 TMIC vs. FMIC, Which is better? |
 Apr 21, 2004 - 10:22 AM
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I'm getting ready to purchase an ST205 for my ST. But I don't know whether I want to keep the TMIC or convert to a FMIC. The TMIC would keep it more of a sleeper, but I'd want the vented style CF hood to go with. But I kinda want to have a FMIC as well. I'm thinking that which ever way I go, I'll be spending close to the same amount of money in getting a FMIC or a Vented Style CF Hood. Which would you guys recommend?
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Apr 21, 2004 - 10:36 AM
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well the st205 is water and air cooled so it does a MUCH better job than the st185....less heatsoak..so you can use the 205 inercooler, and it will do a good job,..its more a matter of what you want at that point IMO
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Apr 21, 2004 - 10:41 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 27, '04 From Illinois Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Does anyone know where I can find a vented style CF Hood that only weighs 10-20 lbs? My buddy bought a VIS one and it is fiberglass with a Carbon Fiber overlay. It weighs 50 lbs. I don't want anything like that!!!
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Apr 21, 2004 - 12:21 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 15, '04 From United Kingdom Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Difficult choice - depends on many things.
What are your goals in terms of power? The ST205 chargecooler is good for 400 BHP. But it is fairly complicated with pump and radiator etc. If you wanted the nice look of a big front mount - I guess you could get a huge radiator for the chargecooler fluid - it would look exactly the same. |
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Apr 21, 2004 - 12:51 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Feb 10, '03 From Connecticut Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
If u got a vented hood idk if the TMIC would fit correctly.
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Apr 21, 2004 - 3:50 PM
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Enthusiast Joined May 5, '03 From Toronto Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
I though the vented hood is needed to use the TMIC. Has anyone used a TMIC with a stock USDM hood?
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Apr 21, 2004 - 3:55 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 22, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Hot air rises. so if you got TMIC with stock hood, you aint cooling jack. |
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Apr 21, 2004 - 4:13 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 14, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Preach on brother!! |
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Apr 21, 2004 - 4:45 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 10, '03 From Connecticut Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
It'll fit under the stock hood, however, like latin said, u'll get heat soaked.
I put a hood scoop on mine to allow air in when driving and out while sitting. And wow can you see the heat rising outta the scoop. -------------------- |
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Apr 21, 2004 - 9:53 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 27, '04 From Illinois Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Where would the problem be on the Vented hood?
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Apr 21, 2004 - 9:59 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 9, '03 From Utah Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
anyone know pricing on vented hoods. how much to buy a GT4 hood, would it fit right onto a 6gc? How much would it cost to get custom FMIC instead? what are the pricing differences? Particuarly those that have swaped w/o a clip what did you do?
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Apr 22, 2004 - 7:17 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 10, '03 From Connecticut Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
Unless im wrong, the vented hood steeps down further? I would have to see a pic. But with the air to air, you want air going in...thats why i did mine like an alltrac scoop. Ram air.
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Apr 22, 2004 - 7:23 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 24, '03 From Cyprus Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I have a gt4 so here it goes once and for all. The hood thing is merely cosmetic on the GT 4 as the hood has the heat shield material underneath as all cars. So i cant really see how you cant use the oem hood. Yes it gets hotter under the GT4 hood but that's about it. As its water-to-air heat and clean air is not that important as witha FMIC. |
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Apr 23, 2004 - 6:41 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 22, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Hmmmm, i guess turbo tone must have removed his heat shield material. His vent seems to be functional. I was basing my reply by what i saw in his profile. I guess im wrong.
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Apr 29, 2004 - 5:14 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 3, '03 From Cyprus Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i have fmic on my car.. i put fmic becauce my ic radiator was broken in an accident. if you have money to spend some where. spend it down pipe, on boost controller ecu remappin ect.. stock intercoller is very effective on our cars. is your country very hot? if you ll chose one for sure buy an fmic.. more effective then tmic and seems nice.
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Apr 29, 2004 - 11:07 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Mar 21, '04 From united kingdom Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
rubbish, you can easily remove the underbonnet lining and fibreglass shielding and still retain the timing belt snorkel. Thenm the vent is functional directly above the manifold  -------------------- GT4 ST205 79 modifications and rising!!
spec list: http://sox-japoc.co.uk/forum/garage.php?mo..._vehicle&CID=10 |
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Apr 29, 2004 - 12:38 PM
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I concur! This post has been edited by kuya1284: Apr 29, 2004 - 12:39 PM |
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Apr 29, 2004 - 3:46 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 9, '03 From Utah Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Good! I read that and was all depressed cuz I was excited to get the hood for cosmetic and cooling for the TMIC. Glad to hear that it's not a big deal to open that vent up.
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Apr 29, 2004 - 3:51 PM
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Apr 29, 2004 - 3:51 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 21, '04 From united kingdom Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
just remember to retain the 3 studs for the timing belt snorkel
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spec list: http://sox-japoc.co.uk/forum/garage.php?mo..._vehicle&CID=10 |
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Apr 29, 2004 - 5:15 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jul 14, '03 From New Zealand Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Actually that timing belt snorkle isnt functional straight from factory either, theres another plate that blanks it off. I'll find out exactly where it is and get back to yous.
The existing air vent probably doesnt have that much effect on the intercooler itself, but as said before if you have a GT4 definitly make it operational, as it lets a massive amount of heat out of the engine bay. Plus it looks cool when it rains... 
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Apr 29, 2004 - 5:15 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 24, '03 From Cyprus Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Hey hold on here. I did not say i cannot be functional. I was just answering a question regarding the need of a scoop for a tmic and said that the factory does not have it as functional. I will be removing the heat shield material from my gt4 as well. Its much better as the car breaths much better and you can hear the turbo spooling louder. I am only concerned about the heat and any damage that can cause to the hood's paint. btw normal summer temp in my country is 40deg Celc. so you can see why i worry so much about the heat.
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Apr 29, 2004 - 5:19 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 14, '03 From New Zealand Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Im not so sure that it would hurt the paint much if at all. The vent would let out a lot of the heat from the engine bay, plus the aluminium doesnt seem to retain the heat much,so you should be right 
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Apr 29, 2004 - 5:40 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 21, '04 From united kingdom Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
am only concerned about the heat and any damage that can cause to the hood's paint. btw normal summer temp in my country is 40deg Celc. so you can see why i worry so much about the heat.
nah ive had mine off for a yr and theres no paint probs -------------------- GT4 ST205 79 modifications and rising!!
spec list: http://sox-japoc.co.uk/forum/garage.php?mo..._vehicle&CID=10 |
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Apr 29, 2004 - 7:55 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Apr 15, '03 From San Jose, CA, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
I took off my heat shiel stuf a long time ago, and now even running with a 3S-GTE under the hood, and no vents, the paint is fine. And the hood gets to the point of not being able to be touched because of heat.
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Apr 30, 2004 - 12:41 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 4, '02 From Davenport Iowa Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Hey yoda.. I got a hood for sale for 200 that would be perfect for what your tryin to do.. and since you live just a few miles away no SHIPPIng.. hit me up if your interested
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