5s-fe Options

[kylekonvicka]

will the 5s-fe engine drop directly into my st celica that currently has a 7a-fe? i didn't see this on the sticky so i figured i'd ask thanks

[hongkongnerdboy]

i think it does, since the st is just a smaller engine..

[k-weaver]

I think the motor mounts are different for the ST and GT...

[laff09]

you will need a new transmission from a gt 94-99, shifter cables, ecu, probably new axles, change motor mount position(not as hard as everyone makes it out to be, your drilling 2 holes...), gt throttle cable i believe, and rear disc conversion if you were doing a makeover to a gt. Might be some loose odds and ends here, but I think that is about it

[DEATH]

Might as well swap a 3S - the process is the same.

[D-Man]

x2 w/ death.

3s and 5s is the same motor, the 5s is basically (for ease of understanding) just "Bored out" a bit larger, boasting it's 2.2L.
The 7a is (still similar in most ways) yet different. Pretty much Laff09 sumed it up, and remember there will be a few extra hardware pieces required.
But for the money spent on the 5s, why not just get a 3s clip? a few dollars more; compared to a few hundred horses This is Houston buddy, you know people

This post has been edited by D-Man: Jun 24, 2008 - 9:02 AM

[Smaay]

i think the bore is the same, its just a longer stroke that makes it 2.2

[kylekonvicka]

i think the bore is the same, its just a longer stroke that makes it 2.2

yeah i was asking cause we can't find out what the hell is wrong with my 7a and i found a 5sfe for 550$ with 43k miles was just curious ty for the help

[D-Man]

i think the bore is the same, its just a longer stroke that makes it 2.2

I just said that for lack of better term.
I know for a fact that its just the interior size of the cylinder that makes a 3s or a 5s. exterior motor is identical

i think the bore is the same, its just a longer stroke that makes it 2.2

yeah i was asking cause we can't find out what the hell is wrong with my 7a and i found a 5sfe for 550$ with 43k miles was just curious ty for the help

That's a pretty damn good deal. If you dont buy it; i will

EDIT: any swap is going to be a pain; so do whatever is easiest on you. In this case a cheap, yet efficient N/A 5s seems to be an obvious choice. I'd say to go for it.

5s, FTW!!

This post has been edited by D-Man: Jun 24, 2008 - 3:17 PM

[laff09]

I don't see it as being cheap OR efficient.

[D-Man]

well, it's cheaper than i got my 5s for, plus with only 43,000 miles on it, I'd say it's a pretty good price.

But if you know where to pick up a 5s-fte or 3s-gte for less than $500; i'm all ears

This post has been edited by D-Man: Jun 24, 2008 - 3:36 PM

[laff09]

550 for the engine isnt a bad price, but he needs a lot more than just the engine

[D-Man]

Didn't you already explain this?

you will need a new transmission from a gt 94-99, shifter cables, ecu, probably new axles, change motor mount position(not as hard as everyone makes it out to be, your drilling 2 holes...), gt throttle cable i believe, and rear disc conversion if you were doing a makeover to a gt. Might be some loose odds and ends here, but I think that is about it

We dont even know what's included in his package. He may have a hook-up for the rest; or he may not. But if he can get some other premium prices like this 550 motor, than he shouldn't have any problem; yeah?

[_mikeE]

550 for the entire thing sounds too good to be true. Has to be only motor only w/o ecu and tranny and wire harness. Not sure if you can still use the 7a wire harness...

This post has been edited by _mikeE: Jun 24, 2008 - 4:30 PM

[D-Man]

That's what i think, but maybe kylekonvicka has hook-ups, maybe he can find these things cheap. This is Houston, after all Stuff comes up every day.

[monkey]

haha and the 5s and 3s are really "identical" the colling passages have a different route and the walls are thicker and stronger... no wear spot between cyl 2 and 3.... but you wont be boosting it so no wories there...

[kylekonvicka]

well i found all this for 1800 good deal?

Included Parts:
Engine
AWD Manual Transmission
ECU (computer)
Complete Harness Wiring
Complete Block
Intercooler
A/C Compressor
Alternator
Distributor
Intake Manifold
Power Steering Pump
Ignition Wires
Starter
Throttle Body
Exhaust Manifold
Fuel Rail
Injectors
Turbo Manifold(s)
Turbo Charger(s)
Pulleys Technical Specs:
Year: 90-93
Displacement: 1998cc
Compression Ratio: 8.5 : 1
Valve Train: 16 Val
Horsepower: 225hp @ 6000rpm
Torque: 224 lb-ft @ 3200rpm
Redline: 7200rpm

[_mikeE]

That is a pretty sweet deal, however...you have no use for the awd transmission. You'll have to either get the s54 (gt tranny) or the e153 (mr2 turbo tranny) but ifyou go with the mr2 tranny, you'll hve some work to do. But if you go with the s54 tranny, you'll have to get st205 flywheel, clutch, etc. Look up on the stickies..research is your friend!

[WALKER]

will the 5s-fe engine drop directly into my st celica that currently has a 7a-fe? i didn't see this on the sticky so i figured i'd ask thanks

To answer your original question. NO. The 7A is an "A" Series engine and therefore your car has the engine mounts for an "A" series engine. Easy swaps are 4A engines

Yes the 5S can be put into your ST, as it has been done before, but it does require more work to put in an S series engine. If you were putting in an "S" series engine than you might as well put in a 3S instead of a 5S.

In any case you will need to change ECU, etc.

This post has been edited by WALKER: Jun 25, 2008 - 11:01 AM

[laff09]

IT REQUIRES DRILLING 2 HOLES. If your down to do a swap, who cares about 15 minutes?
..anyway

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get er done and post some pics good luck.