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I went to the dyno today to get a baseline to compare my upcoming modifications (new turbo kit). To make a long story short, my car jumped the rollers and roasted a tire after the first pull. The dyno shop didn't charge me for the pull and is buying a replacement tire so all is good. Luckily, my rims that took 6 months to get did not get damaged. The car is fine except the tire.
Anyway, I will let you all guess my numbers just for fun. Relevant mods: 2nd gen JDM 3sgte - ceramic ct26 5 angle valve job on otherwise stock head huge FMIC 540 cc injectors with no aftermarket fuel control (JDM ECU) 2.5" mandrel bent exhast - secondary cat removed stock primary cat apexi intake ebc at 14psi 4th gear pull guess away at whp and ft/lbs of torque! I will post up the numbers later. This post has been edited by jgreening: Nov 5, 2005 - 2:28 AM -------------------- QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback] i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this. |
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im going to guess at a ballpark of 225hp/tq
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By the way, here's Tim's (boosted_K2) thread where he got his 3s dyno'ed with a ct20b for comparison....
Tim's dyno results This post has been edited by jgreening: Nov 3, 2005 - 4:54 PM -------------------- QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback] i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this. |
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yah my guess would also be around 230whp/tq
did u go rich a lil' bit when u hit the higher rpms cuz of the 540cc injectors w/o any management? bboy -------------------- ![]() ..(formerly daily driven) 3S-GTE powered celica currently set @ 12psi.. |
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QUOTE(BBoYRuGGeD @ Nov 3, 2005 - 4:59 PM) yah my guess would also be around 230whp/tq did u go rich a lil' bit when u hit the higher rpms cuz of the 540cc injectors w/o any management? bboy [right][snapback]352693[/snapback][/right] off the scale rich after 6000 rpms. This will be addressed as well... -------------------- QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback] i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this. |
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im gonna say in the 230whp range.
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217 whp
220 torque so let see the real numbers -------------------- yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
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ah i see...well i still say around 230whp/tq. did u get an EMS yet jay? and what new turbo u slapping on?
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QUOTE(BBoYRuGGeD @ Nov 3, 2005 - 5:07 PM) ah i see...well i still say around 230whp/tq. did u get an EMS yet jay? and what new turbo u slapping on? bboy [right][snapback]352701[/snapback][/right] I have not bought the EMS but it is coming. I am buying an AEM. A GT28RS turbo will be installed very soon. -------------------- QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback] i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this. |
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wait ..what prize do we win if we guess right?
edit: and mr2 turbos normally dyno about 20hp less then jdm swaps do with the same mods. This post has been edited by lagos: Nov 3, 2005 - 5:31 PM -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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now i want to say 250 because no one really know whats done to your ecu and why you had 550cc injectors in there .
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QUOTE(lagos @ Nov 3, 2005 - 5:30 PM) wait ..what prize do we win if we guess right? edit: and mr2 turbos normally dyno about 20hp less then jdm swaps do with the same mods. [right][snapback]352710[/snapback][/right] Here's the prize: ![]() LOL ![]() As for the hp comparison, remember, he had a ct20b.... -------------------- QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback] i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this. |
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QUOTE(lagos @ Nov 3, 2005 - 5:33 PM) now i want to say 250 because no one really know whats done to your ecu and why you had 550cc injectors in there . [right][snapback]352713[/snapback][/right] 250whp with a ct26? Nah. -------------------- QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback] i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this. |
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well you at least have to be in the 200-235 ball park at 14psi, or you have to have a massive boost leak or something.
he had a ct20b on a high milage usdm motor This post has been edited by lagos: Nov 3, 2005 - 5:43 PM -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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so what are the numbers
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QUOTE(nik @ Nov 3, 2005 - 5:50 PM) so what are the numbers [right][snapback]352722[/snapback][/right] patience Nik....I will post them up after dinner tonight.... Perhaps some more people will want to take a guess.... ![]() This post has been edited by jgreening: Nov 3, 2005 - 6:01 PM -------------------- QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback] i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this. |
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ok i can wait
![]() -------------------- yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
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I'm guessing around 230 or 240 HP??
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236 hp and ........................and one pony
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219whp
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And the answer is.....
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 215 whp and 243 ft/lbs. This post has been edited by jgreening: Nov 3, 2005 - 7:27 PM -------------------- QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback] i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this. |
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Awesome numbers. I was going to guess that if I had got here sooner.
Congrats man, sorry to hear about your tire. Get it to the strip before the new turbo. Awesome job Jay ![]() -------------------- ![]() I will return one day. |
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Thanks Jeff. I was expecting low 200's for both figures so I was pleasantly surprised....
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pretty good, but i think you could unlock a lot more power with a 3in downpipe and 3in exhaust
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QUOTE(lagos @ Nov 3, 2005 - 9:59 PM) pretty good, but i think you could unlock a lot more power with a 3in downpipe and 3in exhaust [right][snapback]352831[/snapback][/right] smiles...will be installed along with new turbo in 2005. -------------------- QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback] i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this. |
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QUOTE(jgreening @ Nov 3, 2005 - 8:26 PM) And the answer is..... * 215 whp and 243 ft/lbs. [right][snapback]352772[/snapback][/right] awesome #s Jay, must be extremely fun to drive ![]() -------------------- |
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Thanks Dustin. It is fun....but I am ready for a little upgrade
![]() Interestingly, I searched for the thread I started right after the swap was done. In that thread, I predicted whp at 220-230 and Tim (boosted2k) estimated 210-215. I guess he wins the cookie! (although I doubt he would have predicted the torque figure either) My swap thread -------------------- QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback] i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this. |
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holy crap jay ur pulling in some crazy torque! lol sweet! i think ud have pulled in higher HP numbers if u had some kinda tuning since ive read 3SGTE runs rich after 12 PSI. but damn bro real nice numbers! let me know how the AEM EMS is when u get it...im "curious"
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QUOTE(BBoYRuGGeD @ Nov 3, 2005 - 11:28 PM) let me know how the AEM EMS is when u get it...im "curious" ![]() bboy [right][snapback]352875[/snapback][/right] Will do. Just to let you know, I am not getting the AEM right away unless the new turbo dictates that I do so. -------------------- QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback] i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this. |
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do you havea copy of the dyno sheet you can post up with an a/f ratio ?
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QUOTE(lagos @ Nov 4, 2005 - 12:34 AM) do you havea copy of the dyno sheet you can post up with an a/f ratio ? [right][snapback]352902[/snapback][/right] Yea, but not in soft copy yet. The dyno operator is suppose to be emailing it to me. -------------------- QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback] i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this. |
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QUOTE(nik @ Nov 3, 2005 - 3:02 PM) 217 whp 220 torque so let see the real numbers [right][snapback]352697[/snapback][/right] QUOTE(jgreening @ Nov 3, 2005 - 5:26 PM) And the answer is..... 215 whp and 243 ft/lbs. [right][snapback]352772[/snapback][/right] yeah i was the closes to the whp can i get half a cookie ![]() -------------------- yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
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QUOTE smiles...will be installed along with new turbo in 2005. It is 2005. -------------------- ![]() A Jaws4God Creation... |
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QUOTE(vangSTa_celica @ Nov 4, 2005 - 11:53 AM) QUOTE smiles...will be installed along with new turbo in 2005. It is 2005. [right][snapback]353003[/snapback][/right] And there are 60 days left in the year. What is your point? This post has been edited by jgreening: Nov 4, 2005 - 4:16 PM -------------------- QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback] i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this. |
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I thought you meant 2006. So from what you're saying then, is that your turbo project is already underway, or am I having a hard time comprehending English?
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QUOTE(vangSTa_celica @ Nov 4, 2005 - 3:19 PM) I thought you meant 2006. So from what you're saying then, is that your turbo project is already underway, or am I having a hard time comprehending English? [right][snapback]353097[/snapback][/right] Definitely hard time comprehending English. Perhaps I could have stated it more clearly. Lets try this: my turbo project (and new exhaust) is not installed or underway yet. The exhaust components are obtained, however. The entire project will be complete by the end of the year. -------------------- QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback] i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this. |
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Ahhhhhhh. Me understand now. Back to cave.
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so what do you think you'll make on the new set up around 250-260 whp? and close to 290-300 torque?
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QUOTE(nik @ Nov 4, 2005 - 4:04 PM) so what do you think you'll make on the new set up around 250-260 whp? and close to 290-300 torque? [right][snapback]353127[/snapback][/right] My goals are a modest 280whp / 280ft/lbs at 17psi with 200 ft/lbs before 2900 RPMs. My next project car will not have a lag issue. -------------------- QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback] i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this. |
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Here is the graph I got yesterday. The dyno operator told me he was going to email me the run files but he never did. This graph doesn't include the air/fuel ratio and was mapped against MPH rather than RPM's. 200 ft/lbs is reached right at 3000 RPMs.
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