch i do not no what im going to do yet ........ any suggestions !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! any one ...................

[NGHTKD]

yea i was just cruzin and the one hydraulic lifter stared raping ......lol it still runs but no power .... so ill just build a stock motor for now to get it on the road ... then ill get building on my new motor witch i do not no what im going to do yet ........ any suggestions !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! any one ...................

If your looking for 300whp just do a basic bottom end rebuild or buy a gen2-3 3SGTE + boltons. But considering you have all turbo parts, I'd recommend forged 5SFTE.

This post has been edited by NGHTKD: Jul 5, 2011 - 8:18 AM

[PolliS_5S-FE]

yea i was just cruzin and the one hydraulic lifter stared raping ......lol it still runs but no power .... so ill just build a stock motor for now to get it on the road ... then ill get building on my new motor witch i do not no what im going to do yet ........ any suggestions !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! any one ...................

Depends if you want to stay with 5SFTE or go 3SGTE, I chose 5SFTE. How much power are you looking at making?

If your looking for 300whp just do a basic bottom end rebuild or buy a gen2-3 3SGTE + boltons. But considering you have all turbo parts, I'd recommend forged 5SFTE.

X2 go for 5sFTE, theres so many 3s around... + im gonna be doing 5sfte SOMEtime down the track hopefully sooooo... more documentation for me

or possibly 5sgte

[TRD11]

well im looking to be around 300 whp .... im thinking of using the 5sfe block with the 3SGTE head as if its not 2 hard 2 du

[NGHTKD]

for 300whp stick with 5SFTE!

if i was going 500whp + then id go 5SGTE (5s block, 3s head)

[TRD11]

i need h beam rods for a 5sfe and i cant find any ............only for the turbo mr2 3SGTE can any one hook me up with a link ,,,,, need help

[TRD11]

i found rods for a 5sfe ..... mr2 .. but are they the same block !!!!!!!!!!!?????????

This post has been edited by TRD11: Jul 29, 2011 - 4:56 PM

[TRD11]

well ......... my oil gauge was going bad and the the head got quiet so im stiil driving it haha ... it is runing great but ...... i got a new gauge and when the car is warmed up and driving it goes to 40 psi .. and when it idles its 10 psi can anyone tell me if it is normal or not

[al94st]

3 post to 2 post spoiler modification looks cool, nice work

[SwissFerdi]

Don't buy Rotas. Good luck with the engine though, hope you get that figured out soon. Downtime sucks.

This post has been edited by SwissFerdi: Nov 12, 2011 - 12:38 PM

[TRD11]

well when i first got the car there was a big 1/12 hole in the dash pad ....... dumb ass kids ....... lets drill a hole in the dash for gauges i would like to round house there face





This post has been edited by TRD11: Nov 20, 2011 - 7:03 PM

[TRD11]

now it comes to this 6 hours of dam labor lol \\ old one coming out






fresh

pulled it out of a 99




installing


got new gauge over lays .... bad ass they glow white





moved my 3 gauges






and new steering wheal i got for 30 bucks lol and the dash pad i got for 13 bucks



This post has been edited by TRD11: Nov 20, 2011 - 7:15 PM

[TRD11]

and my dirty ass engine bay i did not clean in a wile ...... snow sucks







got my new rear window visor today ,,,,,,,, putting it on tomorrow






This post has been edited by TRD11: Nov 23, 2011 - 8:44 PM

[Bimbo]

I like the the lip you have on but the bumper you are considering looks awesome, it all depends like they say that the fitment is crazy bad. For the wheels I really like the oem you have, always liked five star wheels. Also like the pontiac grand am GT emblem you put in the back of the car.

[BonzaiCelica]

nice pick up on the dash and steering wheel. Ya I now what you mean, pain in the ass to remove the dash. good job!

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Nov 22, 2011 - 3:13 AM

[TRD11]

I like the the lip you have on but the bumper you are considering looks awesome, it all depends like they say that the fitment is crazy bad. For the wheels I really like the oem you have, always liked five star wheels. Also like the pontiac grand am GT emblem you put in the back of the car.

lol yea not to many people no the gt emblem is off a grand am haha ,,,

nice pick up on the dash and steering wheel. Ya I now what you mean, pain in the ass to remove the dash. good job!

haha yea its a bitch

[Bimbo]

LOL. I new about the emblem because my first car was a 1993 pontiac grand am GT and I bought that same emblem. My first bike was a GT Performer, first car Grand am GT and I hope soon I'll be a proud owner of a GT 6gc. But still havent found one for a good price and in good condition here in Florida.

[ricochet1490]

well ......... my oil gauge was going bad and the the head got quiet so im stiil driving it haha ... it is runing great but ...... i got a new gauge and when the car is warmed up and driving it goes to 40 psi .. and when it idles its 10 psi can anyone tell me if it is normal or not

It's fine. This thread has his numbers, plus a couple links on page three for oil pressure.
http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showto...81058&st=40

[kurt95gt]

Yea just like my thread shows that's normal
I was worried to but if your tapped into the same place as me
its a return line so the psi reads lower than you would think
atleast that was my understanding from what I read in the links

[TRD11]

well ......... my oil gauge was going bad and the the head got quiet so im stiil driving it haha ... it is runing great but ...... i got a new gauge and when the car is warmed up and driving it goes to 40 psi .. and when it idles its 10 psi can anyone tell me if it is normal or not

It's fine. This thread has his numbers, plus a couple links on page three for oil pressure.
http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showto...81058&st=40

thanks

[TRD11]

Yea just like my thread shows that's normal
I was worried to but if your tapped into the same place as me
its a return line so the psi reads lower than you would think
atleast that was my understanding from what I read in the links

well i got my line feeding off of the front right of the head witch is the main oil pressure out lit ............

[kurt95gt]

yea same spot

[mrmatt]

beautiful car man i love it.

[TRD11]

beautiful car man i love it.

thanks man

[TRD11]

my new visor









This post has been edited by TRD11: Nov 24, 2011 - 7:47 PM

[TRD11]

clean bay






This post has been edited by TRD11: Nov 29, 2011 - 9:25 PM

[Ted95]

looks cleann man i like the new setup. those black and red fittings look pretty sweet too.

[TRD11]

well got some good and bad news haha ....... the car is running that good 0n 7psi my stock clutch keeps slipping ... making hp now .... bad news is i need to chance it

This post has been edited by TRD11: Nov 28, 2011 - 9:53 PM

[NYp8tBaller07]

beautiful build my man, love the sticker XD

[TRD11]

well got some good and bad news haha ....... the car is running that good 0n 7psi my stock clutch keeps slipping ... making hp now .... bad news is i need to chance it

ordered my new clutch kit xtd . i no its not the best but it will hold me over until the new build 170 buck handles 307 hp and 285 tq ... well that's what they say ? i guess ill find out



This post has been edited by TRD11: Dec 6, 2011 - 6:51 PM

[kurt95gt]

Only ebay brand clutch ill use they've worked great for me

[TRD11]

new 7gen short sifter on the way ....



This post has been edited by TRD11: Dec 2, 2011 - 10:53 PM

[TRD11]

ripped the tranny out today

yeap junk the spring are loose as s h i t ......... and sliped a couple times lol



tranny is cruddy



cleaned her up



This post has been edited by TRD11: Dec 3, 2011 - 3:20 PM

[TRD11]

im sad down time



This post has been edited by TRD11: Dec 3, 2011 - 6:29 PM

[NYp8tBaller07]

is that a crack I see in the weld?

[TRD11]

is that a crack I see in the weld?

yea i got these clamps off a 2001 corvette and they don't get tite so i welded it because it cept sliding off and it crack the first time lol ... but im going to get v band flanges and swap it out

[TRD11]

got it today

[TRD11]

this clutch is a peace of **** ....... xtd crap slips worse than my stock one

This post has been edited by TRD11: Dec 11, 2011 - 7:06 PM

[kurt95gt]

wow that's surprising to hear

[TRD11]

wow that's surprising to hear

yea i cant beleave it my self

[PolliS_5S-FE]

REFUND!!

[TRD11]

REFUND!!

got that right

[UndecidedPC9397]

this is a beautifully done Celica. Your celica may be one of the few reasons I tune up my celica. I have a couple questions I would really appreciate it ifI could get answers to.
With the exterior and astetics, where did you get those eye lids and front lip? and what car is that steering wheel off of?
And with the engine, is the head the stock 5sfe? and if so, how much boost are you running with that setup? if its the 3s, how do you get it to bolt up? this is definetly a noob question I know but how does that exhaust system work? Cuz I dont see headers running down under the block but theres still a muffler.
And how much of a drop in suspension is that to obtail that flush fit? I might turbo my stock engine and get 200-250HP just off my stock setup (5SFE, auto trans) but ill start off with basic greddy exhaust and a better intake from weapon r

This post has been edited by UndecidedPC9397: Dec 17, 2011 - 10:31 PM

[TRD11]

THANKS MAN ..... WELL I MADE THE EYE LIDS WITH JUST STICKER VINYL ,, IT TOOK A COUPLE TIMES OF MESSING UP LOL . I GOT THE STEERING WHEEL OUT OF A 99 CELICA THAT WAS AT A JUNK YARD BUT IM NOT SURE IF IT WAS THE ORIGINAL ONE .... I HAVE A STOCK 5SFE HEAD WITH 5 POUNDS NOW ... WITH A 3S TURBO MANIFOLD WHICH BOLTS RIGHT ON ... THE EXHAUST IS SIMPLE THERE IS ONLY ONE PIPE THAT YOU WILL HAVE TO MAKE COMING FROM THE TURBO TO THE BACK OF THE OIL PAN .. AND ALL THE REST COULD BE STOCK IF YOU WOULD LIKE ... .... I GOT CHEAP EBAY COIL OVER THEY WERE LIKE 50 BUCKS ,,,,, THEY GAVE ME A 3 INCH DROP ...... WELL WITH THE INTAKE DON'T WASTE YOUR MONEY BECAUSE YOU WILL NEED TO FAB ONE UP AFTER YOU BOOST IT ... IF YOU LOOK AT MY ENGINE PICS I DON'T HAVE ONE ON MY ALTERNATOR IS IN THE WAY ........... BUT YEA ANY WAY YOUR MAP SENOR WONT ALLOW MORE THAN 5 PSI .. AND IF IT DOES THE CAR WILL BUCK LIKE CRAZY .... WELL THANKS AGAIN FOR YOUR POSITIVE COMMENT .. ANY MORE QUESTIONS HIT ME UP


HEAR IS I PIC OF MY DOWN PIPE



This post has been edited by TRD11: Dec 18, 2011 - 9:17 AM

[TRD11]

MY FRONT LIP ,,,,,, WAllMART GARDEN CENTER



This post has been edited by TRD11: Dec 31, 2011 - 8:34 AM

[TRD11]

GOT NEW SNOW TIRES ,,, PIC OF A OLD TIRE LOL CAMBER IS OFF A BIT HAHAHA



This post has been edited by TRD11: Dec 18, 2011 - 9:37 AM

[Mani]

man those tyres are suicidal.....beautiful lookin celi tough

[UndecidedPC9397]

Thanks for the responce, and its a really nice turn even if that lip is from the garden center lol I was surprised to hear its only that lol But I may have to ask a bit more but thats the most detailed and straight foward info ive gotten from any forum I think lol So thank you so much for telling me about this awesome setup, I dont know if ill boost right away but if I do, im thinking this design with that boost would put out about the numbers I want. What are the numbers on this?

[TRD11]

Thanks for the responce, and its a really nice turn even if that lip is from the garden center lol I was surprised to hear its only that lol But I may have to ask a bit more but thats the most detailed and straight foward info ive gotten from any forum I think lol So thank you so much for telling me about this awesome setup, I dont know if ill boost right away but if I do, im thinking this design with that boost would put out about the numbers I want. What are the numbers on this?

yeap no problem ......... im puting down around 200 hp give or take ... and soon im going to build a 5sfe that will be around 300hp .. eagle rods .. arp head studs ... ill put it on 15 psi then

This post has been edited by TRD11: Dec 20, 2011 - 7:14 AM

[SwissFerdi]

FWIW, stock GT piping is 2"? Fairly sure a turbo would like 2.5".

[TRD11]

FWIW, stock GT piping is 2"? Fairly sure a turbo would like 2.5".

yea its the only way to go

[Ted95]

FWIW, stock GT piping is 2"? Fairly sure a turbo would like 2.5".

yea its the only way to go

3" tends to be a better option once you get up into the 300hp range, it will flow much better. or you can get a 3" cutout thats what i did, sounds amazingggg

[TRD11]

FWIW, stock GT piping is 2"? Fairly sure a turbo would like 2.5".

yea its the only way to go

3" tends to be a better option once you get up into the 300hp range, it will flow much better. or you can get a 3" cutout thats what i did, sounds amazingggg

thats going to be my next project .... going to put a stock exhaust ... like original ... because it my daily ....... and then put a cut out on ..... right out side of the fender

it will be a bad ass sleeper

[UndecidedPC9397]

[/quote]

thats going to be my next project .... going to put a stock exhaust ... like original ... because it my daily ....... and then put a cut out on ..... right out side of the fender

it will be a bad ass sleeper


[/quote]

Daamn were gonna need sound clips of that!

[UndecidedPC9397]

Oh, and what are you lowered on and how much?

[TRD11]

Oh, and what are you lowered on and how much?

ebay coil overs 50 bucks lol gave me a 3 inch drop

[TRD11]

by the way i got my short sifter ...... and hated it .. .. i drove it for 2 days and i put the stock one back in ......... reasons/////// whas to close to e brake and shifted to hard for a daily /////////// gets annoying

This post has been edited by TRD11: Dec 31, 2011 - 8:42 AM

[FortuneCookie]

Yeah. I hate them too. You're better off with the TRD 'quick' shifter. ACT clutch disc also has a quick clutch engagement. Engages smoothly as well.

[UndecidedPC9397]

Oh, and what are you lowered on and how much?

ebay coil overs 50 bucks lol gave me a 3 inch drop

Probably a weird question, but do they make athe ride alot smoother compared to the stock suspension? and do you know what brand those are?

[RabidTRD]

by the way i got my short sifter ...... and hated it .. .. i drove it for 2 days and i put the stock one back in ......... reasons/////// whas to close to e brake and shifted to hard for a daily /////////// gets annoying

I hate short shifters. It doesn't feel smooth, it feels clunky and awkward like it's not on right. The stock one is shorter than any car I've ever driven that was stick, so it's fine for me. I'd agree with that 100%

Oh, and what are you lowered on and how much?

ebay coil overs 50 bucks lol gave me a 3 inch drop

Probably a weird question, but do they make athe ride alot smoother compared to the stock suspension? and do you know what brand those are?

Piece of advice, eBay coilovers are a terrible decision. They rattle, die fast, and don't hold their level well. If you want smooth, get a real strut/shock setup like mine or spend the big bucks for the real coilovers. Not the kind that rattle and go over your existing struts.

This post has been edited by RabidTRD: Dec 31, 2011 - 5:02 PM

[TRD11]

by the way i got my short sifter ...... and hated it .. .. i drove it for 2 days and i put the stock one back in ......... reasons/////// whas to close to e brake and shifted to hard for a daily /////////// gets annoying

I hate short shifters. It doesn't feel smooth, it feels clunky and awkward like it's not on right. The stock one is shorter than any car I've ever driven that was stick, so it's fine for me. I'd agree with that 100%

Oh, and what are you lowered on and how much?

ebay coil overs 50 bucks lol gave me a 3 inch drop

Probably a weird question, but do they make athe ride alot smoother compared to the stock suspension? and do you know what brand those are?

Piece of advice, eBay coilovers are a terrible decision. They rattle, die fast, and don't hold their level well. If you want smooth, get a real strut/shock setup like mine or spend the big bucks for the real coilovers. Not the kind that rattle and go over your existing struts.

yea when they come new they ride like **** ..... but .. after 6 months they get softer and there not a bad ride .... i put new kyb struts on and i have no complaint other than i want it a little lower............... you get what you pay for ...... lol

This post has been edited by TRD11: Jan 8, 2012 - 10:42 AM

[TRD11]

well it whas fun wile it lasted ....... turning the celly back to NA ... all i can say is that theirs a little one on the way lol i dont have the funds to keep it boosted ...... gas is crazzy right now and i need something that is 100% reliable ,,,,,, im still keeping it slammed and going to order my xxr527 soon so its going to be bad ass looking but wont have the motor to back it up lol

[dakotahwyatt]

well it whas fun wile it lasted ....... turning the celly back to NA ... all i can say is that theirs a little one on the way lol i dont have the funds to keep it boosted ...... gas is crazzy right now and i need something that is 100% reliable ,,,,,, im still keeping it slammed and going to order my xxr527 soon so its going to be bad ass looking but wont have the motor to back it up lol

Well I bet it was fun when it was boosted Congrats on the little one

[mandrek]

how did you fit that? i see that it is a bit farther back in (to clear the deeper bezzle on the AEM gauge). i got the same single DIN holder and an AEM temp gauge, but am having some issues fitting it. and how did you fasten it to the sterio brackets/frame?

thank you.

[TRD11]

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This post has been edited by TRD11: Apr 8, 2012 - 8:57 AM

[KAOS]

So are the gauges facing the wrong way then? Looks like they're angled towards the passenger rather than the driver...

???

[mandrek]

how did you fit that? i see that it is a bit farther back in (to clear the deeper bezzle on the AEM gauge). i got the same single DIN holder and an AEM temp gauge, but am having some issues fitting it. and how did you fasten it to the sterio brackets/frame?

thank you.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/52mm-UNIVERSAL-TRI...997153955435086

how did you fit that? i see that it is a bit farther back in (to clear the deeper bezzle on the AEM gauge). i got the same single DIN holder and an AEM temp gauge, but am having some issues fitting it. and how did you fasten it to the sterio brackets/frame?

thank you.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/52mm-UNIVERSAL-TRI...997153955435086

i just fliped this to get it to fit the celly

? fliped it? but i do not see how that would allow for the plate to fit.. the issue i am having is that it is too long, and if mounted the way it supposed to be, the AEM bezzle inter fears with the trim to mount back on the correct way.


#gonna go and take a pic of what im having issues with brb.


This post has been edited by mandrek: Feb 6, 2012 - 8:26 PM

[TRD11]

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This post has been edited by TRD11: Apr 7, 2012 - 6:30 PM

[TRD11]

just remembered the only reason it fits in my car is that i made my own mounts for the radio so that it sits higher

[TRD11]

a couple thinks i did different //////// new kyb struts ////// took the turbo off ///// full stock exhaust ///// new rims /// euro style tow hook







This post has been edited by TRD11: Apr 8, 2012 - 8:58 AM

[SwissFerdi]

Why took turbo off? Those wheels look great. Specs?

This post has been edited by SwissFerdi: Apr 8, 2012 - 11:25 AM

[kurt95gt]

Hes got a baby on the way so i think it was a reliability thing

[TRD11]

yea going to have a baby shortly /////////// the rim brand are Effect Wheels // 17 inch by 7 wide 40 mm off set ... they are a cheep rim but they still look better than stock lol

[Tigawoods]

you going to come out to the TST spring meet? it would be nice to see a handful of celicas there