racing chip? Options

[Candiiman]

which ones can i use ? which is the best

[blu94gt]

None. Unless you're meaning a piggy-back ecu or standalone system. Those "chips" and resistors will just cause problems by altering fuel mixtures inappropriately. A serious waste of money, anyone who thinks they've gained something from them is honestly full of crap.

[Candiiman]

ok... so what can i do so that my 95 st wont stop at 115mph?

[blu94gt]

ok... so what can i do so that my 95 st wont stop at 115mph?

get a new motor? Honestly, an ST isn't going to do much beyond 115 due to power limitations.

[Candiiman]

then theres no way to take off the gov. i heard it doesnt have one... but what about the piggy back and the stand alone .. can explain that too me/ please?

[ZGear]

Piggy back and stand alone are more turbo application specific. To get anything out of a 7afe, you'd have to swap out another a-series head. Otherwise swap a different motor.

[Candiiman]

what is IMO??? and how do i do that a-series head swap?

[relyks95gt]

so theres no computer/chip that can give us a little boost w/o boost lol

[ZGear]

IMO "In My Opinion"

Common A-series Toyota engines

4afe: 1.6 liter
7afe: 1.8 liter
4age: 1.6 liter
4agze: 1.6 liter supercharged

For more performance you would go with a 4age or a 4agze because of the stronger head design. Found in the early 1st gen mr2s, levins/corollas, and geo prism.

There's a few good threads about it if you search this website, especially nik's monster 7agte build.

http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=21831

Here's a 7afte "Celica ST Turbo"

http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showto...44&hl=7agte

A thread of a max potential 7afe full build

http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showto...7agte&st=80

Just to give you ideas and please use the search button. Also no, nothing in the world can increase your car's stock performance except a good maintainence tune-up. All these tornados, racing chip, resistors, etc....will not benefit your stock car. Just like saying that adding a huge carbon fiber racing wing will make my car fly. If you want "some as in little" performance gain....all bolt-ons; intake, header, and exhaust.

This post has been edited by ZGear: Mar 12, 2009 - 10:37 PM

[Dragondog]

zgear is right chips do not work they just confuse ur computer in thinking more air is going in to engin to force more gas and r other way round but the intake can only suck up so much air that if u confuse it ur gas mixture will be wrong witch IMO will slow u down not speed u up....noticing ur new to engins u should really research ur engin know it then research the engin head for a swap or convert to 7a-fte (your motor just turboed) or do a complete motor swap with one of thoes a series listed WITCH WILL REQUIRE MONEY AND TIME..............if u want a little more hp cheap and quick buy quad spark plugs (no flaming iv tested and it gives car potential r should i say it dose not lack any power) and wires and some fine tuning and exahst system......other then that research and enjoy the 6gen celica

[Candiiman]

how much is my motor turboed?

[sapience]

http://www.powerchipgroup.com

[ZGear]

If you're lucky, stock internals should hold 200hp. Roughly 8-9 psi daily driven and 12 psi max boost.

[Dragondog]

http://www.powerchipgroup.com

DOES NOTHING its all bs they just want money like i said u cant force any more air into intake wit out nos or turbo with just a chip

also as u may have noticed toyota is not an option....
http://www.powerchipgroup.com/interact/dat...asheets_one.asp

research the turbo kit man ull need more then just a turbo intercoolor downpipe ect search this fourm for 7a-FTE urs is 7a-fe add turbo and presto 7a-fte ull find ppl that have done it here in 6gc.net theyll have ur answers

edit: a quote from powerchip.... Each Powerchip program is developed to improved the performance at each throttle opening position, which means that if you even touch your foot lightly on the gas your engine will respond instantly.
OMG thats what ground wires r for thats y u buy the ground wire kit

quote....The performance gain is made possible by, and fully maximises the use of, high octane gasoline. State-of-art equipment is used to read and enhance the software program inside your vehicle's Electronic Control Unit (ECU), and tune the vehicle to suit the gasoline that you run in your vehicle. If you want the best performance improvement, you understand the importance of using the best gasoline, and a Powerchip to suit!

i was in a program once to identifi false advertizing and keywords to look for are STATE-OF-THE-ART equipment....anyway......

more quotes from powerchip.....Your home computer is similar to your car. It needs software to run, and it is only intelligent when the correct software is loaded. They both contain just digital instructions, but what they achieve is totally different... you can call that clever pragramming!

LMFAO powerchip is more like an ad ware and spy ware (anoying pop up and viruses)

quote from powerchip....... sheesh.......Getting extra performance is accomplished in the same way that ‘Hot Rodder’s” have achieved more power for decades: More ignition advance and more fuel is allowed to enter the engine.

like i said more fuel...........BUT WHAT ABOUT THE AIR U CANT FORCE MORE AIR INTO THE INTAKE WITH OUT USE OF TURBO OR NOS......if u have turbo again chip still useless cuz then ull be useing a piggyback r stand alone if useing nos well enuff said nos alone forces mixed air and gases into intake unless direct port then its forced into chamber....im spent

This post has been edited by Dragondog: Mar 12, 2009 - 3:34 AM

[MercuryFree]

4age: 2.0 liter
4agze: 2.0 liter supercharged

Errr, what?

[Candiiman]

So then what should i do???

[jimmykay]

1) start saving your pennies for either a swap or turboing what you've got.
2) research
3) research
4) research
5) start getting parts for whatever you find.

This post has been edited by jimmykay: Mar 12, 2009 - 8:11 AM

[blu94gt]

4age: 2.0 liter
4agze: 2.0 liter supercharged

Errr, what?

The 4agZe, the Z signifies that it is supercharged. So it's the same block and such as the 4age. It's like 3sge and 3sgte

So then what should i do???

Jimmykay is right, you need to do some research. There is no fast, cheap way to get power out of these cars. So you need to save your money and do a lot of research. Turbocharging your motor will probably end up costing you at least $2,000, and the prices goes up with swapping in different motors. the 4agze out of the 80's supercharged MR2's is a good choice for a swap.

[soulshadow]

4age: 2.0 liter
4agze: 2.0 liter supercharged

Errr, what?

Actually all 4AGE to date are all 1.6L
even the 4AGZE

[njccmd2002]

IBtL

CHIPS, DORITOS, NACHOS.

All those have been explained before, several threads. no, an st will never reach the speeds people want to see.

Those are gimmicks, and tricks. "i made a million dollars with the Johny system in one week"!!!, guess why, selling gimmicks and tricks.

You want real power, do as Jimmykay. research. Dont waste money. Swap engine or turbo. For that, use the search button.

[Sinyk]

Has there been a recent increase in the number of people looking to get instant power out of their Celicas on the forums? Feels like a couple a week trying to give it the ol Honda treatment.

[Dragondog]

........start by learning about ur own motor....if u dont know what it can cant do then it hopeless google the 7afe use the search button here on 6gc and type 7afe learn it then research swaps that can be done with the celica st reasearch those motor that can be droped in ur car then after knowing each including ur own decide what u wanna spend to add hp if u wann do a swap are if u wanna do a bolt on turbo for ur 7afe.......learn it man we cant just spoon feed u this stuff......if i knew anything bout the 7aFTE i would help u but the only direction i can point u is the top right connor THE SEARCH BUTTON.....i would even try to search it fo u but iv got my own research to do plus

This post has been edited by Dragondog: Mar 12, 2009 - 1:45 PM

[Candiiman]

so the best thing would be a turbo? but what else do i need to get to go with the turbo?

[jcaron9gt4]

Dude, please research.

[MercuryFree]

4age: 2.0 liter
4agze: 2.0 liter supercharged

Errr, what?

The 4agZe, the Z signifies that it is supercharged. So it's the same block and such as the 4age. It's like 3sge and 3sgte

You missed my point, but soulshadow got it

[blu94gt]

4age: 2.0 liter
4agze: 2.0 liter supercharged

Errr, what?

The 4agZe, the Z signifies that it is supercharged. So it's the same block and such as the 4age. It's like 3sge and 3sgte

You missed my point, but soulshadow got it

Lol yeah I realized that after thinking about it later.

[ZGear]

4age: 2.0 liter
4agze: 2.0 liter supercharged

Errr, what?

The 4agZe, the Z signifies that it is supercharged. So it's the same block and such as the 4age. It's like 3sge and 3sgte

You missed my point, but soulshadow got it

Hahahahaha! Sorry, I've been fixing my car about 5 hours a day for the past 5 days. Somehow it slipped my mind. Maybe I had the 3sge in my mind.

[Dragondog]

so the best thing would be a turbo? but what else do i need to get to go with the turbo?

man we keep saying and keep saying and keep saying research do u know what research means.......if u come back here asking more questions without researchin, me and prolly others will not come back to ur post if u cant research u dont need to add any more hp to ur car.....cuz parently u dont know squat bout cars or turbo....i dont mean to hate but like i said we cant just keep spoon feeding u this stuff....its ur car not ours even tho we own 6 gen celicas we cant tell u how to drive it....be a leader for ur car......we can help you but we cant spoon feed you....if u dont know what a turbo is r how it works then i and every 1 else segests you look it up then after u have researched how it works and is confused bout sumtin then we will gladly help.....you cant expect to add hp if u dont know anything (turbo? what! intercooler? whats that for? downpipe? down where? whats that shiny thing? oh is that a spark plug? then what is that? the radiator cap? whats it do? water? for what? it drinks? gasoline? where do i get that from? a what station? gas? sorry it was my dog!) research turbo kits read alot not just two words (turbo kit)...........research toyota celica http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celica research ur engin 7a fe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3AC research turbos http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbo reasearch engin swaps here in 6gc.net http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=28825 research research http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Research research if u can afford it and have the time to do it(r may i segest someone else do it).......plz dont hate me if im rude r being too blunt its just we keep tellin u to research

This post has been edited by Dragondog: Mar 13, 2009 - 4:14 AM

[presure2]

so the best thing would be a turbo? but what else do i need to get to go with the turbo?

man we keep saying and keep saying and keep saying research do u know what research means.......if u come back here asking more questions without researchin, me and prolly others will not come back to ur post if u cant research u dont need to add any more hp to ur car.....cuz parently u dont know squat bout cars or turbo....i dont mean to hate but like i said we cant just keep spoon feeding u this stuff....its ur car not ours even tho we own 6 gen celicas we cant tell u how to drive it....be a leader for ur car......we can help you but we cant spoon feed you....if u dont know what a turbo is r how it works then i and every 1 else segests you look it up then after u have researched how it works and is confused bout sumtin then we will gladly help.....you cant expect to add hp if u dont know anything (turbo? what! intercooler? whats that for? downpipe? down where? whats that shiny thing? oh is that a spark plug? then what is that? the radiator cap? whats it do? water? for what? it drinks? gasoline? where do i get that from? a what station? gas? sorry it was my dog!) research turbo kits read alot not just two words (turbo kit)...........research toyota celica http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celica research ur engin 7a fe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3AC research turbos http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbo reasearch engin swaps here in 6gc.net http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=28825 research research http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Research research if u can afford it and have the time to do it(r may i segest someone else do it).......plz dont hate me if im rude r being too blunt its just we keep tellin u to research

i find it comical that its YOU post this.

[jimmykay]

...(turbo? what! intercooler? whats that for? downpipe? down where? whats that shiny thing? oh is that a spark plug? then what is that? the radiator cap? whats it do? water? for what? it drinks? gasoline? where do i get that from? a what station? gas? sorry it was my dog!)...

quote of the day.

[Candiiman]

ok dude relax. i jus havent had the time recently but ill get to it . but ill do my research ... jeeze...

[blu94gt]

ok dude relax. i jus havent had the time recently but ill get to it . but ill do my research ... jeeze...

You should definitely be checking out the Forced Induction section. There's a whole article in the sticky of what you need to turbocharge your ST.

[Dragondog]

so the best thing would be a turbo? but what else do i need to get to go with the turbo?

man we keep saying and keep saying and keep saying research do u know what research means.......if u come back here asking more questions without researchin, me and prolly others will not come back to ur post if u cant research u dont need to add any more hp to ur car.....cuz parently u dont know squat bout cars or turbo....i dont mean to hate but like i said we cant just keep spoon feeding u this stuff....its ur car not ours even tho we own 6 gen celicas we cant tell u how to drive it....be a leader for ur car......we can help you but we cant spoon feed you....if u dont know what a turbo is r how it works then i and every 1 else segests you look it up then after u have researched how it works and is confused bout sumtin then we will gladly help.....you cant expect to add hp if u dont know anything (turbo? what! intercooler? whats that for? downpipe? down where? whats that shiny thing? oh is that a spark plug? then what is that? the radiator cap? whats it do? water? for what? it drinks? gasoline? where do i get that from? a what station? gas? sorry it was my dog!) research turbo kits read alot not just two words (turbo kit)...........research toyota celica http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celica research ur engin 7a fe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3AC research turbos http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbo reasearch engin swaps here in 6gc.net http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=28825 research research http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Research research if u can afford it and have the time to do it(r may i segest someone else do it).......plz dont hate me if im rude r being too blunt its just we keep tellin u to research

i find it comical that its YOU post this.

lol i knew you would....and i knew u were gonna say sumtin

every time u flame me presure i research...........i learn from the best........lol

This post has been edited by Dragondog: Mar 13, 2009 - 5:28 PM

[Dragondog]

...(turbo? what! intercooler? whats that for? downpipe? down where? whats that shiny thing? oh is that a spark plug? then what is that? the radiator cap? whats it do? water? for what? it drinks? gasoline? where do i get that from? a what station? gas? sorry it was my dog!)...

quote of the day.

yes it is isnt it....lol

[Dragondog]

ok dude relax. i jus havent had the time recently but ill get to it . but ill do my research ... jeeze...

i posted some links on that rude and comical post of mine its a recomended start to go there......... sry

[relyks95gt]

just ask me and crwarrior were pretty close to you and weve done our research for the most part we can help you out and crwarrior little more cuz he has an st also i got an gt im that much closer to a 3sgte(ask me bout it or reaserch it here) theres tons of info herealone

[Dragondog]

here man check this out as well

http://www.6gc.net/howto/turbocharge_your_7afe

[jcbass7]

http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showto...tchy+3sgte+swap

take a look at that swap thread, its fairly informative, but most of all its motivating... After looking at some of his stuff you will be intrigued to figure out what and how you need to make your car faster. There is a lot of good info on 3sgte swaps on here as well as other engine choices. You'll have to look around at the different options and what you want to get in the end. reliability, cost, power? etc etc. some people turbo their stock motor and some swap, it ALL depends on what you want in the end.

Search around and when you get stuck just ask a question. The people here will be willing to help in a heartbeat as long as it shows you have been looking into it a lot on your own as well.

Good luck, and enjoy the process, its been just as much fun building my car and working through problems as it has been driving it!

This post has been edited by jcbass7: Mar 16, 2009 - 7:09 PM