Dream Swap, Read the Rules Options

[macavely]

Ok this post is about your dream swap with in the allowed rules ..

1. Can only be a inline 4
2. Can Not change the FWD of the car

MY Dream Swap

Engine : 3S-GE Black Top, Light weight Forged Crank Shaft, Forged Rods , Forged Pistons 12:1, Titanium Valve Springs , Valves, Ported and Polished Head, Cold Air Intake , Full Race Exhaust Head back, ECU Top Secret, 40 Shot of Nitrous.

I'll add more later..



Whats your

[celicaST]

i dont like your first rule. mine would be a 2grfe 3.5l v6. if i have to choose a i4, id go with an st205 3sgte.

[Bigmeanbulldog55]

reliable all motor 2zzge on pump gas

[j0e_p3t]

if it has to be a 4-banger... i guess the 6-speed 4a-ge blacktop would be easiest.

[bccentaur3]

I'd go with the 2ZZ motor 6 speed turbo'd with water injection and running 10 psi daily.

[zipstrips]

sr20det, the GTIR version too!

let the flameing begin!

[macavely]

sr20det, the GTIR version too!

let the flameing begin!

i like cross brand swaps.... I would love to some some some drop a K20 in a 6gc one day

[6th_celi_vert]

sr20det, the GTIR version too!

let the flameing begin!

i like cross brand swaps.... I would love to some some some drop a K20 in a 6gc one day

*Spits 'baccer juice*

"Or a Hemi"

[Valo666]

sr20det, the GTIR version too!

let the flameing begin!

i like cross brand swaps.... I would love to some some some drop a K20 in a 6gc one day

Ive been waiting for some one to swap a K20 into one of our cars. I think a K20 with a jackson supercharger with a big boost pulley, forged internals, port and polished, AEM fuel rail, Sard injectors, Skunk 2 headers and valve train peices, a 50shot of nitrous, 6speed would be fun

I built a guys car when i was working as a co-op student that was pushing 400BHP in his RSX as a daily driver. That thing was fun

[devilsden97]

I'd go with the 2ZZ motor 6 speed turbo'd with water injection and running 10 psi daily.

^ theres soooo many issues with the 2zz boosted...it wasnt designed for it. it comes highly tuned from kawisaki ( or yamaha...whoever) and boost is pretty hard on that motor.

[Bigmeanbulldog55]

I'd go with the 2ZZ motor 6 speed turbo'd with water injection and running 10 psi daily.

^ theres soooo many issues with the 2zz boosted...it wasnt designed for it. it comes highly tuned from kawisaki ( or yamaha...whoever) and boost is pretty hard on that motor.

RRRRRRRR, wrong answer. That's what I use to think too, but people have really been making it work lately. I didn't think they could, but they are. Everyone hated that motor at first. I read were the 1zzfe was a better platform for modifications. I stand by my original post though. But I would rather just keep the 5sfe more than anything. Swapping is just about pointless for the Celica, at least for how I use it.

[bccentaur3]

I'd go with the 2ZZ motor 6 speed turbo'd with water injection and running 10 psi daily.

^ theres soooo many issues with the 2zz boosted...it wasnt designed for it. it comes highly tuned from kawisaki ( or yamaha...whoever) and boost is pretty hard on that motor.

RRRRRRRR, wrong answer. That's what I use to think too, but people have really been making it work lately. I didn't think they could, but they are. Everyone hated that motor at first. I read were the 1zzfe was a better platform for modifications. I stand by my original post though. But I would rather just keep the 5sfe more than anything. Swapping is just about pointless for the Celica, at least for how I use it.

I am with you about sticking with the 5sfe. But I really like the 2ZZ motor mainly because of lift and people are making the motor work well with boost. People talk about the 1zz being better with boost, but you won't get as much power out of it compared to the 2zz motor.

[Coomer]

Honda K20 for me. That'd be a blast.

[bccentaur3]

Which K20 though? If it was the K series dealy, I'd go with a K24/K20A1 Frankenstien. Plus turbo.

This post has been edited by bccentaur3: Apr 8, 2007 - 11:48 PM

[shin]

I'd go with the 2ZZ motor 6 speed turbo'd with water injection and running 10 psi daily.

It's really unsafe to boost more than 8psi on the 2zz.. it's pretty vulnerable to boost with stock internals.

[BBoYRuGGeD]

would that dream swap of urs be for the tC mac?

for me i'd love to have a 3sgte under the hood, oh wait i have 1. YESS!! nah but i'd love to have another celi with a redtop 3sge in it.

bboy

[GTSOwner]

Twin screw supercharger on a 5sfe. Not for the gains, just that it isn't all that common.

[macavely]

would that dream swap of urs be for the tC mac?

for me i'd love to have a 3sgte under the hood, oh wait i have 1. YESS!! nah but i'd love to have another celi with a redtop 3sge in it.

bboy

lol Roel that would be for the Celi .. for the tC.. that would just be and motor rebuild and heavy boost.. lol .. i'm really loving my 2az

[uberschall]

If it had to be a toyota motor:
blacktop 3SGE and e153 lsd trans.

if i could choose anything, it would be a HARD choice between an SR20DET or a K24 with roller ITBs.

[macavely]

If it had to be a toyota motor:
blacktop 3SGE and e153 lsd trans.

if i could choose anything, it would be a HARD choice between an SR20DET or a K24 with roller ITBs.

great thing about this thread it can be an 4banger from any motor company .. GM. Ford, Honda , Toyota, Mitsubishi, BMW, VW .. ect..

[Drew-887]

I guess I would want a 4agze with a Sc14 supercharger.

[Kwanza26]

IMO... big turbos and superchargers that make a lot of power/torque are pretty obsolete in a FWD car. If you've ever raced a high torque FWD car... you never really get to touch the entire powerband because the cars are just too squirly in the corners to handle well with big torque. Understeer FTL.

That said... my idea set-up... K20A, custom tune, custom rods, custom pistons, would like at least 12:5 compression, ITB's, reinforced crank, cams that can make power upwards of 10K rpms, and a stronger tranny with a killer 2 way LSD.

[macavely]

IMO... big turbos and superchargers that make a lot of power/torque are pretty obsolete in a FWD car. If you've ever raced a high torque FWD car... you never really get to touch the entire powerband because the cars are just too squirly in the corners to handle well with big torque. Understeer FTL.

That said... my idea set-up... K20A, custom tune, custom rods, custom pistons, would like at least 12:5 compression, ITB's, reinforced crank, cams that can make power upwards of 10K rpms, and a stronger tranny with a killer 2 way LSD.

see this thread need more post like this..

[Hanyo]

my dream swap will be:

V6 engine with a 6 gear transmission, just to keep with the whole 6gc thing.

But to stick to the rules. I would say my idea swap will be a high rev'ing black top beams. Nothing can beat the itb at redline.

[Bigmeanbulldog55]

5sfe with custom cams, Full EMS, Injectors, Pistons to increase compression to about 11:1, peak power set at 6200rpm, ITBs, e152 trans with lightwieght flywheel, plus all supporting mods and other little things like pulleys and what not.

[95CelicaST]

My dream swap.... My celica with a Geo 1.0L 3 banger.... Stock..

On a serious note I would like to swap a 4A-GE 20V blacktop 6sp manual. Port and polish, valve job, new high comp pistons. Reinforced cranshaft. new valves and retainers, cams, velocity stacks, stage 3 clutch, lightweight flywheel etc.

[Valo666]

My dream swap.... My celica with a Geo 1.0L 3 banger.... Stock..

Why stay stock? U should buy my buddies turbo setup off his Geo..lol

[97lestyousay]

16v 4age formula atlantic, 6 speed, not real streetable.haha

[95CelicaST]

My dream swap.... My celica with a Geo 1.0L 3 banger.... Stock..

Why stay stock? U should buy my buddies turbo setup off his Geo..lol

Hell, why not two 3 bangers under the hood. One supercharged, the other turbo!

[playr158]

i would but a Hayabusa motor in my celica, with built up internals, running on a chain drive system, complete with a supercharger kit which boosts from 0 to 14,000RPM redline, upgraded ITBs, larger injectors
good HP#s and LTW!

This post has been edited by playr158: Apr 12, 2007 - 11:31 AM

[Negative]

I'm easy:
ST-205 3S-GTE with
Stock WTA IC
Boost controller
WI
AEM Wideband o2 sensor
SRI
Exhaust Manifold and Downpipe [mated to my existing exhaust]
All wired up to work with my SAFC-II and a full set of working gauges
E-153 Tranny with LSD
Upgraded axles
Big Brake kit
Done.
See - easy - I told you.

[Bigmeanbulldog55]

My dream swap.... My celica with a Geo 1.0L 3 banger.... Stock..

I'm running on a stock 5sfe is 3 cylinders right now. Man, this thing actually runs pretty good for just 3 cylinders. I can't wate to get that other one working.

[Shigexile]

hmmm maybe a 4g63 just because the ej20 is a boxer engine.

Plus, you can tune the bajeezus out of that thing... but not really a mitsu fan so after all i might just go with the sr20 (to cross companies)
...
BUT, i'm loyal to toyota the most so most likely a 3sgte. easiest out of the three too.
...
the only thing is that everybody is saying this so i might switch the turbo to a compressor... yeah... thats what my dream swap is...

a supercharged 3s-g(z)e?


This post has been edited by Shigexile: Apr 12, 2007 - 9:07 PM

[Negative]

Twin charged would be nice. I'm sure I could fab a bracket for the generic type SC's like the TRD one for the tC.

[Bigmeanbulldog55]

Sorry, but twin charging is pretty much pointless in a FWD. Drag racers can just us big turboes and not have problems. You can't get a FWD to hook up well enough to use that extra power off the bottom. Anything over 300hp in FWD is just a waste unless it's a strate up drag car.

[Negative]

Twin charge doesn't necessarily mean you have to be over 300WHP. I was thinking more for creating a car with no lag - nice full powerband throughout the rpm range. It can still be driven right so as not to just spin through 1st and 2nd gears. FWD is not that bad. besides it would be good in the twisties where the right amount of throttle [not just WOT all the time] makes our cars fairly exceptional. I have FR and MR people compliment my car all the time. It's about finesse - not balls to the walls 24/7.

[playr158]

even a low HP twin charge....the SC would spin 1st and 2nd no problem if a stock CT26 is going to spin them