 BEAMS in my Celica, older gen tho hehe |
 Jul 21, 2006 - 2:46 PM
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 Enthusiast  Joined Jun 18, '06 From Aruba Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)  |
Hey guys, first off don't flame me for this but i got a 5th gen Celica GT Convertible, so sue me....
BUT I shoe-horned a '98 BEAMS 3SGE into it.... pic-spam: http://bitcrusher.org/gallery/BEAMS-in-my-Celica more pics as I get further along. -------------------- Toyo'd, Eibach'd, Kayaba'd & BEAMS'd :D
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Jul 21, 2006 - 2:48 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 3, '04 From Hollywood, MD Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
nice job.. beams is such a sexy motor, i wonder if we could use that side feed TB on the 3sgte
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Jul 21, 2006 - 2:49 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Mar 17, '05 From The Netherlands Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Kewl
A Dutch Celica members is also going to do this with his (actually his girlfriends) 5th Gen Convertible. Gonna send him the pics 
-------------------- JDM Powerplant installed, BPU coming very soon!
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Jul 21, 2006 - 2:49 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jun 14, '05 Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
Good Job dude! No one should be flaming about this... I mean its still a Celica
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Jul 21, 2006 - 2:57 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 18, '06 From Aruba Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(Kadett @ Jul 21, 2006 - 2:49 PM) [snapback]459152[/snapback] Kewl A Dutch Celica members is also going to do this with his (actually his girlfriends) 5th Gen Convertible. Gonna send him the pics hey man, ja zeg alsie 5SFE of 3SFE motor heeft in NL dan past ie....S-Series mounts all the same. Verrekte geil ben ik van dat ding....hele avond lopen rukken over de fotos
-------------------- Toyo'd, Eibach'd, Kayaba'd & BEAMS'd :D
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Jul 21, 2006 - 2:58 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 17, '05 From The Netherlands Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(brianforster @ Jul 21, 2006 - 9:48 PM) [snapback]459151[/snapback] nice job.. beams is such a sexy motor, i wonder if we could use that side feed TB on the 3sgte Whole design is meant for high end rpm flow, dont think it would be optimal for a blown engine. The Caldina intake however is very nice and could be a lot better when routing a FMIC. -------------------- JDM Powerplant installed, BPU coming very soon!
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Jul 21, 2006 - 2:59 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 18, '06 From Aruba Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(brianforster @ Jul 21, 2006 - 2:48 PM) [snapback]459151[/snapback] nice job.. beams is such a sexy motor, i wonder if we could use that side feed TB on the 3sgte hey that TB i think will not fit, unless you can source the intake mani as well. ****er is large enough to swallow a small cat. Inner diameter of that TB is almost 3" i should measure it. All my motor-head bro's here are all flipping out about the size of the damned thing! -------------------- Toyo'd, Eibach'd, Kayaba'd & BEAMS'd :D
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Jul 21, 2006 - 3:04 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 18, '06 From Aruba Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(Kadett @ Jul 21, 2006 - 2:58 PM) [snapback]459162[/snapback] QUOTE(brianforster @ Jul 21, 2006 - 9:48 PM) [snapback]459151[/snapback] nice job.. beams is such a sexy motor, i wonder if we could use that side feed TB on the 3sgte Whole design is meant for high end rpm flow, dont think it would be optimal for a blown engine. The Caldina intake however is very nice and could be a lot better when routing a FMIC. exactly, though I do have a wild plan in the back of my mind about building a custom turbo setup for it....gonna have to figure out how to handly it with like an APEX'i PowerFC or something....that somewhere in the not so near future. the one thing I am doing battle with at this moment is to figure out the gauges cluster/dash wiring, I got the BEAMS gauges and the dash-wiring that goes with it, just gonna figure out in the next week or so how to wire it all in.....IF its even possible.... -------------------- Toyo'd, Eibach'd, Kayaba'd & BEAMS'd :D
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Jul 21, 2006 - 3:25 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 17, '05 From The Netherlands Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Turbo setup is a bit pointless on the VVTI engine. Unless you know what your doing and IIWY I would get a AEM.
About the wiring. Isn't the 5th gen still got a speedo with a cable instead of wiring? -------------------- JDM Powerplant installed, BPU coming very soon!
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Jul 21, 2006 - 3:39 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 14, '05 Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
yea 5GC is still cable.. I learned that when I was trying toyank the gauges off mine lol
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Jul 21, 2006 - 3:48 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 18, '06 From Aruba Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(Kadett @ Jul 21, 2006 - 3:25 PM) [snapback]459180[/snapback] Turbo setup is a bit pointless on the VVTI engine. Unless you know what your doing and IIWY I would get a AEM. About the wiring. Isn't the 5th gen still got a speedo with a cable instead of wiring? turbo gonna be a work in progress, I got a contact in japan right now, there are a number of turbo'ed Toyota Altezza's out there, basically the same engine & VVTi. 200hp should be enough for anyone, but i know i will last only a month or so before i go crazy and go into the block and get forged EVERYthing, drop the compression a little bit and stick in an SC61 precision turbo.....who knows..... 5th gen is cable operated, and it sucks when they get older they start to wobble around 20Mph or 40KM/h But the ECU also gets the same speed-signal from the transmission as all newer cars do....i think I know which cable it is too....i'll post it when I get it all figured out! -------------------- Toyo'd, Eibach'd, Kayaba'd & BEAMS'd :D
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Jul 22, 2006 - 11:12 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 18, '06 From Aruba Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Hey you guys wouldn't happen to have a Diagram of the Dash-Wiring by any chance would you?
-------------------- Toyo'd, Eibach'd, Kayaba'd & BEAMS'd :D
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Jul 22, 2006 - 11:19 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 17, '05 From The Netherlands Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Why didn't you go for a 3S-GTE in the first place. Would be cheaper in the long rong. Price of a Beams and ST205 front cut dont differ that much.
-------------------- JDM Powerplant installed, BPU coming very soon!
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Jul 22, 2006 - 4:19 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 18, '06 From Aruba Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(Kadett @ Jul 22, 2006 - 11:19 AM) [snapback]459495[/snapback] Why didn't you go for a 3S-GTE in the first place. Would be cheaper in the long rong. Price of a Beams and ST205 front cut dont differ that much. 3SGE BEAMS is just sexier -------------------- Toyo'd, Eibach'd, Kayaba'd & BEAMS'd :D
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Jul 22, 2006 - 5:07 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Apr 18, '05 From Calgary Currently Offline Reputation: 20 (100%) |
ask Outsider.. he's done the Beams swap on his celi.. i'm sure he's got all the diagrams needed for the swap.
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Jul 22, 2006 - 5:12 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jul 14, '03 From Jacksonville, FL Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
k, that's just hot as fk.
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Jul 23, 2006 - 6:20 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 17, '05 From The Netherlands Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(puretone @ Jul 22, 2006 - 11:19 PM) [snapback]459580[/snapback] QUOTE(Kadett @ Jul 22, 2006 - 11:19 AM) [snapback]459495[/snapback] Why didn't you go for a 3S-GTE in the first place. Would be cheaper in the long rong. Price of a Beams and ST205 front cut dont differ that much. 3SGE BEAMS is just sexier PowderCoat the Valve cover red and stick a Beams logo on it and your done 
-------------------- JDM Powerplant installed, BPU coming very soon!
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Jul 23, 2006 - 7:00 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jan 29, '06 From Kitchener, ON, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
hot damn!! that car's gonna fly!! such a lightweight body and a BEAMS!! nice empty engine compartment too! you relocating the battery to the trunk? or just haven't put it back in yet?
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Jul 24, 2006 - 9:29 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 17, '05 From The Netherlands Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(celicurr @ Jul 24, 2006 - 2:00 AM) [snapback]459912[/snapback] hot damn!! that car's gonna fly!! such a lightweight body and a BEAMS!! nice empty engine compartment too! you relocating the battery to the trunk? or just haven't put it back in yet? Lightweight body???? Cars weights more then a hatchback because its a convertible. -------------------- JDM Powerplant installed, BPU coming very soon!
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Jul 24, 2006 - 11:17 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 30, '04 From So Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 13 (100%) |
I agress.... Beams is such a sexy motor!
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Jul 24, 2006 - 12:23 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 29, '06 From Kitchener, ON, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
not much more though...
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Jul 27, 2006 - 5:32 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 18, '06 From Aruba Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
5th gen dash wiring into 6th gen dash wiring is hell!@
-------------------- Toyo'd, Eibach'd, Kayaba'd & BEAMS'd :D
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Aug 2, 2006 - 4:03 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 21, '05 From Cyprus Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
yeaaaa guysss...beams is veryy sexyyy and really fastttt!!
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Aug 2, 2006 - 4:06 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 21, '05 From dallas Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
How fast?
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Aug 2, 2006 - 4:12 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 6, '06 Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
...okay i feel retarted....but what is this ''Beams'' thing...adn whats so good about it?
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Aug 2, 2006 - 4:22 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 21, '05 From dallas Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
Look at his engine. 200hp VVTI redlines at 7200 i think. And guess who has one.
 BTW, Man does anyone know if a GT exhaust piping lines up to a BEAMS motor directly? This post has been edited by sugarfree: Aug 2, 2006 - 4:32 PM |
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Aug 8, 2006 - 6:24 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 18, '06 From Aruba Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(sugarfree @ Aug 2, 2006 - 4:22 PM) [snapback]464654[/snapback] Look at his engine. 200hp VVTI redlines at 7200 i think. And guess who has one. BTW, Man does anyone know if a GT exhaust piping lines up to a BEAMS motor directly? i does, but i would use the BEAMS 4 into 2 into 2 on the intermediate pipe, this engine flows ALOT of air. 3S & 5S manifolds are practically the same across the 5th & 6th gens -------------------- Toyo'd, Eibach'd, Kayaba'd & BEAMS'd :D
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Aug 14, 2006 - 10:03 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined May 16, '06 From Perth, Australia Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Hey matey nice to see others are putting this into a 5th gen as well!
My swap is already completed so feel free to check out the complete writeup here: BEAMS Red Top Conversion Into ST184 Write-Up Happy to help out!! -------------------- WAYNO FX - Alive & Screaming In 2006!!!
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Aug 14, 2006 - 3:24 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 18, '05 From BANNED Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Dont really see the point to going NA on a celica swap but good luck with it... although I would love to have that manifold and valve cover haha.
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Sep 5, 2006 - 8:53 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 18, '06 From Aruba Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
hey, big time help needed from the power of the forum!
do any of you have the ST205/ST215 wiring diagrams scanned or saved in a digital image????? SS-III ST205 or the Caldina ST215 3SGE Redtop/Greytop.....im in serious need of it in a really bad way.....HELP! -------------------- Toyo'd, Eibach'd, Kayaba'd & BEAMS'd :D
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Sep 6, 2006 - 12:12 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jun 1, '03 From WV Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
QUOTE(puretone @ Aug 8, 2006 - 7:24 PM) [snapback]466826[/snapback] QUOTE(sugarfree @ Aug 2, 2006 - 4:22 PM) [snapback]464654[/snapback] Look at his engine. 200hp VVTI redlines at 7200 i think. And guess who has one. BTW, Man does anyone know if a GT exhaust piping lines up to a BEAMS motor directly? i does, but i would use the BEAMS 4 into 2 into 2 on the intermediate pipe, this engine flows ALOT of air. 3S & 5S manifolds are practically the same across the 5th & 6th gens The 3sge from a 6th gen is a lot different than one from a 5th gen. Different heades on them. The 6th is wider, so the manifolds don't bolt up. The 3sge's and 3sgte's from 5th gens are the ones you want if you want the manifold to bolt up to the 5sfe motor. -------------------- Live Free, Be Happy
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Sep 6, 2006 - 3:39 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jun 19, '05 From Nebraska Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
QUOTE(burneeed @ Aug 14, 2006 - 3:24 PM) [snapback]468919[/snapback] Dont really see the point to going NA on a celica swap but good luck with it... although I would love to have that manifold and valve cover haha. dude its a BEAMS. it is the lord of NA. I want one so bad. -------------------- Teh Celica sleeps for Winter '06. Suspension overhaul begins........
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Sep 8, 2006 - 5:08 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 18, '06 From Aruba Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
on a side note:
ITS ALIVE!! ITS ALIVE!! IT CAME ALIVE TODAY!! THE SOUND IS AMAZING!! -------------------- Toyo'd, Eibach'd, Kayaba'd & BEAMS'd :D
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Sep 8, 2006 - 1:42 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Apr 17, '06 From New Jersey Currently Offline Reputation: 105 (100%) |
congrats !!!
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Sep 15, 2006 - 4:51 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 18, '06 From Aruba Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
/me whistles evil-march-sound from starwars
-------------------- Toyo'd, Eibach'd, Kayaba'd & BEAMS'd :D
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Dec 12, 2006 - 6:16 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 18, '06 From Aruba Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Okay my kiddies, here is the BlackTop (SXE10 Toyota Altezza) PIN-outs, some wiring and codes.....they should for some part be similar for our RedTop-rigs, the PIN-outs def are a huge help for me....then there are the sexy wave-forms....i know WFX will like these as well...if anything they are reallllly handy!
Enjoy, however you would do that with a PDF, oh and use Foxit PDF Reader, im declaring a holy-war on Adobe :devil: http://bitcrusher.org/3S-GE_Codes_List.pdf http://bitcrusher.org/3S-GE_ECU_PINOUT.pdf http://bitcrusher.org/3S-GE_Wiring_Diagram.pdf -------------------- Toyo'd, Eibach'd, Kayaba'd & BEAMS'd :D
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Dec 12, 2006 - 9:32 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 2, '05 From Guam Currently Offline Reputation: 15 (100%) |
Don't waste the motor, that is a pure NA motor to begin with, raw power. Go out and take out all the integras and show them the truth behind celicas.
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Dec 16, 2006 - 5:55 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 18, '06 From Aruba Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(trdproven @ Dec 12, 2006 - 9:32 AM) [snapback]509865[/snapback] Don't waste the motor, that is a pure NA motor to begin with, raw power. Go out and take out all the integras and show them the truth behind celicas. i ran out of Integras to outrun....  2T starlet/corola/whatevs also ran out of those to outrun.... i got close to really giving a supra owner a run for his money, but i ran out of island....not enough long roads here.... EVERYONE is like "WTF????" at me, followed by "pop that hood we wanna see this BEAMS business" -------------------- Toyo'd, Eibach'd, Kayaba'd & BEAMS'd :D
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Dec 16, 2006 - 11:26 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jul 7, '06 From Los Alamos, NM Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
QUOTE(puretone @ Dec 16, 2006 - 5:55 AM) [snapback]510955[/snapback] i ran out of Integras to outrun.... 2T starlet/corola/whatevs also ran out of those to outrun.... i got close to really giving a supra owner a run for his money, but i ran out of island....not enough long roads here.... EVERYONE is like "WTF????" at me, followed by "pop that hood we wanna see this BEAMS business" that makes me want a BEAMS!
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Dec 16, 2006 - 11:48 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From Kelowna, BC Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Welcome to the club.
Amazing feeling isn't it? --------------------  1994 GT-S (BEAMS) swap complete |
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Dec 16, 2006 - 5:18 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Oct 28, '02 From Europe, Lithuania Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
QUOTE(Outsider @ Dec 16, 2006 - 9:48 AM) [snapback]510983[/snapback] Welcome to the club. Amazing feeling isn't it? yes it does But its not enouth for me yea know -------------------- Ex celica owner - just a guy from other side of the pond...
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Dec 19, 2006 - 7:21 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Feb 19, '05 From leicester, England Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I love my BEAMS too. Still aint got the Rev counter working tho. Big thanks to outsider for his help.
here she is in all her glory!!  Kev -------------------- Gen 6 Celica in Red with VVTI Beams engine, lowered 40mm, front and rear strut braces, asia tec 17 inch alloys, avon ZZ2 tyres, Rage Back box and a decat, JDM rear lights, red bits on the dash and clock shroud and a DVD player.
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Dec 21, 2006 - 4:23 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Nov 7, '06 From Houston, Tx Currently Offline Reputation: 17 (100%) |
QUOTE(UKcelicaKev @ Dec 19, 2006 - 7:21 PM) [snapback]511760[/snapback] I love my BEAMS too. Still aint got the Rev counter working tho. Big thanks to outsider for his help. here she is in all her glory!! Kev That is just dead sexy. -------------------- -Alex {](O_o)[}
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Dec 22, 2006 - 11:16 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jan 28, '05 From Redondo Beach, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 86 (100%) |
one of these days im gonna have one too
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