My 3sgte swap thread, The diary begins TODAY! Options

[brianforster]

Purchased intercooler piping, intercooler, clamps, etc. from a number of different sources (bends, clamps, couplers from roadraceengineering.com, straight pipe from atpturbo, and intercooler from johnnyracecar.)

total 509$ still awaiting shipment calculations from roadraceengineering. (playr, im not sure where your calculations came from you bum, because it was definitly more expensive then that damn ebay kit, but well do it your way )

just put in a phone call to an exhaust shop for a 3" custom exhaust from the downpipe back. said the muffler alone is like 100$ (i said give me the least flashy thing possible, i basically just want pipe sticking out the back no canister) hes gonna call back with a quote tomorrow.

i do not have emissions, but in order to pass state inspection i have to have a cat, so i had them give me the quote including that. waiting on a call back for that.


car is enroute (see general thread) but needs a new front bumper and windshield, i still have yet to see pics of it, so hopefully chucky (bojangles_8686) will give us all some good pics when he gets out of class at 8:45.

this will be the thread where i post updates on it, were looking to complete the entire swap in about a week, or a little longer, it will be sped up by the fact that the wiring is complete and the engine was pulled from a 6gc with the swap already finished.

-Brian

Edit: As far as budget goes, I still have about 1200$ left to hopefully finish the following
boost gauge
exhaust
front bumper
windshield
inspection, tags, title.
misc things needed during swap (like unbelievaburgers.. oh yeah, oil too )

This post has been edited by brianforster: Mar 7, 2006 - 6:59 PM

[lagos]

where did you get the motor from? did you set aside money for tune up stuff, clutch, etc? exhausts and IC piping are the last thing you need to really worry about. get the motor in and make sure it runs well.

[yungazzdriver]

hey yo do u street race or interested in?

[brianforster]

another update:

i do not WISH to have a triple gauge pod but i cant find much else. i did find REALLY sweet gauges, that black out when they turn off, i like being inconspicuous, nothing too flashy here.

considering buying these:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/AC-S7-INVIS...sspagenameZWDVW
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/AC-S7-INVIS...sspagenameZWDVW
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/AC-S7-INVIS...sspagenameZWDVW

where did you get the motor from? did you set aside money for tune up stuff, clutch, etc? exhausts and IC piping are the last thing you need to really worry about. get the motor in and make sure it runs well.

got the motor from mark_426 who had it fresh rebuilt 1000 miles before he wrecked it! Clutch thats in it is good, and is a centerforce stage 3.

reason why i say IC and exhaust is because the motor was pulled, running strong, fresh rebuild, from his celica.

i have like i said, about 1200$ for the rest of the things on my list and i do not think that i will spend it all.

[yungazzdriver]

or not??????

[brianforster]

hey yo do u street race or interested in?

i will be taking the car to MIR, but i do not street race.

[yungazzdriver]

oh ok kool hope to see you im glad theres atleast one drag celica i can relate to cuz theres a lot road racing celicas in MD, which is kool id like to try it someday but ill always be on drag

This post has been edited by yungazzdriver: Mar 7, 2006 - 7:31 PM

[lagos]

oh no, not that motor... sorry dont mean to scare you, but i would set as much money aside as possible untill you swap that in and get it running and verify that everything is 100%.


dont buy those gauges. i think a few people here had problems with them. also, dont buy a gauge that reads up to 30psi of boost. your needled will barely move and it will be hard to read. get a gauge that reads up to 20psi the most. autometer, stewardwarner, vdo, greddy, etc are good ones to look at.

[brianforster]

oh no, not that motor... sorry dont mean to scare you, but i would set as much money aside as possible untill you swap that in and get it running and verify that everything is 100%.


dont buy those gauges. i think a few people here had problems with them. also, dont buy a gauge that reads up to 30psi of boost. your needled will barely move and it will be hard to read. get a gauge that reads up to 20psi the most. autometer, stewardwarner, vdo, greddy, etc are good ones to look at.

haha wow, dont mean to scare me, well you did! what could be wrong with it? I know it sounded a little rough at first (developed rod nock and had it rebuilt) but considering mark turned down higher offers AND delivered the motor to me, helped me unpack it, and has answered all my questions, seems like hes a trustworthy guy.

as for the gauges, damn, i really liked them.

This post has been edited by brianforster: Mar 7, 2006 - 7:38 PM

[lagos]

oh no, not that motor... sorry dont mean to scare you, but i would set as much money aside as possible untill you swap that in and get it running and verify that everything is 100%.


dont buy those gauges. i think a few people here had problems with them. also, dont buy a gauge that reads up to 30psi of boost. your needled will barely move and it will be hard to read. get a gauge that reads up to 20psi the most. autometer, stewardwarner, vdo, greddy, etc are good ones to look at.

haha wow, dont mean to scare me, well you did! what could be wrong with it? I know it sounded a little rough at first (developed rod nock and had it rebuilt) but considering mark turned down higher offers AND delivered the motor to me, helped me unpack it, and has answered all my questions, seems like hes a trustworthy guy.

as for the gauges, damn, i really liked them.

all i know is that he had a lot of problems with it, he didnt know anything about the 3sgte and had some totally clue less people work on it and do a horrible job. i hope you have better luck with it, but dont spend your money on toys untill you get to see it run inside your own car.

[brianforster]

do you mean mark or DMC, he said it was running great when he got it back from quarter mile customs, are those the people you say "worked on it but did a horrible job"

and i dont consider boost gauge, ic, and exhaust toys.. they seem like necessary things for a good running, safe swap.

[snapshotgt]

Good Luck on the swap...post pics of the work!

~snap

This post has been edited by snapshotgt: Mar 7, 2006 - 8:21 PM

[bojangles_8686]

Nice.. I will post some pics up tonight when the shell gets here.

[BBoYRuGGeD]

ah yes i've got the gauges that are completely black when the car is turned off and light up when the car is turned on. they look awesome at night but are hard to see during the day. also, mines from glow-shift and i like it except for the fact that its off a tiny bit...lol

good luck on ur motor swap brian and i hope it goes without any snag.

bboy

[brianforster]

bad news, transposed from another thread: its an st, and the airbags are blown. i was lied to, heh.

[BBoYRuGGeD]

well that sucks...whats your course of action now?

bboy

[brianforster]

nothing i can do really, its my fault for buying the car without so much as seeing a picture and trusting the guy i was talking to on the phone.

for any wondering this is NOT easternpiros fault, he was a big help and is even offering to go confront the seller about it.

now it appears i start to source:
rear break conversion
power window conversion
possible airbag parts
headlights
front bumper.

as cheap as possible.

also parts needed to put the 3sgte into an st, ive still got research to do as far as thats concerned.

This post has been edited by brianforster: Mar 7, 2006 - 9:55 PM

[lagos]

and i dont consider boost gauge, ic, and exhaust toys.. they seem like necessary things for a good running, safe swap.

i just mean, dont go buying turbo timers, electronic boost gauges and all the other expensive stuff for turbo cars. concentrate on the basics, inspect any rubber seals or gaskets, and just make sure that you have money left over for the "what if" situations. like i said, i dont really know any insder info on that motor, but im suspicious of it because of its rebuild and other issues i read about it.

[playr158]

don't worry art i'll school him in the ways of necessity b4 toys

brian don't worry we got this


and on a side note (sorry i can't help my self)
streetracings lol he got enough nos in there to blow him self up!

[brianforster]

yeah, playr is definitly the master at turning my pathetic ripped off self and my poor wrecked ST into as close as gt as humanly possible haha.

[CelicaZR]

Good luck with the swap
You are such an awesome guy Art, always looking out for
the well being of other members and giving good advices

[lagos]

You are such an awesome guy Art, always looking out for
the well being of other members and giving good advices

thanks man, i apriciate it.

[brianforster]

playr ill be coming home next friday or saturday depending on when i can get someone with a truck to help me tote the engine home

[Drocay]

if u guys need any help, i'm close as well.

[scothaniel]

in order to pass state inspection i have to have a cat

Get a cheapy from Summit Racing - like $60. The local exhaust shop said the same thing to me, then tried to charge $225 for a cat.

[brianforster]

update:

today me daniel (playr158) mark (mark_426) and brandon i think (pimped6gen) had a fun day of pulling stuff off of marks car.

i got the doors (to make sure everythign was there for power windows we just unbolted the door at the hinge and brought it home like that) the dash, shifter trim, body wiring harness, rear brakes, gt shifter cables, throttle cables, and prolly other stuff i dont remember.

this cuts my list of parts needed to do the swap and restore the car down a lot, i am excited about everything i get to do to the celica, even though it will be time consuming.

playr will probably post too, i think he under estimated how stupid i was, but im learning! (i got the rear brakes off by myself untill i went to the bathroom and mark and daniel took over haha)

[Defgeph]

sweet man that car is getting the full treatment !

[brianforster]

haha yeah it is, new airbags, airbag ecu, front crash sensor, new front bumper, new engine/transmission, new dash, new door panels, new body wiring harness new engine wiring harness. adding power options where there previously were none, theres gonna be more of other celicas in my celi than my celica! new headlights too haha.

but, it will be worth it because of the transformation it will undergo, sure, it might ahve been easier and cheaper to buy a better shell, but i have to work with what i got, and its gonna clearly be better due to the effort put into it, in my opinion

the ultimate transformation begins in 1 week

This post has been edited by brianforster: Mar 11, 2006 - 1:00 AM

[playr158]

mwahaha that was the 4th or 5th celica i've dismantled in about the last 4 months it was a great day plus getting to meet 2 more 6gc members was a blast even i was able to bring home a part

but oh man do we have freakin loads of work to do with rewiring your car

[brianforster]

since i have an ST now, this means i need to find a 3sgte or a 5sfe a/c condensor and ac lines, correct?

[Dr_Tweak]

since i have an ST now, this means i need to find a 3sgte or a 5sfe a/c condensor and ac lines, correct?

Or you can have custom lines made at a shop for you, also the power steering lines need some work, and you'll need a resevoir, and a cooler if you want to run one.

-Doc

[brianforster]

since i have an ST now, this means i need to find a 3sgte or a 5sfe a/c condensor and ac lines, correct?

Or you can have custom lines made at a shop for you, also the power steering lines need some work, and you'll need a resevoir, and a cooler if you want to run one.

-Doc

a resevoir and a cooler for the p/s? from a 5sfe or a 3sgte?

[lagos]

how long to you think your project will take? it seems like you have a TON of work ahead of you.

[brianforster]

how long to you think your project will take? it seems like you have a TON of work ahead of you.

im hoping to start the 18th and be done the 26th.

keep in mind that during those 9 days i will be doing nothing but working on this car (provided the sun is up, and if i can get lighting, then ill do it during the night to)

ill prolly be working on it a good 12 hours a day during that time, and ill have help from daniel (playr) and chucky (bojangles) and some other friends that arent 6gc guys, some things will happen at the same time (removal of engine and converting back brakes for instance, putting in new engine and working on airbags, etc.)

edit: this is why i ask so many questions about parts, i do not want to have to wait on anythign parts wise, so i spend a good 6 hours a day now reading, searching, buying stuff for the swap and restoration of my car, im confident i can finish it, it is a lot of work but i think i can do it)

certain things make my job easier, like the wiring harness being done already (which i found out was done by qatar) and pretty much everything being attatched to the engine (for instance, the serpentine belt is attatched and tight, so power steering and A/C are all still connected) even the motor mounts are on the engine (mark gave me almost everything).

certain tasks also go together, like replacing the airbags, well my life got easier since i bought marks dash + interior wiring harness, so i can repalce the passenger airbag while it is outside the car, remove my dash, and put marks on, viola i am now wired for all power options. i also bought marks doors and door panels, so theres another easy step, i will remove the power options pieces and put them onto my car.

i also have to change the front bumper and some headlights, but since i have to take the front bumper off to mount intercooler, thats no extra work either, see where im going with this?

basically i will be performing open heart surgery on this beast, but i do not feel overwhelmed, i have great friends and great sources of info and i think it is entirely realistic to have this car running that quickly.

This post has been edited by brianforster: Mar 12, 2006 - 12:28 PM

[lagos]

i hate to give you a reality check, but unless youve done lots of swaps before, there is no way youll be done in just 9 days. back when i started my swap, i originally thought it would take me 2 weeks, and in reality it took 2 months, and i didnt have to redo the whole car from the ground up like you are doing. another thing is, that you dont want to rush anything during a project like this. now is the time to look over everything a tripple check that you did everything right, so that you dont have to pull the motor again.

working 12hr straight sounds like a good plan, in theory, but youll be dead tired after a few days and wont be able to continue that pace. also, unexpected things pop up when working on a car that will set you back longer then you thought sometimes.

dont get me wrong, you can totally swap a motor in a weekend, but only if you know what you are doing a head of time and have everything preped and ready to go before you start.

[brianforster]

i hate to give you a reality check, but unless youve done lots of swaps before, there is no way youll be done in just 9 days. back when i started my swap, i originally thought it would take me 2 weeks, and in reality it took 2 months, and i didnt have to redo the whole car from the ground up like you are doing. another thing is, that you dont want to rush anything during a project like this. now is the time to look over everything a tripple check that you did everything right, so that you dont have to pull the motor again.

working 12hr straight sounds like a good plan, in theory, but youll be dead tired after a few days and wont be able to continue that pace. also, unexpected things pop up when working on a car that will set you back longer then you thought sometimes.

dont get me wrong, you can totally swap a motor in a weekend, but only if you know what you are doing a head of time and have everything preped and ready to go before you start.

the thing is, my motor came out of a running, swapped, 6th gen celica, so i have an edge against most people here who have done swaps.

and to the "dead tired" thing after a few days, sure i will be, but it wont stop me, i am determined to finish this, and ive never been too tired to work on something that benefits me.

as far as the interior stuff goes, that can all be done while the motor swap is happening so i dont really add that to "time needed"

did you do the swap by yourself? because i will probably have atleast 2-4 people with me each day helping out on different sections of the car.

edit: i do understand unforseen consequences though, i just think ill be able to work around them, now, i could end up with my foot in mouth (seems like a trend lately) but as of now i think i (and the people helping me) have a very good shot at completing this car in this time frame.

This post has been edited by brianforster: Mar 12, 2006 - 2:10 PM

[playr158]

art don't forget you also had to do wiring ect. and a few misc. things
this one has a lot of pre-prepared stuff already not to mention lots of documentation which also wasn't around back then....

but unless youve done lots of swaps before, there is no way youll be done in just 9 days.

and just cause he hasn't done one doens't mean that its impossible...

but the only way to find out is to try

[brianforster]

ordered my muffler, cat, and flex pipe today off of ebay "performance-curve" was the ebay store, stuff looks pretty good. if it isnt, well, its gonna have to do for now! haha.

magnaflow SS muffler
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...AMEWN%3AIT&rd=1

3" flex pipe
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...item=8044013480

3" high flow cat
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...AMEWN%3AIT&rd=1

total 166$ shipped.. not bad

This post has been edited by brianforster: Mar 12, 2006 - 5:29 PM

[brianforster]

going home thursday to begin everythign!

still have to figure out what im doing for:
p/s lines, a/c lines, windshield, and airbag sensors, other than that, im pretty done!

the workload is big, but daniel (playr158) and my other friends are convinced we can finish it all!

will keep everyone updated

[easternpiro1]

going home thursday to begin everythign!

still have to figure out what im doing for:
p/s lines, a/c lines, windshield, and airbag sensors, other than that, im pretty done!

the workload is big, but daniel (playr158) and my other friends are convinced we can finish it all!

will keep everyone updated

BOY! i hope i can see this by the time i get up to va!!

[DG_Performance]

art don't forget you also had to do wiring ect. and a few misc. things
this one has a lot of pre-prepared stuff already not to mention lots of documentation which also wasn't around back then....

but unless youve done lots of swaps before, there is no way youll be done in just 9 days.

and just cause he hasn't done one doens't mean that its impossible...

but the only way to find out is to try

I did Lago's harness for him....it was the first one i did for another member! And i think i only charged him 175 for it cause he was taking a chance with me possibly messing it up. I actually had one wire in his harness that i forgot to hook up.(the main power wire, haha) It took us like 2 days on the phone talking for hours tracking the problem down.
DG

[playr158]

LOL main power wire...smoooooth

[lagos]

art don't forget you also had to do wiring ect. and a few misc. things
this one has a lot of pre-prepared stuff already not to mention lots of documentation which also wasn't around back then....

but unless youve done lots of swaps before, there is no way youll be done in just 9 days.

and just cause he hasn't done one doens't mean that its impossible...

but the only way to find out is to try

I did Lago's harness for him....it was the first one i did for another member! And i think i only charged him 175 for it cause he was taking a chance with me possibly messing it up. I actually had one wire in his harness that i forgot to hook up.(the main power wire, haha) It took us like 2 days on the phone talking for hours tracking the problem down.
DG

yeah, those were good times...lol i got to learn all about my harness, tryring to track that damn wire down..lol

[Dr_Tweak]

I'm taking bets on the finishing time. I wager $5 it'll be 21 days.

-Doc

[playr158]

i'll take that 5$ in 9 days from today

[hitcachi]

lol, this board would feel so empty without Dan's shananagens!

[brianforster]

I'm taking bets on the finishing time. I wager $5 it'll be 21 days.

-Doc

damn doc, i dont need you workin against me!

[brianforster]

got engine home today after much debate on where to mount the chain and some close calls (thankfully it was on grass)

entire engine is wrapped in a tarp (even underneath) and a tarp is over all parts outside in case of rain, i will get pictures soon of the swap area, the engine, all my misc parts, and of course the celi

[brianforster]

pulled interior: seats, center console, shifter trim, and radio trim

brought them inside to scrub clean, they are cleaning up nicely!

carpet is in excellent condition, body of the car is pretty good too, its the definition of "needs a little tlc" but its coming along well.

hope to accomplish today taking off headlights, front bumper, fenders, and to move the car around back to prepare for pulling the engine which starts tomorrow.

[brianforster]

maybe less pics than id hoped, i did not have a camera today, will try to update tomorrow too.

what i accomplished toda (thanks for the help chucky!)

removed seats, door sills, door panels, glove box, gauge cluster, shifter trim, etc, basically stripped the interior except for steering wheel and dash in preparation for airbag + power windows/locks installation on monday.

removed front bumper, and all 4 headlights

today was mostly prepwork, tomorrow will be removal of 7afe.

BTW it RUNS! hahah, we jumped it and it ran, it shook and smoked violently but hey, it moved under its own power to the swap area. im not sure whats wrong with it, "blown head" seems to be the diagnosis.

[lagos]

I'm taking bets on the finishing time. I wager $5 it'll be 21 days.

-Doc

5bucks? im willing to put up the title to my car, that it wont be done in 9 days...lamo !!!!

there are 2 ways to swap a motor. one is what i like to call "the quick and dirty". the other is "take your time and do it right". needless to say, im not a fan of the quick and dirty.

[brianforster]

I'm taking bets on the finishing time. I wager $5 it'll be 21 days.

-Doc

5bucks? im willing to put up the title to my car, that it wont be done in 9 days...lamo !!!!

there are 2 ways to swap a motor. one is what i like to call "the quick and dirty". the other is "take your time and do it right". needless to say, im not a fan of the quick and dirty.

i think i am the first person on these forums to pull a setup from a running 3sgte swapped celica and put it into another celica.

how long do you think it would take you to take your entire setup and put it into another car? now subtract the work involved in removing teh setup from your car.

if you add up labor hours, my swap will probably involve similar times as most other peoples , i just putting the labor hours in consecutive days one after the other.

you are consistently pessimistic in my thread, so how about everybody stop guessing on whether this will get done or not (i already have enough negative energy coming from my friends that like to hassle me, and my parents who think im a moron) this site is about enthusiasts and encouragement.

note this was not supposed to be specifically for you lagos, you help a lot and im not sayin i want you to stop giving me advice, lets just all try to keep the comments down about whether ill finish this or not.


thanks
-brian

[lagos]

brian. im not trying to be hard on you .. and im sorry if something i said offended u. i know a swap can be very stressfull.

if you read my post again, youll notice that i said that im not a fan of the "quick and dirty". what i really ment to say is that i wouldnt recomend setting any kind of deadlines. take your time and do things the RIGHT way. make sure its a nice clean install, that you doubble check everything, take the time to verify you have a good motor, that all rubber gaskets are in good shape, etc...

you also remind me of myself when i started the swap. i took off 2 weeks from work and thought that was all it would take. i ended up learng a hard lesson about what it takes to do a job like this, not to mention, now important it is to take your time and do things right. if i had to swap in another motor into my car, i could probably do it all on my own in 1 weekend. would i want to do it that fast? no. im a firm believer in taking my time to make sure i do everything perfectly and to make sure its a nice and clean looking install. anything you rush through now, will just having to be taken apart and fixed later.

a few months after i finished my swap, i met a guy who was about 80yrs old. we started talking about cars, and i found out he restores steam powered classics. he gave me some of the best advice about car work ... " take any time frame you have for the project and take your budget, and multiply by 3. if you finish within that time and budget, conisder youself lucky" ..lol i thought that was some of the best advice anyone gave me.

This post has been edited by lagos: Mar 17, 2006 - 10:21 PM

[Dr_Tweak]

Brian,

Like Art said, we're not trying to be hard on you. I'm right behind you all the way and you have my number if you get stuck on anything. It's just that we've been through this, myself multiple times, and you just can't get stuff done that quick... it's not the big things that slow you down, it's all the pesky little things... like the clip that holds the shifter cables in being so corroded that you can't remove it and you spend half a day on that one thing... stuff like that.

Keep us updated though. And remember, if you do get it done in 9 days, you get to have Lagos car

-Doc

[brianforster]

i wont be mad if i miss my deadline, its not like a final thing, jsut a few people have told me its a reasonable goal given the parts i have, so im shooting for it.

ive definitly already put a LOT of time into this already, and the swap hasnt even started, lots of the thigns i have already done fall into the time spans that most of the swap diarys i have read include.

i know one thing for sure, if it does get finished in the time frame i hope, it will be thanks to the great people of these forums, not my automotive prowess

edit: Doc just posted, well thanks both of you for clearing some of it up, i should have known you were just doin a little friendly hazing, but i worry about this being the right choice to appropriate my funds to every day, 90% Of the time i am awake i am going over all of the info i have read, all of the parts i need, all of hte parts i think i MIGHT need, how im spending my money, if im spending it wisely.

i had a huge test and paper yesterday, and after that i had to load the engine and a hoist on a truck that could barely fit the hoist (lets say it was tight) and i got home and unloaded the motor at about 1 in the morning, went to bed and woke up at 6 to come out and start working, i just couldnt sleep. aside from a 2 hour nap mid day, i worked on the car all day, tomorrow i have friends scheduled to come over at 11 am, we hope to be able to pull the motor tomorrow and maybe accomplish other misc things. there will be like 5 of us here helping, thank god my friends are all automotive enthusiasts.

doh, edit again:

i do understand the little details parts today, i spent a good hour just now putting my armrest console back together as i had to superglue some pieces because i broke them now i letting it dry and hoping to put it back tomorrow. also chucky and i spent about 2 hours today removing the alarm he had wired up, and the car phone (i think it was a car phone anyways) that, combined with the "oh **** clip" that holds manual window cranks on, there was definitly some little things that held me up.

This post has been edited by brianforster: Mar 17, 2006 - 10:48 PM

[lagos]

yep, thats how car jobs go. little dumb stuff that should take 5min, sometimes take a lot longer then that .

at least your making progress! good luck! cant wait to see it done.

[brianforster]

engine is almost out, i think all we have left is 1 p/s line, and the axels, we got one axel bolt off, but the other one is so tough that we broke two sockets on it, both under warranty hopefully though.

tomorrow should be complete removal of the engine, and replacement of windshield (guys comin to the house to do it)

[bojangles_8686]

Brian lets make sure we have some PB Blaster today

[brianforster]

engine is removed! dan should be coming tomorrow and were doign the interior stuff (airbags etc)


still confused on how to keep a/c and p/s, as well as where to buy another power steering pulley.

edit: what i mean by a/c and p/s is that which "lines" need to be replaced like, they go ALL over the engine bay it looks like, do i have to reroute all of that or is there just a certani spot where it differs from the 5sfe/3sgte lines.

hopefully dan should come tomorrow and answer some (read: a lot) of my questions

This post has been edited by brianforster: Mar 19, 2006 - 5:15 PM

[playr158]

MWHAHAHAHAH i'll be there soon as my midterm is over!

btw umm i'm missing work for this at 15$ an hour, are you goin to compensate? lol

[brianforster]

the short answer is no

[Dr_Tweak]

Where are all the pics???

I call BS with no pics



-Doc

[brianforster]

ill try and get chucky to bring his camera over today

[playr158]

i got my camera

expect a couple of write ups/how-tos
and just punch of fotos in general

[bojangles_8686]

I'll bring my camera today so we can bombard this thread with pics

[bojangles_8686]

Ok here are a few pics from earlier today.

[lagos]

one of the few that comes close to the origingal . all its lacking is the proper camera angle, that everyone seems to forget about.

[Chanh55]

All this looks painfully familiar.. =/

[devilsden97]

All this looks painfully familiar.. =/

dont talk about pain, u love that 3sgte under your hood. U spank ricers with it on a daily basis.

[Chanh55]

All this looks painfully familiar.. =/

dont talk about pain, u love that 3sgte under your hood. U spank ricers with it on a daily basis.

lol... actually I'm scared to drive it. But yeah... We just need some time alone to warm up to each oher and fall in love all over again.

[brianforster]

dan just left a little while ago, we got the interior completely disassembled

everyones trying to get me to use marks doors instead of transplanting the power window motor into my red doors to save time, but i just CANT do it haha.

were supposed to get snow tonight (can you believe that) so i had to tarp everything up untill the morning.

but tomorrow im gonna work on the windows some more, if anyone has some tips let me know.

also i need to buy a new ac condensor, but a junk yard gave me a quote for 75$ which seems pretty good considering they are 158$ from parts america (advance auto parts)

i think dan is doing a how to on removing the dash, he took a bunch of pics too, he should have them ready for you when he gets home

This post has been edited by brianforster: Mar 20, 2006 - 8:18 PM

[ThAixGuYx2k7]

nice work man! cant wait to see it when its all done! i'll deffinately be needing to keep track with this thread for future reference

[Gatz]

snow got pushd back to tuesday night i believe and some ice tommorow... looking good wish i could offer some help for a fellow md 6gc but u guys know a ton more than i do, though if u need another hand leave a pm or something

[yungazzdriver]

wtf man turns out theres so much freakin MD celica owners on this board, maybe one day we all should have a big time meet and just chill?????

[Dr_Tweak]

BUAHAHA I love it! Excellent work! Definetely one of the best yet

I'll go update the Dr Tweak Pose thread now

-Doc

This post has been edited by Dr_Tweak: Mar 20, 2006 - 10:11 PM

[bojangles_8686]

Hey Brian I get off work at 3:30 tomorrow and I'll come over after that. We can buy a couple of cans of red spray paint and cover those doors lol

[bigal004321]

Looking good guys, nice progress so far!! i will be doing the same thing in a month or so..and i cant wait!! I am going to give tweak the honor of doing my wiring harness though...becuase i dont like wiring all that much...lol..keep up the good work.. and give alot of how to's also, cuz i will need them!

[Chanh55]

BUAHAHA I love it! Excellent work! Definetely one of the best yet

I'll go update the Dr Tweak Pose thread now

-Doc

Hey Doc. I just noticed that pose is strikingly similar to your Icon.

[ThAixGuYx2k7]

^ HAHA! hes right! thats awesome

[playr158]

This post has been edited by playr158: Mar 21, 2006 - 2:06 PM

[bojangles_8686]

Nice work Dan, your girlfriend actually let you off the phone so you could do that stuff?

[bojangles_8686]

oops double post

This post has been edited by bojangles_8686: Mar 21, 2006 - 2:20 PM

[playr158]

haha that wasn't my gf well not anymore at least

but yea thanks for droppin off the sideskirts they are now happily resting in my bedroom next to my new dash

but yea i actually had all that done before i got onto the fone with her pretty much just stopped at that point because of the stripped bolt which i'll remove the next time i come over with a drill and exactor bit

[brianforster]

weather was poopy today, affecting my optimism of this car ever being everything i dreamed of.

hopefully motor will go in tomorrow, ill keep everyone updated as usual

boost gauge came in the mail today, funny how a toy can lift your spirits

[brianforster]

update for today: got marks black doors on, dash back on, airbags installed, interior is almost finished except for a pesky wiring issue.

as far as the swap goes, unfortunately i need a new motor moutn that im going to try and pull from a celica at a junk yard tomorrow provided it is in good condition.

marks passenger motor mount (coincidentally is the only one thats different for the 3sgte into a ST swap) is bent ever so slightly and dan suggests i get a ew one.

after talking it out with some friends though, i have decided to heat it and bend it back (its less than an inch of travel) so that i may get the engine in and the chassis rolling into my driveway (my mom said that it has to be ni the driveway and out of the backyard by the time i leave for school sunday)

i know you are all going to post your opinions on this , and i wanna hear them, just try and be nice about it. i know forums arent the best place to tell your stories of rigging somethign up, but this is pretty necessary for me to do, otherwise i haev to shell out like 100 bucks for another moutn and wait on it to get here.

[yungazzdriver]

what do you mean that the st and gt mounts are the same except for the passenger side, or that the only one you cant custom make is the passenger one, because i have both gt and st mounts and all might seem to be similar but arent.

[brianforster]

the only mount that needs to be changed for the swap is the passenger side though, atleast thats what dan has said forever, if they are different, then hes got some splainin to do, heh.

[yungazzdriver]

yeah man but hey i got all the gt mounts and i compared em and they all are dirreferent with minor differences but the passenger is completely different. i can bring the gt mounts over one of these days and show you the the bolts and holes are in different locations and the tranny breackets are completely different

[brianforster]

how much did you pay for all 4 mounts, just curious

[yungazzdriver]

[bigal004321]

Im pulling for you to finish this swap in 9 days..that will be pretty good for a first timer...ill be lucky if i finish in a year..lol

Bigal

[brianforster]

provided i can get the mount issue finished tomorrow its still possible, otherwise, im screwed.

i actually looked at defgephs parts diagrams and all of the moutns are the same part number except for the passenger side mount.

motor should be dropped in and mounted tomorrow, as long as the junkyard has the motor mount i need

[playr158]

mario the only different one is the passenger side one...the rest from the ST are usable

[Defgeph]

Brian you need all the GT mounts and brackets. I posted the diagrams of the ST & GT mounts to show the differences. Look at the pictures not the part numbers Those arent the actual part numbers, they are discription numbers. Look at the diagram again you'll notice the only one that is the same is the rear mount. The rear tranny bracket is different as well. You'll never get that engine in correctly using the ST mounts. You NEED GT parts.

mario the only different one is the passenger side one...the rest from the ST are usable

This is incorrect

[Rjb23]

Brian you need all the GT mounts and brackets. I posted the diagrams of the ST & GT mounts to show the differences. Look at the pictures not the part numbers Those arent the actual part numbers, they are discription numbers. Look at the diagram again you'll notice the only one that is the same is the rear mount. The rear tranny bracket is different as well. You'll never get that engine in correctly using the ST mounts. You NEED GT parts.

mario the only different one is the passenger side one...the rest from the ST are usable

This is incorrect

Ditto on that, they are all different. Unless you can get all 4 mounts by friday your screwed.

Oh yea I have the passenger side mount, not the bracket brand new I'll sell for $90 shipped.

[brianforster]

well i guess that ends my swap then for now.. dan, you ass telling me all along that there was only 1 different one... meh

[bigal004321]

ahh man thats too bad...well u tried and that is all you can say...how was it working outside, rather have worked in a garage or outside better.

Bigal

[brianforster]

working outsides only downfall is when the sun goes down the days over

[brianforster]

according to parts america the rear mount is the same, and according to the diagram only the mounting bracket is different, which i have.

i have the passenger motor mount and mounting bracket and the driver side motor mount and that bracket is welded onto the car, so that works.

if i can find front and rear motor mounts before the weekend i might be set!

furthermore, i cant find anyone who sells more than just the rear or passenger side. BLARGH

[Rjb23]

Your going to have to go to Toyota to get the mounts.