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post Aug 4, 2013 - 10:37 PM
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post Aug 4, 2013 - 10:43 PM
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Looks all, virtual. redface.gif


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post Aug 4, 2013 - 11:16 PM
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Won't happen, at least not factory turbo. Could likely be a "TRD" varient for Subaru where it gets a lip kit, stiffer springs, and a sports exhaust.


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post Aug 4, 2013 - 11:22 PM
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It already exists. Its called the Hyundai Genesis Turbo Coupe.

But if a BRZ with an STI motor would be kind of awesome.


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post Aug 5, 2013 - 2:44 AM
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QUOTE (lagos @ Aug 4, 2013 - 11:22 PM) *
It already exists. Its called the Hyundai Genesis Turbo Coupe.

But if a BRZ with an STI motor would be kind of awesome.

The Genesis is kind of on the chunky side though.


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post Aug 5, 2013 - 6:21 AM
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QUOTE (95CelicaST @ Aug 5, 2013 - 12:16 AM) *
Won't happen, at least not factory turbo. Could likely be a "TRD" varient for Subaru where it gets a lip kit, stiffer springs, and a sports exhaust.

you just dont want it to happen


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post Aug 5, 2013 - 7:21 AM
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QUOTE (lagos @ Aug 5, 2013 - 12:22 AM) *
It already exists. Its called the Hyundai Genesis Turbo Coupe.


You mean the one that's **** to drive and doesn't dynamically compare to the FR-S?


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post Aug 5, 2013 - 7:42 AM
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QUOTE (Tigawoods @ Aug 5, 2013 - 4:21 AM) *
QUOTE (95CelicaST @ Aug 5, 2013 - 12:16 AM) *
Won't happen, at least not factory turbo. Could likely be a "TRD" varient for Subaru where it gets a lip kit, stiffer springs, and a sports exhaust.

you just dont want it to happen


No I'd like to see it happen, I just know that it won't be turbo (or if it is, it will be the 1.6L turbo). It definitely won't be any EJ series motor. Subaru has already moved away from it. Imprezas, Foresters, and Legacys that are turbo are all FA20DIT. Mine is already there in terms of performance, and likely all still under what the "STI" would cost. More varients, more parts for me. A win-win.


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post Aug 5, 2013 - 8:57 AM
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BRZ Article

If you're all into the rumour mill, this article has read a bit into the file naming structure tongue.gif


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post Aug 5, 2013 - 9:50 AM
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The STi Team are releasing a tS (Tuned STi) model. It's a mild tune and performance suspension setup. No factory turbo.


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post Aug 5, 2013 - 8:48 PM
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http://www.7tune.com/news-the-facts-about-...sti-ts-version/

So the "sti" gets better brakes, badges, and a huge wing. As if 27k wasn't bad enough for 140rwtq, now its 41k laugh.gif

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post Aug 7, 2013 - 3:05 PM
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I've always stressed it to my friends that Toyota and Subaru should've made a TRD/STI version with AWD 2.0T. That would've replaced the all tracs. Lol.


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QUOTE (ILoveMySilly97 @ Aug 7, 2013 - 3:05 PM) *
I've always stressed it to my friends that Toyota and Subaru should've made a TRD/STI version with AWD 2.0T. That would've replaced the all tracs. Lol.

They have the technology. redface.gif


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post Aug 8, 2013 - 10:13 AM
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QUOTE (95CelicaST @ Aug 5, 2013 - 12:16 AM) *
Won't happen, at least not factory turbo. Could likely be a "TRD" varient for Subaru where it gets a lip kit, stiffer springs, and a sports exhaust.



There's an article somewhere (if I find it I'll post it) that specifies that it's the new Subaru BRZ tS version which was shown recently at a car show badged with STi everywhere as well as tS.

The upgrades are Bilstein struts, stiffer springs, Brembo brakes, Recaro seats and some other premium stuff. Nothing powertrain-related was mentioned.


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post Aug 10, 2013 - 9:44 PM
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I'll be honest. I LOVE my FRS but ****, for more money I'd get a 370z or something that'll move! WTF is Toyota/Subaru thinking!?!?! A turbo version would sell wink.gif


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post Aug 10, 2013 - 10:05 PM
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If they could get a turbo version out for 30K or less I think it'd do well. Unless they figure most people are just going to turbo/swap it themselves, so why should they bother. Personally I rather have a factory turbo, than deal with an aftermarket ordeal.


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post Aug 10, 2013 - 10:59 PM
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post Aug 11, 2013 - 12:41 AM
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I really doubt they can make it AWD, look where the engine block sits and look where the front wheels are.


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post Aug 11, 2013 - 1:02 AM
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You know I'm bit skeptic with that. I will not believe till I see it for sale on Subaru's web site smile.gif. I have heard somewhere there is some kind of deal between Toyota and Subaru about BRZ and GT86. There must be sold only one BRZ for 10 GT86s (or maybe even more). I forgot the number. The point is Toyota makes rules. Not Subaru. So why would be Subaru first who introduce turbocharged/supercharged model and not Toyota???


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post Aug 11, 2013 - 1:32 AM
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All I know is Subaru is making them, and Toyota is doing distribution where Subaru doesn't have a foothold. That may be the case in those scenarios, but over here Subaru is well established and how would they control what people decide to buy?


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post Aug 11, 2013 - 6:45 AM
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^ They can't, but then how many Subie dealers do you see vs. Toyota?


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There are approx 6 frs at my local Toyota dealership and 0 at the Subaru dealership.


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post Aug 11, 2013 - 12:49 PM
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No matter whether Subaru wanted to sell more or not (and they do), they can't - they're contractually obligated to provide Toyota 3 cars for each one they get; the BRZ will always have less numbers sold than the 86/FR-S.


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post Aug 11, 2013 - 2:18 PM
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There are quite a few more Toyota dealers over Subaru dealers, at least within my vicinity. Hell, as far as numbers go I'd say Toyota is up there with the domestic brands in dealers around here.


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post Aug 12, 2013 - 1:06 AM
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QUOTE (Box @ Aug 11, 2013 - 8:32 AM) *
All I know is Subaru is making them, and Toyota is doing distribution where Subaru doesn't have a foothold. That may be the case in those scenarios, but over here Subaru is well established and how would they control what people decide to buy?

Just googled few phrases and here it is: http://www.pistonheads.com/doc.asp?c=52&i=28149

Just the end of article: "Restricted supply means waiting lists for new buyers"

So you have choice... wait (till some Toyotas is sold) and some time later having your Subaru or just go to the next door dealership and buy 86 now that is stocked... Everyone say it is "the same car" so why would you do not do that?

Anyway... another interesting reading: http://www.motoring.com.au/news/2013/sport...the-radar-34735


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post Aug 12, 2013 - 1:47 AM
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Hmm... The only thing that makes me want the BRZ more is the Limited which has leather and alcantara interior.


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post Aug 12, 2013 - 3:05 PM
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Toyota owns Subaru. Look it up. At least a portion of it. As well as Toyota owns daihatsu, hino and others...


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Renault owns Nissan, and Fiat owns Chrysler. BMW owns Rolls Royce, and Audi owns Lamborghini. What is the world coming to?

That's ok, the next Ford Mustang may be powered by a turbocharged I4. So who needs a turbo FR-S anyhow? tongue.gif


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post Aug 12, 2013 - 11:02 PM
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the next ford mustang will have a boxer engine, period.


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QUOTE (Box @ Aug 12, 2013 - 3:25 PM) *
That's ok, the next Ford Mustang may be powered by a turbocharged I4.

Again? wink.gif


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Hey, we don't talk about the SVO. tongue.gif


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post Aug 13, 2013 - 10:25 PM
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I had a friend with an SVO. That was a quick car. The next gen Nissan Z car may be powered by a turbo inline 4 as well. I'll be curious to see what happens to FR-S/BRZ sales if the Mustang and Z get turbo four cylinders.


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What is the world coming to... If Nissan wants a 4 cylinder RWD car they need to bring back the Silvia. At least GM has good sense to take what works and keep going with it. I'm surprised they've taken the OHV V8 as far as they have, and they keep pushing it further. The C7 Vette is going to be a marvel of a car. 450 hp & 450 ft lb, gets 17/29, and will hit 60 in under 4 seconds. Where do I trade my soul in?

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QUOTE (Box @ Aug 13, 2013 - 9:32 PM) *
What is the world coming to... If Nissan wants a 4 cylinder RWD car they need to bring back the Silvia. At least GM has good sense to take what works and keep going with it. I'm surprised they've taken the OHV V8 as far as they have, and they keep pushing it further. The C7 Vette is going to be a marvel of a car. 450 hp & 450 ft lb, gets 17/29, and will hit 60 in under 4 seconds. Where do I trade my soul in?


+1, bring back the 240s if they were going to do a I4 turbod.


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Just as I said - no turbo. Suspension and exterior upgrades.

http://carview.yahoo.co.jp/news/newmodel/189948/

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44673


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SUBARU BRZ tS GT PACKAGE

<Major equipments of SUBARU BRZ tS>

-Mechanism-
225/40ZR18 (92Y) tires (Michelin Pilot Super Sport)
STI designed 18-inch x 7 1/2J aluminum wheels (silver)
brembo front 17-inch opposed 4-pot ventilated disc brake with "STI" logo
brembo rear 17-inch opposed 2-pot ventilated disc brake with "STI" logo
STI designed rear suspension link with pillow ball bush (trailing link front, lateral link front inside & rear inside)
STI tuned strut and STI coil springs for front suspension
STI tuned damper and STI coil springs for rear suspension
STI designed flexible tower bar, front
STI designed flexible draw stiffener, front
STI designed large-diameter driveshaft
Exclusively-tuned VDC (Vehicle Dynamics Control)
Exclusively-tuned filter for Sound CreatorŽ*2

-Exterior-
STI designed front under spoiler
STI designed front fender garnish with "STI" logo
Exclusively-made "STI" ornament (front & rear), "tS" ornament (rear)

-Interior-
Exclusively-made front seat with "STI" logo and red stitch
[AlcantaraŽ*3 (gray punching) / leather (gray), "STI" logo, gray stitch, front seat heater, SRS side airbag]
Exclusively-made leather lapped steering wheel (with "STI" ornament and red stitch)
STI designed leather shift knob (manual transmission) / select lever (automatic transmission) with "STI" logo
Exclusively-made speedometer with "STI" logo
Exclusively-made speedometer visor [AlcantaraŽ (black), black stitch]
Carbon tone instrument panel
STI designed push engine switch with "STI" logo (red)
Exclusively-made aluminum side sill plate with "tS" logo
STI designed leather access key cover (red)

-Equipments for GT PACKAGE-
STI designed 18-inch x 7 1/2J aluminum wheels (black)
STI designed dry carbon rear spoiler (2 angle adjustable)
Recaro designed front bucket seat
[AlcantaraŽ (gray punching) / leather (gray), "STI" logo, gray stitch, SRS side airbag]

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According to the Yahoo article it'll be $37,410 for the tS and $43,842 for the tS GT, at that point you're definitely into 370Z, Camaro SS, and 135i territory. My question being why did they add a larger diameter drive-shaft if they didn't increase the power? I suppose that's more for the people that turbo their car themselves.


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post Aug 19, 2013 - 6:29 PM
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lol, that much money for mods i dont want. i keep my car at the regular price...


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