Best Motoring!!, for you MR2 and 6gc fanatics Options

[BonzaiCelica]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=li_hqRU05U0...ture=plpp_videoMR2 and Celica GT4 quarter miles

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsRRWI_KRWM...feature=related MR2 and ST205 Tuned Battle on Tsukuba

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTDaCoK5DxY...feature=related MR2 turbo Rev 3 on Gansai Touge and Tsukuba

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHf6IUS5TyE...feature=related MR2 Turbo Rev 2 vs MR2 Rev 3

MR2 Turbo Review Part 1 and 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9N8GFQSbqHg...feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ti0DZ5g0zak...feature=related

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Dec 22, 2011 - 4:14 AM

[808celica]

LOL was watching ALL of those vids like 2 days ago

[BonzaiCelica]

Gran Turismo moments :

A lot of Toyota's racing : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gk5kTx8HemU...feature=related


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leh25hl9S_M

SS-III with P.W.R. of 6.05 and Integra with P.W.R. 5.60 and MR2 G-Limited. Integra has a 200lb advantage.

The SS-III has all the same tire and wheel combination, suspension components (sway bars, struts and springs) and brakes as the 1994 SS-II. All Toyota did, was add Helical LSD, installed Recaro seats and new engine for 98-99 SS-III model.

So its basically the same thing as if Honda were to put a Type R engine in a GSR chassis without making it lighter and tuning the suspension and brakes.

Additionally the SS-III came with GPS Navigation, Audio system and Air Conditioning. Subtract Auto Climate A/C = 120,000 yen and Navigation n Sound System = 400,000 yen and Total Cost = 1,920,000 Yen.



Cost of Integra Type R 98 Spec = 2,358,000 yen. So the Celica is cheaper by 438,000 yen = $3,900!


This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Aug 12, 2018 - 2:29 PM

[richee3]

Despite the power difference, I'm surprised that the SS-III left the Miata that far behind. Superstrut must be a lot better through the corners than I give it credit for.

[BonzaiCelica]

Despite the power difference, I'm surprised that the SS-III left the Miata that far behind. Superstrut must be a lot better through the corners than I give it credit for.

great battle between the miata and z3!

the miata??? you mean the DC2

MR2 GT-S Rev 2 owns several cars on 400mm battle http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfamIiY3W-Y...feature=related

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Dec 23, 2011 - 5:32 AM

[Hanyo]

Despite the power difference, I'm surprised that the SS-III left the Miata that far behind. Superstrut must be a lot better through the corners than I give it credit for.

It also has alot to do with the track also. The Tsukuba Circuit has alot of hair pin turns where you brake all the way down to first and second gear and accelerate. When most of the turns are like that horsepower really matters. The miata only had 140hp where as the ss111 has around 200 and way more torque. If there was more high speed turns the miata would have stood a better chance. With that said the miata is never a real sports car, its more of a "fun to drive car". You can see the how the race car drivers in that video where laughing the entire time.

[BonzaiCelica]

GT-Four WRC getting worked... gtfour is too heavy and wow that lancer is so lightweight. lighter than our ST202 celica's haha.
superperb brakes and superstrut handling around the touge. they also see which car is the fastest awd around the dirt track!

just type in セリカGTFOUR SS1 in the search bar on youtube. then type セリカGTFOUR SS2, セリカGTFOUR SS3, セリカGTFOUR SS4, セリカGTFOUR SS5.

you'll see the complete review of the 1994 Toyota GT4 WRC edition. with quarter mile races handling aspects and braking as well.

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Dec 28, 2011 - 9:44 PM

[BonzaiCelica]

just looked up the specs of the DC2 type R and it has a full Stainless Steel Exhaust System and aluminum block, which makes it that much lighter...

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Nov 26, 2013 - 12:20 AM

[BonzaiCelica]

this video was deleted nooooo

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Dec 2, 2017 - 4:08 AM

[BonzaiCelica]

first best motoring/hot version video. tshuchiya is so young

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzEYySvB89w

[BonzaiCelica]

cool video to see how each car manufacture creates the engine power all with different approaches.
wow i didn't know mitsubishi made such a high revving 1.6 litre

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbC0w2tSn1A

[BonzaiCelica]

mrs vs 3rd gen miata

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4uFK8cOaBE

[BonzaiCelica]

despite the 100kg weight advantage type r has with its race bred chassis. celica actually did pretty good again

look from 25:40 - 26:45

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRJudN_s59k

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Jan 12, 2014 - 6:56 PM

[BonzaiCelica]

95 Spec MR2 G-Limited vs Integra Si-R both with 180ps but MR2 weighs 200lbs more. as the integra steals a faster lap time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTiXnCFT9cY


weight of integra taken from below, and mr2 g-limited weighs same as the 98 spec with beams motor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mqZKZVQbxY

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Feb 25, 2017 - 5:27 AM

[njccmd2002]

See you like to bump a lot....

[BonzaiCelica]

98 Spec MR2 G-Limited with Coilovers and 16" rims (track set up) vs Integra Type R weighing 200lbs less.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuDjjBbdKYg

2000 Celica SS-II with P.W.R. 6.00 vs Civic Type R. Civic weighs 160lbs less. However handling and braking are near identical
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpQ4KhUY814&t=182s

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Feb 25, 2017 - 6:07 AM

[BonzaiCelica]

TRD Altezza (street tune) RS200 losing to a ITR (400 lbs weight difference)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpQ4KhUY814

S2000 spoon vs Altezza TRD, both are N1 spec chassis. S2K has 10hp more n' weighs 66lbs less. However Altezza lapped track by half a sec faster.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lk8ocl0JER0...hgEf8BMwZGsaC25

TRD Altezza Race spec engine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DbtM7Fewos

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Oct 24, 2024 - 4:34 PM

[BonzaiCelica]

AE101 Corolla Levin vs EG6 Civic Si-R. Although AE101 weighs 60kg more and has 10 less hp. it manages to lap the track with same time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibXKPpbCwCE

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Feb 25, 2017 - 5:32 AM

[njccmd2002]

You must get something back from the magazine. Nice vids tho

[BonzaiCelica]

naw just an Toyota enthusiast sharing the toyo love.

[BonzaiCelica]

there's an MR-S turbo 1zzfe vs MRS 2zz swap in here and eg6 vs mrs techno spirit 2zzge

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGx6zQ-R97k

[BonzaiCelica]

Tuned MR2 vs Integra and Silvia. Larger wheels n tires has allowed MR2 to gain .3 sec on lap time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=innox_BJx2Q

Tuned battle, AE111 only has full TRD Exhaust, while ITR lost more weight and Civic has swapped ITR motor w/ extreme weight reduction.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1TBhbcUR6Y

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Feb 25, 2017 - 5:45 AM

[BonzaiCelica]

ST205 Celica @ 1390kg with standard big brakes vs Subaru Impreza WRX @ 1250kg with 5 more hp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jx18h480MeU

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Feb 25, 2017 - 3:34 AM

[BonzaiCelica]

For you 5th gen fans

https://youtu.be/IBbICSqQUKI

[BonzaiCelica]

MR-S clocked the fast sector time on Part 5 of these videos, but looses elsewhere because of power. A stock 2zz motor while the J'S racing has build F20C. MRS weighs 880kg and J's racing is about 940kg (I say about because a 2004 S2K tuners video on best motoring listed the S2K J's racing with 2.2litre weighing in a 940kg. With some internal work MRS, would of came out as 2014 touge champion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XTmsAWrvUo

Tuned 98 spec MR2 G-Limited beams, with upgraded coilovers and larger wheels.... while the MR2 has coilover set up, the Integra still weighs 200lbs less.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuDjjBbdKYg

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Feb 26, 2017 - 4:32 AM

[BonzaiCelica]

Levin GT-Z (supercharged) vs Levin vs Civic (Boss Tune)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_fBJo7CNuA

Tuned 96 AE111 Corolla with ST205 Front brakes!! vs Mirage (Autech) vs Civic SIR EK4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGoQBhOTWMU

Stock AE111 Corolla 5 speed vs 96 Civic Si-R with same lap times
in same video, tuned AE111 vs EG6. again same lap times
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2eW-nsAoak

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Feb 25, 2017 - 5:43 AM

[BonzaiCelica]

Celica finishing 1st place in GT300 class. Note : GT500 vehicle were also in this race. not sure which vehicles were also in the GT300 class
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-32-L6fH7I&t=238s

247 hp Altezza Time Attack: it out brakes the s2000 and keeps up with rx7 in turns
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGUSsg8dAII

Corolla BZR AE111 tuned with P.W.R. 5.57 and Civic Spoon with 1.8L 205ps. Both AE111 & EG6 weigh the same. 96 spec ITR with P.W.R. of 5.30 and is roughly 50kg heavier than AE111
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSLFNuQZ6aY

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Mar 5, 2017 - 1:49 AM

[BonzaiCelica]

the celebrity pro race. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUAWa73l4p8

[BonzaiCelica]

bump

[njccmd2002]

bump

[BonzaiCelica]

bump. added info on Celica SS-III vs DC2 cost, on the first page.

and bump because nostalgic videos

[BonzaiCelica]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MJ72S7wazo

2000 Celica TRD Sport M = 255 mil Yen

2000 Integra Type R = 251 mil yen and integra is only 45 lbs lighter.

ZZT231 chassis is good, but the 2zz mehhh THE TRD WHEELS IN THE BEST Motoring video are one pound lighter per wheel over the DC2. a review by the guy PerformanceCars (youtube) said that engine drops out of lift when shifting at 8,000 rpm haha what a joke.

the SS-III was $1,000 cheaper than Sports M and still faster around track. how! (the value of yen didnt change from Oct 97-Oct 99)

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Aug 26, 2018 - 2:48 PM

[BonzaiCelica]

i find it weird how Best Motoring reviewed a TRD Altezza, several Tom's n TRD Corolla AE111, Tuned ST205 and a tuned version of the 98 MR2 G Limited, but no where did they do a tuned Celica SS-III...

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Oct 1, 2020 - 3:08 AM

[Bitter]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MJ72S7wazo

2000 Celica TRD Sport M = 255 mil Yen

2000 Integra Type R = 251 mil yen and integra is only 45 lbs lighter.

ZZT231 chassis is good, but the 2zz mehhh THE TRD WHEELS IN THE BEST Motoring video are one pound lighter per wheel over the DC2. a review by the guy PerformanceCars (youtube) said that engine drops out of lift when shifting at 8,000 rpm haha what a joke.

the SS-III was $1,000 cheaper than Sports M and still faster around track. how! (the value of yen didnt change from Oct 97-Oct 99)

That's why you're supposed to shift nearer to fuel cut at 8250 (or 8500 more likely in Japan) and it'll land at the start of lift in 2nd gear for 1-2 lift good-ness. And while the TRD wheels might have been a lb lighter than the DC2 they're way way heavier than the stock 16" wheels are which is a huge harm to the torque limited 2ZZ at lower engine speeds.

[BonzaiCelica]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MJ72S7wazo

2000 Celica TRD Sport M = 255 mil Yen

2000 Integra Type R = 251 mil yen and integra is only 45 lbs lighter.

ZZT231 chassis is good, but the 2zz mehhh THE TRD WHEELS IN THE BEST Motoring video are one pound lighter per wheel over the DC2. a review by the guy PerformanceCars (youtube) said that engine drops out of lift when shifting at 8,000 rpm haha what a joke.

the SS-III was $1,000 cheaper than Sports M and still faster around track. how! (the value of yen didnt change from Oct 97-Oct 99)

That's why you're supposed to shift nearer to fuel cut at 8250 (or 8500 more likely in Japan) and it'll land at the start of lift in 2nd gear for 1-2 lift good-ness. And while the TRD wheels might have been a lb lighter than the DC2 they're way way heavier than the stock 16" wheels are which is a huge harm to the torque limited 2ZZ at lower engine speeds.

no your wrong. the 2zz has such a narrow power band compared to the B18 and 3SGE vvti motors. Which makes it inferior to the 3sge redtop and blacktop motors. since toyota knew this, they should of put a 4.7 final drive on it or made each gear closer.

[Bitter]

A 4.7 FD would have given some ludicrous highway cruise RPM LOL! I stand with the 2ZZ and say it's a great engine with a lot of untapped performance that's been overlooked. The 7th gen was just so polarizing!