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post Aug 4, 2006 - 1:43 PM
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so yea...wheelspin all thru 1st and 2nd gear makes for a cool show for your friends...but super slow times at the track.
so, with that in mind (and the aweful though of ripping thru a set of michelins @ 175$ea..) i went ahead and ordered these:
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yup, BFG's wink.gif 225/50/15 smile.gif
contact patch is a tiny bit over 9"
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that alone should have a nice effect on traction, never mind the nice sticky compound. biggrin.gif

a couple more of the tread pattern, and sidewall.
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i figure if hyde can run 1.4 60ft. times with them, i should at least be able to improve traction somewhatlol
if all goes as planned, i'll be seeing what the 5SFTE can do with TRACTION @ englishtown on the 18th
ill be installing them on a set of stockers, and starting them @ ~20psi, lowering by a lb or 2 each run, till the 60's dont improve anymore.
comments? sugesstions? discuss! smile.gif


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post Aug 4, 2006 - 1:47 PM
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your going to love these!

my friend runs them on his MR2 as well and another on his TC they are amazing
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post Aug 4, 2006 - 1:48 PM
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nice !!
I hope I can make it to englishtowm, I'll be working 'till 4 pm so I''l do my best to see you run your celi there.

nice buy !!


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they look AWESOME Manny! we will definitely go to the track on the 18th, I can't wait to see how much your times improve thumbsup.gif


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post Aug 4, 2006 - 1:54 PM
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QUOTE(playr158 @ Aug 4, 2006 - 2:47 PM) [snapback]465457[/snapback]

your going to love these!

my friend runs them on his MR2 as well and another on his TC they are amazing
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yea dan, from what ive read, everyone who uses them seems to like them, and they seem to work well.
we'll see what they do for me here in a couple weeks!

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nice !!
I hope I can make it to englishtowm, I'll be working 'till 4 pm so I''l do my best to see you run your celi there.
nice buy !!

they look AWESOME Manny! we will definitely go to the track on the 18th, I can't wait to see how much your times improve

hope to see ya there man!
hehe steff, yea, it should be fun!


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post Aug 4, 2006 - 1:56 PM
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I only read good things about these, get some results in and I might be next in line to purchase them.
How wide are your wheels btw?


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QUOTE(CilverSeliST205 @ Aug 4, 2006 - 2:56 PM) [snapback]465467[/snapback]

I only read good things about these, get some results in and I might be next in line to purchase them.
How wide are your wheels btw?

they will be mounted on stock 15X7 rims.
the tires are made to fit 6-8" rims.


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you should spray the stockers black to kinda match your other wheels. + they are kind of crappy and chipping anyway....then again, im sure you could care less tongue.gif


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post Aug 4, 2006 - 2:27 PM
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If you don't mind me asking, How much did you pay for both?
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dang... those look sweet. how much do they cost per tire in that size?




QUOTE(hurley97 @ Aug 4, 2006 - 3:23 PM) [snapback]465484[/snapback]

you should spray the stockers black to kinda match your other wheels. + they are kind of crappy and chipping anyway....then again, im sure you could care less tongue.gif


spray painting stock wheels just makes you look like your hubcaps fell off. i never liked that look.

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post Aug 4, 2006 - 2:36 PM
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those are the same tires i have...great traction


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post Aug 4, 2006 - 2:41 PM
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Looks nice Manny. I will be looking forward to a full report on the traction improvement.

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i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
post Aug 4, 2006 - 2:55 PM
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the tires were 120ea.
they will be painted black to "sorta" match my wheels


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post Aug 4, 2006 - 5:10 PM
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I didnt know 225's would fit stock wheels.
post Aug 4, 2006 - 5:24 PM
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Nice tires Manny! I'm hoping for some real nice numbers with this sticky action. I cant wait to slap mine on :woot:


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post Aug 7, 2006 - 4:28 PM
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Nice rubber! That ish is going to grip like a mofo.

Can't wait to see it run again on the 18th. See you there, Manny and Jenn! thumbsup.gif


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post Aug 7, 2006 - 6:14 PM
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Those should do you good. I'd be interested to see how you do.....may come up to E-Town for that on the 18th. biggrin.gif

I'm thinking about a set of Mickey Thompson E.T. Street Radials for ours, same size. I'm just wary of breaking something in the stock 5S Tranny.


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post Aug 7, 2006 - 7:53 PM
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hopefully i get my FMIC all hooked up this week so i can join you guys at Etown. i gotta get some track time
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QUOTE(Fastbird @ Aug 7, 2006 - 7:14 PM) [snapback]466458[/snapback]

Those should do you good. I'd be interested to see how you do.....may come up to E-Town for that on the 18th. biggrin.gif

I'm thinking about a set of Mickey Thompson E.T. Street Radials for ours, same size. I'm just wary of breaking something in the stock 5S Tranny.

yea, thats a good idea man.
between you with the MT's me with the BFG's and jeff with the hoosiers, we'll have a good idea of what works on our cars.
i wouldnt worry about the tranny...the one thing i AM worried about is axles.
if all goes as planned, ill be bringing a set of axles with me as a "just in case" thing. lmao.
zipper, hope you can make it man!


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QUOTE(presure2 @ Aug 7, 2006 - 9:16 PM) [snapback]466526[/snapback]

QUOTE(Fastbird @ Aug 7, 2006 - 7:14 PM) [snapback]466458[/snapback]

Those should do you good. I'd be interested to see how you do.....may come up to E-Town for that on the 18th. biggrin.gif

I'm thinking about a set of Mickey Thompson E.T. Street Radials for ours, same size. I'm just wary of breaking something in the stock 5S Tranny.

yea, thats a good idea man.
between you with the MT's me with the BFG's and jeff with the hoosiers, we'll have a good idea of what works on our cars.
i wouldnt worry about the tranny...the one thing i AM worried about is axles.
if all goes as planned, ill be bringing a set of axles with me as a "just in case" thing. lmao.
zipper, hope you can make it man!


Well, I'm not going to have a set of MT's by the 18th unfortunately. I'd bolt up my 26x10.5x15 E.T. Streets but the wheels they're on don't have the right anything for the Celi. biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(Fastbird @ Aug 7, 2006 - 9:17 PM) [snapback]466527[/snapback]

QUOTE(presure2 @ Aug 7, 2006 - 9:16 PM) [snapback]466526[/snapback]

QUOTE(Fastbird @ Aug 7, 2006 - 7:14 PM) [snapback]466458[/snapback]

Those should do you good. I'd be interested to see how you do.....may come up to E-Town for that on the 18th. biggrin.gif

I'm thinking about a set of Mickey Thompson E.T. Street Radials for ours, same size. I'm just wary of breaking something in the stock 5S Tranny.

yea, thats a good idea man.
between you with the MT's me with the BFG's and jeff with the hoosiers, we'll have a good idea of what works on our cars.
i wouldnt worry about the tranny...the one thing i AM worried about is axles.
if all goes as planned, ill be bringing a set of axles with me as a "just in case" thing. lmao.
zipper, hope you can make it man!


Well, I'm not going to have a set of MT's by the 18th unfortunately. I'd bolt up my 26x10.5x15 E.T. Streets but the wheels they're on don't have the right anything for the Celi. biggrin.gif


ahh i see....yea, i think those may be just a "bit" large for the celi..lol



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a quick update:
got them mounted on the stock rims yesterday.
my 17" enkies + michelin pilot sport a/s 225/45's weigh 41lbs.
stock 15" rims and BFG DR's 225/50's weigh 39lbs.
i put them on, and with 30lbs of pressure in them, did a nice burnout and a few launches..
i had the camara with me, but i forgot to put the memory card in!!
needless to say, i cant launch @ 2000 rpm and expect to spin on these tires like the old falkens...lmao...i just bogged down. lmao...3000rpm was a little better, a little wheelspin, but not nearly as much as before, and thats with 30lbs in them! (bf goodrich recommends 14-20lbs for racing.)
initial impressions are VERY good, to say the least.
i cant wait to see how they are on the track! smile.gif


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Glad to hear you like them!

Guess you will have to get used to driving your car all over again. Can't wait to see what they will do at the track!


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the BFg's are great tire I have had both the BFG and the M/T ET street on my car and in my honest opinion I think that the ET's trac up alot better at the track,
BUT, at the cost of not gripping near as good on the street and they only lasted me 1/3 of the mileage that the BFG's did. Also the ET's do not grip at all if they come in contact with any water, as where the BFG's did grab OK if the roads get wet.

in short...
I think if you drive your car on them go with BFG
if you just trailer car to track or don't care about mileage and car hardly ever see's rain go M/T
just my experience
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QUOTE(dans_st @ Aug 15, 2006 - 10:59 PM) [snapback]469434[/snapback]

the BFg's are great tire I have had both the BFG and the M/T ET street on my car and in my honest opinion I think that the ET's trac up alot better at the track,
BUT, at the cost of not gripping near as good on the street and they only lasted me 1/3 of the mileage that the BFG's did. Also the ET's do not grip at all if they come in contact with any water, as where the BFG's did grab OK if the roads get wet.

in short...
I think if you drive your car on them go with BFG
if you just trailer car to track or don't care about mileage and car hardly ever see's rain go M/T
just my experience
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im not going to be driving these on the street. these are track only tires for me.
we'll see what happens, im heading up to New England Dragway this friday to see what we can do.
wish me luck! wink.gif


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QUOTE(presure2 @ Aug 16, 2006 - 12:00 PM) [snapback]469606[/snapback]

im not going to be driving these on the street. these are track only tires for me.
we'll see what happens, im heading up to New England Dragway this friday to see what we can do.
wish me luck! wink.gif

so guess what... I should be up there Thurs night wink.gif

maybe we can go to the track with you guys


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QUOTE(hurley97 @ Aug 16, 2006 - 1:10 PM) [snapback]469621[/snapback]

QUOTE(presure2 @ Aug 16, 2006 - 12:00 PM) [snapback]469606[/snapback]

im not going to be driving these on the street. these are track only tires for me.
we'll see what happens, im heading up to New England Dragway this friday to see what we can do.
wish me luck! wink.gif

so guess what... I should be up there Thurs night wink.gif

maybe we can go to the track with you guys

i was hoping that would be the case...im gonna need somewhere to put all my crap while we race..lol wink.gif


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ok, so i went to the track last night.
these tires are REALLY nice, from what i can tell.
the track was well prepped, as it turned out to be a huge ford weekend thing going on.
i only got in 2 runs, so the results are still on the early side, but heres how things went.
first a little review.
i had previously run on falken ziex 512's 215/45/17.
with ANY kind of launch at anything over 2000rpm, i would get massive wheelspin all thru 1st and 2nd.

last night, on the first run, i set the tires to 18.5psi, i launched around 2500RPM, and basicly had no wheelspin, and i bogged.
ran a 2.366 60ft. time, which equaled my best 60ft on street tires. still horrible tho. kindasad.gif
2nd run, i lowered the pressure to 16.5, launched between 2800-3000, got a tiny tiny bit of wheelspin, and instantly bogged again.
ran a 2.317 60ft.
im hoping to get back up there on a wensday night, so that i can get more runs in, and try and get some better results.
overall so far, i am VERY happy with them, just need to get some more practice!
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oh, and as a side-note. axles are fine!! WOOT!
hopfully they continue to hold! LMAO!!


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