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post Apr 18, 2006 - 9:07 PM
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$3.02 a gallon for 93 octane.
in mass outside of worcester.
these prices are nuts! i want my old auto ST now tongue.gif


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post Apr 18, 2006 - 9:12 PM
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~$2.75/gallon for 87.

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post Apr 18, 2006 - 9:17 PM
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$2.89 87 octane
$3.00 90 octane <----could be wrong octane, and wrong price (i usually only look at the regular and high grade)
$3.03 93 octane


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post Apr 18, 2006 - 10:10 PM
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3.099 for 93 Premium. That's all I use. It's 2.859 or 87, and 2959 for 89.


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post Apr 18, 2006 - 10:22 PM
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107.5/L for 87 octane in toronto. But our prices went down alot mid day today..i saw 93.2/L at about 5:30 in the aft.
post Apr 18, 2006 - 10:28 PM
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$3.01 for regular, dont even get me started on the prices.


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post Apr 18, 2006 - 10:31 PM
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QUOTE(Valo666 @ Apr 18, 2006 - 11:22 PM) [snapback]423261[/snapback]

107.5/L for 87 octane in toronto. But our prices went down alot mid day today..i saw 93.2/L at about 5:30 in the aft.



MAth time!

1 Liquid liter = 3.784512 Liquid Gallons

3.784512 x 1.075 = $4.06 CAD for 87 octane at (guessing) 9:00am
3.784512 x 0.932 = $3.53 CAD for 87 octane at 5:30pm

(had to make it english cuz us americas are ignorante to the fact that the rest of the world uses metric)

Currency Exchange:

$4.06 CAD = $3.56 USD
$3.53 CAD = $3.09 USD


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$3.25 for 93, i would get 94 but they dont sell that around here.

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post Apr 19, 2006 - 12:36 AM
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Some numbers from Europe:


1 liter of 95 octane Super Plus costs 1.07€... someone may say "wow it's cheap"... but not be over hasty for conclusions, here is recomputation to US gallons and USD:

1 european liter is 0.264 US gallon -> 1US gallon is 3.79 liters, so for one US gallon of fuel I pay 4.04€ here...
That's 4.85USD for 1US gallon of 95 octane Super Plus!!! (I belive "Super Plus" means "unleaded gas" biggrin.gif)

So smile and be happy you are not pay European prices wink.gif


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post Apr 19, 2006 - 12:37 AM
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QUOTE(malpaso @ Apr 19, 2006 - 1:36 AM) [snapback]423341[/snapback]

Some numbers from Europe:


1 liter of 95 octane Super Plus costs 1.07€... someone may say "wow it's cheap"... but not be over hasty for conclusions, here is recomputation to US gallons and USD:

1 european liter is 0.264 US gallon -> 1US gallon is 3.79 liters, so for one US gallon of fuel I pay 4.04€ here...
That's 4.85USD for 1US gallon of 95 octane Super Plus!!! (I belive "Super Plus" means "unleaded gas" biggrin.gif)

So smile and be happy you are not pay European prices wink.gif




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post Apr 19, 2006 - 12:59 AM
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87 reg is 2.87-2.93 (arco vs mobil)
89 plus is 2.93-3.02 (arco vs mobil)
91 prem is 3.02-3.20 (arco vs mobil)
arco prem is as crappy as mobils reg so better off with a major brand of gas. (Chevron, Shell, Mobil)


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post Apr 19, 2006 - 1:40 AM
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why are you guys with just GT's buynig 93?


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post Apr 19, 2006 - 2:32 AM
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From vancouver

After converting to american dollars and funny units tongue.gif

$3.65 for 87 octane


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post Apr 19, 2006 - 5:30 AM
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In South Carolina

Gas Prices:
Shell: $2.72
Amoco: $2.69
post Apr 19, 2006 - 6:17 AM
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QUOTE(malpaso @ Apr 19, 2006 - 6:36 AM) [snapback]423341[/snapback]
Some numbers from Europe:


1 liter of 95 octane Super Plus costs 1.07€... someone may say "wow it's cheap"... but not be over hasty for conclusions, here is recomputation to US gallons and USD:

1 european liter is 0.264 US gallon -> 1US gallon is 3.79 liters, so for one US gallon of fuel I pay 4.04€ here...
That's 4.85USD for 1US gallon of 95 octane Super Plus!!! (I belive "Super Plus" means "unleaded gas" biggrin.gif )

So smile and be happy you are not pay European prices wink.gif


Hurrah. Someone is aware there is a place called "Not America".

Last time I filled the car up, it was over £50. That's what, $80? Something like that. I did 218 miles on that fuel. That's what, 37 cents a mile. Every mile. In fuel alone.....

Seriously, if you live in the US, you wouldn't know expensive fuel if a tanker load of it ran you over.


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post Apr 19, 2006 - 6:22 AM
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Well I'm paying about $AUS1.45 for Premium Unleaded (98 Octane) currently.
Its the only one I use, normal unleaded (92 octane I think) is about 10c cheaper.


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post Apr 19, 2006 - 6:40 AM
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QUOTE(Mr_E @ Apr 19, 2006 - 1:17 PM) [snapback]423401[/snapback]

QUOTE(malpaso @ Apr 19, 2006 - 6:36 AM) [snapback]423341[/snapback]
Some numbers from Europe:


1 liter of 95 octane Super Plus costs 1.07€... someone may say "wow it's cheap"... but not be over hasty for conclusions, here is recomputation to US gallons and USD:

1 european liter is 0.264 US gallon -> 1US gallon is 3.79 liters, so for one US gallon of fuel I pay 4.04€ here...
That's 4.85USD for 1US gallon of 95 octane Super Plus!!! (I belive "Super Plus" means "unleaded gas" biggrin.gif )

So smile and be happy you are not pay European prices wink.gif


Hurrah. Someone is aware there is a place called "Not America".

Last time I filled the car up, it was over £50. That's what, $80? Something like that. I did 218 miles on that fuel. That's what, 37 cents a mile. Every mile. In fuel alone.....

Seriously, if you live in the US, you wouldn't know expensive fuel if a tanker load of it ran you over.



It's about (crude guess) 5.69USD for 1US gallon... real disaster...

p.s.: I don't know how much is that for people in Britain (or anywhere), but average after-payment-tax incomes is 500-600 per month in my place... that's not much money to spend more kindasad.gif

QUOTE(CelicaZR @ Apr 19, 2006 - 1:22 PM) [snapback]423406[/snapback]

Well I'm paying about $AUS1.45 for Premium Unleaded (98 Octane) currently.
Its the only one I use, normal unleaded (92 octane I think) is about 10c cheaper.


come on mate, some conversion (USD for 1US gallon) needed biggrin.gif wink.gif


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post Apr 19, 2006 - 7:00 AM
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laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
I dont actually know how to convert it.
But trust me I'm paying alot compare to some of
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QUOTE(CelicaZR @ Apr 19, 2006 - 2:00 PM) [snapback]423414[/snapback]

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
I dont actually know how to convert it.
But trust me I'm paying alot compare to some of
you guys frown.gif



You are so lazy biggrin.gif wink.gif

Australian use liters, US gallons or UK gallons? I beleave UK ones Isn't it? But that price looks more for liters...

so if it's litres it should be 3.85USD for 1US gallon wink.gifwink.gifwink.gif

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post Apr 19, 2006 - 7:48 AM
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I realize you guys over in the UK pay a lot for gas (pretty much everywhere but the states), but I have something to tell you. WE IN THE STATES ARE NOT USED TO PAYING THIS MUCH!!! Stop griping to us about our complaining when we're used to a certain quality of life, and when gas prices take a 50% hike in a matter of a month, that changes what we're used to. You guys overseas are used to paying the high prices, and those high prices are largely in reason to the amount of taxes on them. That said,

The oil companies are feeling us out to see what we're willing to pay. There's absolutely no valid reason for how our gas prices have been raising recently. I've seen plenty of excuses thrown out, but no real reasons. I personally believe we need federal regulation of the petroleum industry here in the states to keep this incessant price gouging going. It's already being looked at in the natural gas sector, so hopefully it's only a matter of time before it hits the oil compaines too. Just give it a few more weeks until the oil companies start posting their rather large profits again and the government will start turning an eye towards them and they'll back off like what happened last fall.


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QUOTE(Fastbird @ Apr 19, 2006 - 2:48 PM) [snapback]423427[/snapback]

I realize you guys over in the UK pay a lot for gas (pretty much everywhere but the states), but I have something to tell you. WE IN THE STATES ARE NOT USED TO PAYING THIS MUCH!!! Stop griping to us about our complaining when we're used to a certain quality of life, and when gas prices take a 50% hike in a matter of a month, that changes what we're used to. You guys overseas are used to paying the high prices, and those high prices are largely in reason to the amount of taxes on them. That said,

The oil companies are feeling us out to see what we're willing to pay. There's absolutely no valid reason for how our gas prices have been raising recently. I've seen plenty of excuses thrown out, but no real reasons. I personally believe we need federal regulation of the petroleum industry here in the states to keep this incessant price gouging going. It's already being looked at in the natural gas sector, so hopefully it's only a matter of time before it hits the oil compaines too. Just give it a few more weeks until the oil companies start posting their rather large profits again and the government will start turning an eye towards them and they'll back off like what happened last fall.



Fastbird I didn't mean to be against anybody here at all (That was just for your info, if you don't want "global information" let us know wink.gif biggrin.gif ). There are just one fact I don't understand. If fall production of coal-oil (because of some hurricane or something like this.), price of gas grow in Europe instantly for 1/4 of dollar per gallon. So if in the US some havoc happened , I know my gas will be more expensive here in EU... And last year was really something...


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post Apr 19, 2006 - 8:37 AM
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87 = 2.59
89 = 2.69
91 = 2.81

Portland, Oregon, Its not that bad it could be worse...

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QUOTE(Fastbird @ Apr 19, 2006 - 8:48 AM) [snapback]423427[/snapback]

I realize you guys over in the UK pay a lot for gas (pretty much everywhere but the states), but I have something to tell you. WE IN THE STATES ARE NOT USED TO PAYING THIS MUCH!!! Stop griping to us about our complaining when we're used to a certain quality of life, and when gas prices take a 50% hike in a matter of a month, that changes what we're used to. You guys overseas are used to paying the high prices, and those high prices are largely in reason to the amount of taxes on them. That said,

The oil companies are feeling us out to see what we're willing to pay. There's absolutely no valid reason for how our gas prices have been raising recently. I've seen plenty of excuses thrown out, but no real reasons. I personally believe we need federal regulation of the petroleum industry here in the states to keep this incessant price gouging going. It's already being looked at in the natural gas sector, so hopefully it's only a matter of time before it hits the oil compaines too. Just give it a few more weeks until the oil companies start posting their rather large profits again and the government will start turning an eye towards them and they'll back off like what happened last fall.



ok lets all go back to ECONOMICS 101...

gas just like anyother world commodity has a DEMAND and a SUPPLY

now with prices on the "Y" axis and quantity on the "X" axis (just like every other supply and demand graph)
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the BLACK lines are your base graph D=demand S= Supply
now when we demand more gas the Demand curve shifts UP (meaning we want more gas aka using more)
so this new increase in demand is our redline...
NOTICE
demand goes up SUPPLY gets less...
why? because your using more DUH!

what happens when you demand more and use it up
the PRICE goes up! as you can see in the new position on the red line

so stop your stupid ignorant bitching about the government and greedy gas station owners....
if you want prices to go down... STOP USING GAS
thus the DEMAND goes down SUPPLY increases and PRICES FALL


~class dismissed

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QUOTE(malpaso @ Apr 19, 2006 - 9:26 AM) [snapback]423443[/snapback]

QUOTE(Fastbird @ Apr 19, 2006 - 2:48 PM) [snapback]423427[/snapback]

I realize you guys over in the UK pay a lot for gas (pretty much everywhere but the states), but I have something to tell you. WE IN THE STATES ARE NOT USED TO PAYING THIS MUCH!!! Stop griping to us about our complaining when we're used to a certain quality of life, and when gas prices take a 50% hike in a matter of a month, that changes what we're used to. You guys overseas are used to paying the high prices, and those high prices are largely in reason to the amount of taxes on them. That said,

The oil companies are feeling us out to see what we're willing to pay. There's absolutely no valid reason for how our gas prices have been raising recently. I've seen plenty of excuses thrown out, but no real reasons. I personally believe we need federal regulation of the petroleum industry here in the states to keep this incessant price gouging going. It's already being looked at in the natural gas sector, so hopefully it's only a matter of time before it hits the oil compaines too. Just give it a few more weeks until the oil companies start posting their rather large profits again and the government will start turning an eye towards them and they'll back off like what happened last fall.



Fastbird I didn't mean to be against anybody here at all (That was just for your info, if you don't want "global information" let us know wink.gif biggrin.gif ). There are just one fact I don't understand. If fall production of coal-oil (because of some hurricane or something like this.), price of gas grow in Europe instantly for 1/4 of dollar per gallon. So if in the US some havoc happened , I know my gas will be more expensive here in EU... And last year was really something...


Trust me when I say that boggles my mind also. You could sum it up to how many world markets are based off of the U.S. market, but that still shouldn't hold down to gas prices. Last year was probably a case of the oil companies doing their part to line their pockets. They were SCREAMING about a shortage if you remember due to lost rigs, low production, ect, because of the hurricane season in the Gulf of Mexico. And it's true, a refinery got schwacked, many rigs in the gulf were lost, BUT! When Exxon-Mobil posts 9 BILLION 3rd quarter profits, something ain't right. That pinch was felt world wide.


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QUOTE(Mr_E @ Apr 19, 2006 - 1:17 PM) [snapback]423401[/snapback]

QUOTE(malpaso @ Apr 19, 2006 - 6:36 AM) [snapback]423341[/snapback]
Some numbers from Europe:


1 liter of 95 octane Super Plus costs 1.07€... someone may say "wow it's cheap"... but not be over hasty for conclusions, here is recomputation to US gallons and USD:

1 european liter is 0.264 US gallon -> 1US gallon is 3.79 liters, so for one US gallon of fuel I pay 4.04€ here...
That's 4.85USD for 1US gallon of 95 octane Super Plus!!! (I belive "Super Plus" means "unleaded gas" biggrin.gif )

So smile and be happy you are not pay European prices wink.gif


Hurrah. Someone is aware there is a place called "Not America".

Last time I filled the car up, it was over £50. That's what, $80? Something like that. I did 218 miles on that fuel. That's what, 37 cents a mile. Every mile. In fuel alone.....

Seriously, if you live in the US, you wouldn't know expensive fuel if a tanker load of it ran you over.


+1 Here
I pay about 1,40 euro for 1 liter 95 Fuel. I almost pay 100 dollar to fill up the gas tank.


QUOTE(Fastbird @ Apr 19, 2006 - 2:48 PM) [snapback]423427[/snapback]

The oil companies are feeling us out to see what we're willing to pay. There's absolutely no valid reason for how our gas prices have been raising recently. I've seen plenty of excuses thrown out, but no real reasons. I personally believe we need federal regulation of the petroleum industry here in the states to keep this incessant price gouging going. It's already being looked at in the natural gas sector, so hopefully it's only a matter of time before it hits the oil compaines too. Just give it a few more weeks until the oil companies start posting their rather large profits again and the government will start turning an eye towards them and they'll back off like what happened last fall.


Thats also happening here. You dont here me complaining! About the prices.


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One thing is really interesting (for me). Information of octane number.

EU use 95,98 and 100 octane gas, but I see US has 87,89 and 91 octane gas... For same engines! Or I missed something?


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here in the Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada region the prices this morning were as follows (math was done quickly and figures were rounded up to the nearest penny)





octane 87 = 1.17$CDN/l...4.50$CDN/USgal...5.10$US/gal

octane 89 = 1.21$CDN/l...4.65$CDN/USgal...5.29$US/gal

octane 92 = 1.25$CDN/l...4.81$CDN/USgal...5.46$US/gal



figure for a tank running on empty taking 55l and running octane 92 = 68.75$CDN per fillup every 5 days depending on driving style ans weather conditions.









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QUOTE(playr158 @ Apr 19, 2006 - 9:41 AM) [snapback]423453[/snapback]

QUOTE(Fastbird @ Apr 19, 2006 - 8:48 AM) [snapback]423427[/snapback]

I realize you guys over in the UK pay a lot for gas (pretty much everywhere but the states), but I have something to tell you. WE IN THE STATES ARE NOT USED TO PAYING THIS MUCH!!! Stop griping to us about our complaining when we're used to a certain quality of life, and when gas prices take a 50% hike in a matter of a month, that changes what we're used to. You guys overseas are used to paying the high prices, and those high prices are largely in reason to the amount of taxes on them. That said,

The oil companies are feeling us out to see what we're willing to pay. There's absolutely no valid reason for how our gas prices have been raising recently. I've seen plenty of excuses thrown out, but no real reasons. I personally believe we need federal regulation of the petroleum industry here in the states to keep this incessant price gouging going. It's already being looked at in the natural gas sector, so hopefully it's only a matter of time before it hits the oil compaines too. Just give it a few more weeks until the oil companies start posting their rather large profits again and the government will start turning an eye towards them and they'll back off like what happened last fall.



ok lets all go back to ECONOMICS 101...

gas just like anyother world commodity has a DEMAND and a SUPPLY

now with prices on the "Y" axis and quantity on the "X" axis (just like every other supply and demand graph)
IPB Image
the BLACK lines are your base graph D=demand S= Supply
now when we demand more gas the Demand curve shifts UP (meaning we want more gas aka using more)
so this new increase in demand is our redline...
NOTICE
demand goes up SUPPLY gets less...
why? because your using more DUH!

what happens when you demand more and use it up
the PRICE goes up! as you can see in the new position on the red line

so stop your stupid ignorant bitching about the government and greedy gas station owners....
if you want prices to go down... STOP USING GAS
thus the DEMAND goes down SUPPLY increases and PRICES FALL


~class dismissed


Let's go back to class then. Demand doesn't go up 50% in a single month.


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This was just suppose to be a compairing local prices thing, not an arguement over who pays more, and who shouldnt complain. You are all trying to get this thread closed.


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QUOTE(devilsden97 @ Apr 19, 2006 - 10:31 AM) [snapback]423472[/snapback]

This was just suppose to be a compairing local prices thing, not an arguement over who pays more, and who shouldnt complain. You are all trying to get this thread closed.


My bad. Back on topic.

Here in NJ what I'm seeing is ~2.70ish for regular and ~2.90ish for supreme. Local Wawa has 2.73-2.83-2.93 breakdown this morning as I went by.


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QUOTE(Fastbird @ Apr 19, 2006 - 1:48 PM) [snapback]423427[/snapback]
but I have something to tell you. WE IN THE STATES ARE NOT USED TO PAYING THIS MUCH!!!


Tough. Get used to it. It's a non renewable resource, mainly produced by a cartel in an unstable region. The price is only going to go one way.


QUOTE(Fastbird @ Apr 19, 2006 - 1:48 PM) [snapback]423427[/snapback]

Stop griping to us about our complaining when we're used to a certain quality of life, and when gas prices take a 50% hike in a matter of a month, that changes what we're used to.


Damn. And how dare world politics and a little thing like the future energy sources for the entire species actually affect your quality of life..... I mean, it's not like it's important or anything.

QUOTE(Fastbird @ Apr 19, 2006 - 1:48 PM) [snapback]423427[/snapback]

You guys overseas are used to paying the high prices, and those high prices are largely in reason to the amount of taxes on them.



Mmmm. Tax indeed. Do you really want the Government to dictate fuel cost to you, because it happens here and the result is 300-400% tax on anything that fuels a car. Oh, and then we pay 17.5% tax on top of that.

When the crude oil price goes up a bit, the cost of fuel goes up a *lot*.

QUOTE(malpaso @ Apr 19, 2006 - 2:47 PM) [snapback]423459[/snapback]
One thing is really interesting (for me). Information of octane number.

EU use 95,98 and 100 octane gas, but I see US has 87,89 and 91 octane gas... For same engines! Or I missed something?


Yup - you're missing the simple answer. US and Europe measure Octane slightly differently. We use RON, you use MON. MON is slightly more consistant I think.


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QUOTE(Fastbird @ Apr 19, 2006 - 10:18 AM) [snapback]423467[/snapback]

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QUOTE(Fastbird @ Apr 19, 2006 - 8:48 AM) [snapback]423427[/snapback]

I realize you guys over in the UK pay a lot for gas (pretty much everywhere but the states), but I have something to tell you. WE IN THE STATES ARE NOT USED TO PAYING THIS MUCH!!! Stop griping to us about our complaining when we're used to a certain quality of life, and when gas prices take a 50% hike in a matter of a month, that changes what we're used to. You guys overseas are used to paying the high prices, and those high prices are largely in reason to the amount of taxes on them. That said,

The oil companies are feeling us out to see what we're willing to pay. There's absolutely no valid reason for how our gas prices have been raising recently. I've seen plenty of excuses thrown out, but no real reasons. I personally believe we need federal regulation of the petroleum industry here in the states to keep this incessant price gouging going. It's already being looked at in the natural gas sector, so hopefully it's only a matter of time before it hits the oil compaines too. Just give it a few more weeks until the oil companies start posting their rather large profits again and the government will start turning an eye towards them and they'll back off like what happened last fall.



ok lets all go back to ECONOMICS 101...

gas just like anyother world commodity has a DEMAND and a SUPPLY

now with prices on the "Y" axis and quantity on the "X" axis (just like every other supply and demand graph)
IPB Image
the BLACK lines are your base graph D=demand S= Supply
now when we demand more gas the Demand curve shifts UP (meaning we want more gas aka using more)
so this new increase in demand is our redline...
NOTICE
demand goes up SUPPLY gets less...
why? because your using more DUH!

what happens when you demand more and use it up
the PRICE goes up! as you can see in the new position on the red line

so stop your stupid ignorant bitching about the government and greedy gas station owners....
if you want prices to go down... STOP USING GAS
thus the DEMAND goes down SUPPLY increases and PRICES FALL


~class dismissed


Let's go back to class then. Demand doesn't go up 50% in a single month.


the cheapest i've bought premium for my turbo is 2.33$ in the last year or so

so we'll use that saying that its 3.00$ at highest right now
thats a 23% increase in price.....now that does not reflect the ACTUAL increase in demand
but 23% is not that much...and thats on the EXTREMES

This post has been edited by playr158: Apr 19, 2006 - 10:32 AM
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filled up at moblie 91 octane $3.17.....i wish i could put 87 in the Z...but if you think about it the price difference between 87 and 91 youre really only saving about 2 dollars...no big deal


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well i got to work at 830 am and gas was 2.61 for cheap stuff. Its not 1247pm and gas is now 2.91?? Now I know nothing has happened in the 4 hours I have been at work...WTF?? Oil companies are raping us hard...man I'd love to meet an Exxon Mobil oil exec and give him a piece of mind and a fist if it were allowed...

I mean come on my pucker hurts way more than that one....opps tongue.gif
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not to change the topic, but, how about the price of tires?

Falken ZIEX ZE 512 (4) 225/45/17 with balancing, valve stems, and all that $611.25<---YIKES! (i paid it though laugh.gif )

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QUOTE(playr158 @ Apr 19, 2006 - 11:31 AM) [snapback]423499[/snapback]
the cheapest i've bought premium for my turbo is 2.33$ in the last year or so

so we'll use that saying that its 3.00$ at highest right now
thats a 23% increase in price.....now that does not reflect the ACTUAL increase in demand
but 23% is not that much...and thats on the EXTREMES


A month ago I was paying right at $2.00 a gallon in southern jersey. I've seen several places that are over $3.00 a gallon now.

I also just noticed that on base the prices went from 2.79 to 2.87 for premium since yesterday afternoon. Looks like the NJ Turnpike is the cheapest at $2.80 for premium, for the next couple of days at least.


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2.80$ on the TP where!!!!

i'm on my way to jersey city friday and VA is like 3$
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QUOTE(devilsden97 @ Apr 19, 2006 - 6:09 PM) [snapback]423530[/snapback]
not to change the topic, but, how about the price of tires?

Falken ZIEX ZE 512 (4) 225/45/17 with balancing, valve stems, and all that $611.25<---YIKES! (i paid it though laugh.gif )


4 x 225/40ZR18 extra load Eagle F1 GSD03. Almost $900.


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QUOTE(Mr_E @ Apr 19, 2006 - 5:15 PM) [snapback]423644[/snapback]

QUOTE(devilsden97 @ Apr 19, 2006 - 6:09 PM) [snapback]423530[/snapback]
not to change the topic, but, how about the price of tires?

Falken ZIEX ZE 512 (4) 225/45/17 with balancing, valve stems, and all that $611.25<---YIKES! (i paid it though laugh.gif )


4 x 225/40ZR18 extra load Eagle F1 GSD03. Almost $900.


was going to get those till they told me there were $200+ a tire


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$3.01 for 92 octane this morning.... BLAHHHH am i sure i want to up the boost? :-/ ........... YEP! biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(Mr_E @ Apr 19, 2006 - 5:26 PM) [snapback]423497[/snapback]

QUOTE(malpaso @ Apr 19, 2006 - 2:47 PM) [snapback]423459[/snapback]
One thing is really interesting (for me). Information of octane number.

EU use 95,98 and 100 octane gas, but I see US has 87,89 and 91 octane gas... For same engines! Or I missed something?


Yup - you're missing the simple answer. US and Europe measure Octane slightly differently. We use RON, you use MON. MON is slightly more consistant I think.


Mr_E thank you, you hit the spot! FYI see this wink.gif

Measurement methods

The most common type of octane rating worldwide is the Research Octane Number (RON). RON is determined by running the fuel through a specific test engine with a variable compression ratio under controlled conditions, and comparing these results with those for mixtures of isooctane and n-heptane.

There is another type of octane rating, called Motor Octane Number (MON), which is a better measure of how the fuel behaves when under load. MON testing uses a similar test engine to that used in RON testing, but with a preheated fuel mixture, a higher engine speed, and variable ignition timing to further stress the fuel's knock resistance. Depending on the composition of the fuel, the MON of a modern gasoline will be about 8 to 10 points lower than the RON. Normally fuel specifications require both a minimum RON and a minimum MON.

In most countries (including all of Europe and Australia) the "headline" octane that would be shown on the pump is the RON, but in the United States and some other countries the headline number is the average of the RON and the MON, sometimes called the Anti-Knock Index (AKI), Road Octane Number (RdON), Pump Octane Number (PON), or (R+M)/2. Because of the 10 point difference noted above, this means that the octane in the United States will be about 4 to 5 points lower than the same fuel elsewhere: 87 octane fuel, the "normal" gasoline in the US and Canada, would be 91 in Europe.

The octane rating may also be a "trade name", with the actual figure being higher than the nominal rating.

It is possible for a fuel to have a RON greater than 100, because isooctane is not the most knock-resistant substance available. Racing fuels, straight ethanol, Avgas and liquified petroleum gas (LPG) typically have octane ratings of 110 or significantly higher. Typical "octane booster" additives include tetra-ethyl lead and toluene. Tetra-ethyl lead is easily decomposed to its component radicals, which react with the radicals from the fuel and oxygen that would start the combustion, thereby delaying ignition.


BTW: I was bit confused because of one part of your answer "We use RON, you use MON" couse I'm from Europe laugh.gif, but now is everithig clear wink.gif biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(devilsden97 @ Apr 19, 2006 - 4:31 PM) [snapback]423472[/snapback]

This was just suppose to be a compairing local prices thing, not an arguement over who pays more, and who shouldnt complain. You are all trying to get this thread closed.


You are right... We need to realize that we have chance to get knowledge of something. For example:

- which price you must pay for fuel around the world
- how is measured octan number (and that there is difference between US and EU)
- differents between units
- practise in English language biggrin.gif

That's why I'm here almost every day. These forums are perfect place for this...

p.s.: I hope this post will not be ridiculous for you laugh.gif




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just filled up tonight in Van Nuys, CA at a chevron station

$3.25 a gallon for 91 octane

at least my wrx gets 20+ mpg every tank, its usually about 23mpg


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QUOTE(malpaso @ Apr 20, 2006 - 7:00 AM) [snapback]423872[/snapback]

BTW: I was bit confused because of one part of your answer "We use RON, you use MON" couse I'm from Europe laugh.gif , but now is everithig clear wink.gif biggrin.gif


Whoops. Sorry man. I just assumed and shouldn't have.


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6.04 a gallon here, but it's the swedish governements fault, first we've got massive amounts of different taxes plus VAT on the gas and VAT on the fu***** taxes mad.gif


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Gas was so awesome when it was like $15-$20 to fill up your tank. Now it costs me at least $35.

Springdale Sheetz, 87 Octane- $2.95/gallon


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1.209$CDN per litre for Octane 87 as of 2 pm today...do the math I'm too depressed to retain numbers.



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it's 2.79 for 87 octane. ::sigh:: my jeep gets 16.9 miles per gallon. damn i miss my celica.

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QUOTE(playr158 @ Apr 19, 2006 - 10:31 AM) [snapback]423499[/snapback]

QUOTE(Fastbird @ Apr 19, 2006 - 10:18 AM) [snapback]423467[/snapback]

QUOTE(playr158 @ Apr 19, 2006 - 9:41 AM) [snapback]423453[/snapback]

QUOTE(Fastbird @ Apr 19, 2006 - 8:48 AM) [snapback]423427[/snapback]

I realize you guys over in the UK pay a lot for gas (pretty much everywhere but the states), but I have something to tell you. WE IN THE STATES ARE NOT USED TO PAYING THIS MUCH!!! Stop griping to us about our complaining when we're used to a certain quality of life, and when gas prices take a 50% hike in a matter of a month, that changes what we're used to. You guys overseas are used to paying the high prices, and those high prices are largely in reason to the amount of taxes on them. That said,

The oil companies are feeling us out to see what we're willing to pay. There's absolutely no valid reason for how our gas prices have been raising recently. I've seen plenty of excuses thrown out, but no real reasons. I personally believe we need federal regulation of the petroleum industry here in the states to keep this incessant price gouging going. It's already being looked at in the natural gas sector, so hopefully it's only a matter of time before it hits the oil compaines too. Just give it a few more weeks until the oil companies start posting their rather large profits again and the government will start turning an eye towards them and they'll back off like what happened last fall.



ok lets all go back to ECONOMICS 101...

gas just like anyother world commodity has a DEMAND and a SUPPLY

now with prices on the "Y" axis and quantity on the "X" axis (just like every other supply and demand graph)
IPB Image
the BLACK lines are your base graph D=demand S= Supply
now when we demand more gas the Demand curve shifts UP (meaning we want more gas aka using more)
so this new increase in demand is our redline...
NOTICE
demand goes up SUPPLY gets less...
why? because your using more DUH!

what happens when you demand more and use it up
the PRICE goes up! as you can see in the new position on the red line

so stop your stupid ignorant bitching about the government and greedy gas station owners....
if you want prices to go down... STOP USING GAS
thus the DEMAND goes down SUPPLY increases and PRICES FALL


~class dismissed


Let's go back to class then. Demand doesn't go up 50% in a single month.


the cheapest i've bought premium for my turbo is 2.33$ in the last year or so

so we'll use that saying that its 3.00$ at highest right now
thats a 23% increase in price.....now that does not reflect the ACTUAL increase in demand
but 23% is not that much...and thats on the EXTREMES


thats actually a 31.3% increase.


QUOTE(dstrbcelica @ Apr 20, 2006 - 3:03 PM) [snapback]424098[/snapback]

it's 2.79 for 87 octane. ::sigh:: my jeep gets 16.9 miles per gallon. damn i miss my celica.

-dstrb



my jeep got about 14... thats why i bought a celica. lol.

Of course, on my last fillup, the celica only got 15.5... battery has been giving me problems lately. frown.gif
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I guess I did pretty well for myself this morning. I only paid $2.97 for 87.

I have slowly converted my heard of vehicles over to all Toyota except my motorcycle.

I had a Chevy K2500 4x4, extended cab, long bed truck. I just sold it because it was costing me way too much in fuel. I was only getting between 11-12 mpg with it. I used to do side work with it but I haven't been getting enough work to justify the cost of running the bohemeth.

I got a 93 Toyota 4x4 instead. I just about doubled my mileage.


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