One acronym... BEAMS Options

[erahman85]

I feel retarded. I saw this didn't even ask questions and clicked buy it now...I hope it was a good deal...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...RK%3AMEWNX%3AIT

someone make me feel good about what I just did...

The swap begins!

This post has been edited by erahman85: Oct 9, 2009 - 8:28 PM

[SwissFerdi]

It's expensive...but yes, oh so good. So good.

[Remy]

It should of came with motor mounts too for that price but it does look clean.

[erahman85]

Crap I thought it was cheap cuz all the other ones have more miles and are missing parts... I can use stock GT motor mounts right?

[Batman722]

yes you can, looks good !

[erahman85]

Sweet! Free shipping so I'm cool the only thing I don't have is the bpipe I don't know where I'm going to get that...I hope it bolts to my stock exhaust

[njccmd2002]

you only paid 200 more than i did, and the shipping is free, it comes with stock airbox, i should have waitedfor this one, but ill just buy the sard filter..


Great buy, and welcome to the club, and nice low low miles

[Rusty]

congrates welcome to the GE family

[erahman85]

Yeah thanks I was kinda tired of seeing the 3sgte so I went for something different. Yeah u bought the one I wanted with only 20k miles and all the parTs except the box. I wish mine came with Axels cuz I don't know if stock will fit

[Batman722]

the GT axles will work just fine.

[erahman85]

well thats good to hear. I wont have to worry about that now. I'm curious to find out what kind of LSD the trans has. I don't think it makes a difference anyway LSD is LSD which is better than no LSD. Just have to worry about auto to manual swap then engine swap and then emissions in CA.

[Rusty]

what are you going to do for the guages? couldn't tell if you got them in the auction?

[erahman85]

what are you going to do for the guages? couldn't tell if you got them in the auction?

Well I didn't get it with the auction so ill probably Buy the one on ebay for 100 bucks I don't know if any beams one will fit will it?

[Rusty]

aslong as its off a ST202 will definitely fit, (though a pre-beams black face 3sge guage will work with additional wiring) But i recommend using the beams guage first (even if its just the rpm guage) since you dont want the reason why you cant get your engine running right, is due to a fault in wiring up a different guage.

This post has been edited by Rusty: Oct 11, 2009 - 4:18 PM

[trdproven]

the axles and the motor mounts work? all of them? what makes it work for the beams and not exactly for the 3sgte?

[njccmd2002]

the tranny it comes with

[Batman722]

the axles and the motor mounts work? all of them? what makes it work for the beams and not exactly for the 3sgte?

the beams uses an s54 tranny (GT) but it has LSD, whereas the st205 has an e153f.
Totally different trannys.

[erahman85]

Man I'm so excited, I feel like a little kid with a new toy I can't wait till it arrives. YOu know something weird came up, the seller asked for my vin# something about making sure the engine wasn't stolen I've never heard of this but I guess I'll just give it to him, what could they do with it anyway right????

[Rusty]

wait what? that doesn't make sence

[erahman85]

wait what? that doesn't make sence

Yeah I know... I'm going to call and get more details...

[SwissFerdi]

...if he asks for YOUR vin, it doesn't have anything to do with the engine, that has to do with a code unique to your car.

[erahman85]

...if he asks for YOUR vin, it doesn't have anything to do with the engine, that has to do with a code unique to your car.

yeah thats what I thought, Maybe they want to know what car its going into or something but for what, i don't know...

[SwissFerdi]

^ That's a huge no in my book...you're the buyer, they have no business with your VIN.

[Keiri]

^ That's a huge no in my book...you're the buyer, they have no business with your VIN.

Truth...that just sounds really shady; like he's going to pull a VIN switcheroo with your numbers.

[SwissFerdi]

Exactly. Might as well ask him for his social security number.

[erahman85]

Well the guY supposedly shipped it todaY so that's good he even got me a downpipe. he didn't asK me for the vin so ill leaVe it at that, I did talk to an import specialist befoRe from customs and border protection and he never mentioned anything about a viN... Can't wait to see this thing!

[j0e_p3t]

nice... so cal meet in sd?! jeff (lewfx) just might try to steal it from you.

[erahman85]

nice... so cal meet in sd?! jeff (lewfx) just might try to steal it from you.

Lol yeah I'm dowN for a meet, maybe someone can help me put this thing in since I let my mom borrow tHe $ 1000 I had saved for labor costs yeah I know jeff would steal it lol I thought he got rid of his car?

Hey anyone know what I can do to this thing while. Its out? Maybe to add more power or maintenance?

This post has been edited by erahman85: Oct 14, 2009 - 4:50 PM

[njccmd2002]

make sure all sensors are good, and inspect when it arrives, my vvti sensor was broken and ists going to be 260usd if i cant find it in the us

[erahman85]

make sure all sensors are good, and inspect when it arrives, my vvti sensor was broken and ists going to be 260usd if i cant find it in the us

well I know corollas and celica GT from 2000 and up had VVTI maybe its the same sensor? All the vehicles now have vvti... What about that one that they sent you that was supposed to be good, why doesn't it fit?

I'm thinking of changing the timing belt, maybe the water pump, maybe cam gears... I don't know what else or how much that would cost...

This post has been edited by erahman85: Oct 14, 2009 - 9:05 PM

[Batman722]

Hey anyone know what I can do to this thing while. Its out? Maybe to add more power or maintenance?

timing belt, tensioner, pully, water pump, thermostat, spark plugs, 02 sensor, check all the wiring to make sure there are no broken wires on any connectors, get flywheel resurfaced, get a clutch, ect...

[erahman85]

wow this is going to add up...

Timing belt (HKS) probably about $200
Tensioner: ?
Water pump: probably another $150
Thermostat: $20

ok I'm too lazy to do the rest I'll just compile prices when I get the actual prices and part numbers. Guess what I got today though? here's a clue 81130-20050, 81170-20050... I really am getting too exited but this car is almost done!

I'm going to find all these maintenance parts and post part numbers and prices that I got. Maybe this will help the other two members doing the swap so we can compare prices...

[Rusty]

make sure all sensors are good, and inspect when it arrives, my vvti sensor was broken and ists going to be 260usd if i cant find it in the us

well I know corollas and celica GT from 2000 and up had VVTI maybe its the same sensor? All the vehicles now have vvti... What about that one that they sent you that was supposed to be good, why doesn't it fit?

I'm thinking of changing the timing belt, maybe the water pump, maybe cam gears... I don't know what else or how much that would cost...

well he reckons he got a 3sge blacktop sensor, and that it wont fit, so I can't reall. I still might be able to get a lower price njccmd, though you can also blame the strong NZ vs US dollar.

[trdproven]

the axles and the motor mounts work? all of them? what makes it work for the beams and not exactly for the 3sgte?

the beams uses an s54 tranny (GT) but it has LSD, whereas the st205 has an e153f.
Totally different trannys.

does that mean we can use the lsd from it on our reg GT s54 since they seem to be the same tranny?

[erahman85]

the axles and the motor mounts work? all of them? what makes it work for the beams and not exactly for the 3sgte?

the beams uses an s54 tranny (GT) but it has LSD, whereas the st205 has an e153f.
Totally different trannys.

does that mean we can use the lsd from it on our reg GT s54 since they seem to be the same tranny?

Yeah u can most likely use the LSD from the Beams tranny and it will fit in the USDM s54 but that is not confirmed. What is confirmed is that you can drop in the LSD from an 02+ MR2 Spyder into the S54 and its a direct fit, "Urbandork" did it. I was going to do it but a new LSD is 1500 from toyota or if u can find a used mr2 tranny its about $900 average...

[erahman85]

1998 TOYOTA CELICA (ST202-BLMZF)
Random Parts that I saw might need replacing and other parts I just punched in (From toyodiy.com)

V Belt:
Part # 9936591120
trademotion.com price: $29.46

V Belt2:
Part# 993639076083
trademotion.com price: $4.99

Oil Filter (also for 00-05 Celica GT and 91-94 Camry 4cyl among others):
Part# 9091510001 Superseded by# 90915YZZF2
trademotion.com price: $4.00

Oil Plug:
Part# 9034112012
trademotion.com price: $3.20

Oil Plug Gasket:
Part# 9043012031
trademotion.com price: $0.82

Crankshaft Pulley:
Part# 1340788380
trademotion.com price: $190.13

Timing Belt:
Part# 1356880015
trademotion.com price: $28.31

Camshaft Timing Pulley:
Part# 1352388301
trademotion.com price: $105.32

No1 Chain Tensioner Assembly:
Part# 1354088561
trademotion.com price: $23.12

Cooling System Radiator Hose:
Part# 1657274230
trademotion.com price: $12.37

Clamp/Clip Radiator Outlet:
Part# 9046734004
trademotion.com price: $3.38

Thermostat:
Part# 9091603100
trademotion.com price: $14.05

Spark Plug:
Part# 909190117883
trademotion.com Price: $6.30

Cord Set Coil & Plug:
Part# 9091921577
trademotion.com price: $89.95

Ignition Coil:
Part# 9091902209
trademotion.com price: $70.00

Water Temperature Sender:
Part# 8342016040
trademotion.com price: $18.57

Water Temp Sensor:
Part# 8942216010
trademotion.com price: $46.72

Water Pump from USDM MR2 Turbo (Supposedly Fits):
Part# 1610079126
trademotion.com price: $112.78

Ok I'm tired...I couldn't find O2 Senso or Exhaust Sensor...Maybe someone could add and remove so we could just get a list of parts that should be replaced for maintenance during a swap.

This post has been edited by erahman85: Oct 15, 2009 - 8:36 PM

[njccmd2002]

that looks like a fun shopping list. are you sure bout the v belts...

[erahman85]

that looks like a fun shopping list. are you sure bout the v belts...

its what I got off of toyotadiy.com, Should be correct... If you want to try from local dealership since you already have your engine... if not, as soon as I get mine, I'll order them and test them out...I don't even know what year my engine is but I assume that all red top beams are the same

[erahman85]

Man my engine was supposed to be here today i wonder where its at?

[TRD_Ian]

do u really need to blow 200 bucks on an hks timing belt??? im sure and oem one will work just the same?? prolly alot cheaper too

[erahman85]

do u really need to blow 200 bucks on an hks timing belt??? im sure and oem one will work just the same?? prolly alot cheaper too

well I don't know but I bet the HKS timing belt is stronger, supposedly its made of kevlar whereas the OEM is probably just rubber...

[erahman85]

Its here!!!!!!!!!!











going in here:



This post has been edited by erahman85: Oct 22, 2009 - 2:01 PM

[erahman85]

I asked a mechanic to quote me on how much it would be to do the swap and he told me he didn't want to do it cuz it was too much work lol. How much more do you have to do compared to a straight swap with another 5sfe????? Anyone out there interested in doin a swap????

[turnip]

Congrats. If you where in MD I would offer to help. Good Luck and just be sure to have a lot of bolt containers and label them and your job will be much easier putting it back together.

[Batman722]

congrats mang

[njccmd2002]

dude, even with the stock airbox, i envy you, check all sensors, to be there, vvti, tps, vacuum, o2, and that they are not broken

[erahman85]

dude, even with the stock airbox, i envy you, check all sensors, to be there, vvti, tps, vacuum, o2, and that they are not broken

I don't know anything about where those sensors are at...I know 02 is probably somewhere on the exhaust manifold...

[presure2]

I asked a mechanic to quote me on how much it would be to do the swap and he told me he didn't want to do it cuz it was too much work lol. How much more do you have to do compared to a straight swap with another 5sfe????? Anyone out there interested in doin a swap????

as far as removing the old motor, and installing the new one, they are exactly the same.
figuring out how to get the beams harness thru the firewall, and doing the wiring are the only diffrences.
everything mounts up the same way, in the same locations, as far as the motors are concerned.

[erahman85]

I asked a mechanic to quote me on how much it would be to do the swap and he told me he didn't want to do it cuz it was too much work lol. How much more do you have to do compared to a straight swap with another 5sfe????? Anyone out there interested in doin a swap????

as far as removing the old motor, and installing the new one, they are exactly the same.
figuring out how to get the beams harness thru the firewall, and doing the wiring are the only diffrences.
everything mounts up the same way, in the same locations, as far as the motors are concerned.

So the A/C lines are all in the same place and the power steering stuff too? The mechanic was more concerned about the vac lines or something like that, do those have to be replaced?

[presure2]

I asked a mechanic to quote me on how much it would be to do the swap and he told me he didn't want to do it cuz it was too much work lol. How much more do you have to do compared to a straight swap with another 5sfe????? Anyone out there interested in doin a swap????

as far as removing the old motor, and installing the new one, they are exactly the same.
figuring out how to get the beams harness thru the firewall, and doing the wiring are the only diffrences.
everything mounts up the same way, in the same locations, as far as the motors are concerned.

So the A/C lines are all in the same place and the power steering stuff too? The mechanic was more concerned about the vac lines or something like that, do those have to be replaced?

the gt ac lines bolted up on dustin and steffs car, as well as the power steering.
the only vac lines that go from motor to chassis are the brake booster, and the charcole canister.
your mechanic is being shyed away by the fact you wanna install a motor that he has never seen or prolly heard of.
most normal, everyday mechanics would say the same things.
i never, ever recommend having a normal mechanic do these kind of motor swaps, it almost always turns out bad in one way or another.

[erahman85]

the gt ac lines bolted up on dustin and steffs car, as well as the power steering.
the only vac lines that go from motor to chassis are the brake booster, and the charcole canister.
your mechanic is being shyed away by the fact you wanna install a motor that he has never seen or prolly heard of.
most normal, everyday mechanics would say the same things.
i never, ever recommend having a normal mechanic do these kind of motor swaps, it almost always turns out bad in one way or another.
[/quote]

YEah the mechanic is my dad's friend, he's supposedly put a toyota engine in a ford truck and other crazy stuff but he just said he is too old to be doing swaps lol He told me I could do it and learn but it would take time. I have no experience in anything other than changing breaks and doing tune-ups.

I can't figure out how to install the clutch master cyl. though because there are no markings on the firewall and the sticky in this forum is missing the pictures. I think I'll start with the auto to Manual conversion first does that sound like a good idea?

This post has been edited by erahman85: Oct 26, 2009 - 9:55 AM

[njccmd2002]

yup

[erahman85]

Here's what I did today since I got a flat tire and couldn't make it to work...

The shifter has a bunch of connections that I don't know what they do...




Getting this out was a pain in the @!


This is the stereo amp.


and the ABS thingy


auto to manual swap!


got the break pedal done! this was a piece of cake! all you have to do is remove 1 bolt and a pin then install the new pedal, put the pin and bolt back in and thats it!



Installing the clutch will be super easy as well cuz everything is already marked! This is where the clutch master cyl goes.

and this is where the pedal assembly is bolted to as well, notice the gray screw already in place.

[erahman85]

Pretty much done with manual conversion...

[SwissFerdi]

Wow, awesome. How experienced are you with cars, and how hard would you say it was to do? And we need pics of the finished product!

[erahman85]

Wow, awesome. How experienced are you with cars, and how hard would you say it was to do? And we need pics of the finished product!

It was really easy, I thought it was going to be harder but its not. I still have some minor details to clean up so that it looks better (i need a rubber washer for the clutch master cyl.) and then I'll post pictures... I have no experience at all with major mechanical work! I totally did not know what I was doing but its pretty self explanatory once you get down to it! I don't have a lot of tools either just a 69 piece tool set from home depot, a drill (only for the holes in the firewall) and a jack and jackstands and that was it. So yeah anyone can do it. I'll post pics when i get a chance.

[Rusty]

nice, a step closer now

I can understand though, once you pull all the trim off all the loom etc. the manual tranny in yet? hope shes shifting nice.

[presure2]

Wow, awesome. How experienced are you with cars, and how hard would you say it was to do? And we need pics of the finished product!

It was really easy, I thought it was going to be harder but its not. I still have some minor details to clean up so that it looks better (i need a rubber washer for the clutch master cyl.) and then I'll post pictures... I have no experience at all with major mechanical work! I totally did not know what I was doing but its pretty self explanatory once you get down to it! I don't have a lot of tools either just a 69 piece tool set from home depot, a drill (only for the holes in the firewall) and a jack and jackstands and that was it. So yeah anyone can do it. I'll post pics when i get a chance.

thats awesome, congrats!
the auto to manual conversion really is not that big a deal at all once you get in and working on it.
good to see everything moving along.

[erahman85]

Hey I was looking at the two different face gauges and the ones that I have to swap for the BEAMS conversion (Tach) fits in the GT face gauge perfectly but if you look at the circuit board there are some major differences. Does anyone know if all I have to do is swap the tach straight out and thats it or do I have to do anything else?

this is the BEAMS Face gauge:



this is the Celica GT face gauge:

[njccmd2002]

the tach and fuel is supposed to be a straight swap. the wiring is easy, i just made it look complicate lol. but is really not.

you need to get a engine crane and voila.

[erahman85]

the tach and fuel is supposed to be a straight swap. the wiring is easy, i just made it look complicate lol. but is really not.

you need to get a engine crane and voila.

well I just did the straight swap and I hope it works. Yeah the harness looks insane lol...

[SwissFerdi]

It was really easy, I thought it was going to be harder but its not. I still have some minor details to clean up so that it looks better (i need a rubber washer for the clutch master cyl.) and then I'll post pictures... I have no experience at all with major mechanical work! I totally did not know what I was doing but its pretty self explanatory once you get down to it! I don't have a lot of tools either just a 69 piece tool set from home depot, a drill (only for the holes in the firewall) and a jack and jackstands and that was it. So yeah anyone can do it. I'll post pics when i get a chance.

That's great to hear. I was just wondering if I could attempt this in the future...but honestly, I don't even change my own oil (bad, I know ).

[erahman85]

It was really easy, I thought it was going to be harder but its not. I still have some minor details to clean up so that it looks better (i need a rubber washer for the clutch master cyl.) and then I'll post pictures... I have no experience at all with major mechanical work! I totally did not know what I was doing but its pretty self explanatory once you get down to it! I don't have a lot of tools either just a 69 piece tool set from home depot, a drill (only for the holes in the firewall) and a jack and jackstands and that was it. So yeah anyone can do it. I'll post pics when i get a chance.

That's great to hear. I was just wondering if I could attempt this in the future...but honestly, I don't even change my own oil (bad, I know ).

Yeah You could do it. I hardly ever change my own oil either cuz its just so cheap to have a shop do it...

[richee3]

The shops here all charge $29.99 to change your oil, where I can do it myself for about $16. I can change my oil two times for what the shops charge for it.

So the auto to manual wasn't too hard, eh? That's good to know. You'll have to let us know how you like having a manual!

[SwissFerdi]

Yeah You could do it. I hardly ever change my own oil either cuz its just so cheap to have a shop do it...

Well, I originally wanted to but my brother said his friends that do it themselves say it's not worth it after needing to dispose of the oil, etc. I'm sure it's not hard to find a place to dispose it though, I could probably take it to any auto shop that does oil changes themselves.

One question about the manual swap, how exactly do you mount the clutch pedal? I assume there's some kind of space where it would usually mount, but that is left blank in automatic models. Also, how hard was it to install the shifter assembly? I assume again that there are mounting places where things screw in already existing in the car.

This post has been edited by SwissFerdi: Nov 1, 2009 - 10:09 PM

[trdproven]

there should be indentation or markings for the clutch pedal assembly. shifter assembly is just 4 bolts and then you tie in the shifter cables to them.

[erahman85]

Yeah You could do it. I hardly ever change my own oil either cuz its just so cheap to have a shop do it...

Well, I originally wanted to but my brother said his friends that do it themselves say it's not worth it after needing to dispose of the oil, etc. I'm sure it's not hard to find a place to dispose it though, I could probably take it to any auto shop that does oil changes themselves.

One question about the manual swap, how exactly do you mount the clutch pedal? I assume there's some kind of space where it would usually mount, but that is left blank in automatic models. Also, how hard was it to install the shifter assembly? I assume again that there are mounting places where things screw in already existing in the car.

well the shifter assembly is a straight pull out the auto and put in the manual. To swap the cables you have to get underneath the car, unbolt the heatshield (easy, 4 screws) above the cat and remove the old automatic shifter cable. Then put the manual shifter cables in and thats it. The only other thing that I haven't found out yet is exactly where the manual shifter cables are supposed to be routed through. I mean I don't know if they go over the rack n pinion or what. Its hard to explain without pics but yeah. The clutch pedal is really easy as well. The holes are already marked you just have to drill them. Use a 5/8" drill bit and drill three holes where they are marked. The bigger hole you have to find a drill bit big enough or use a small drill bit then use a saws-all and thats it everything should fit perfectly. If you look at my previous pictures you can see a picture of the firewall with the holes marked.

I gots to go cuz my wife is yelling at me to go eat lol.

[SwissFerdi]

well the shifter assembly is a straight pull out the auto and put in the manual. To swap the cables you have to get underneath the car, unbolt the heatshield (easy, 4 screws) above the cat and remove the old automatic shifter cable. Then put the manual shifter cables in and thats it. The only other thing that I haven't found out yet is exactly where the manual shifter cables are supposed to be routed through. I mean I don't know if they go over the rack n pinion or what. Its hard to explain without pics but yeah. The clutch pedal is really easy as well. The holes are already marked you just have to drill them. Use a 5/8" drill bit and drill three holes where they are marked. The bigger hole you have to find a drill bit big enough or use a small drill bit then use a saws-all and thats it everything should fit perfectly. If you look at my previous pictures you can see a picture of the firewall with the holes marked.

I gots to go cuz my wife is yelling at me to go eat lol.

Thanks for that explanation. How did you jack the car up?

[erahman85]

well the shifter assembly is a straight pull out the auto and put in the manual. To swap the cables you have to get underneath the car, unbolt the heatshield (easy, 4 screws) above the cat and remove the old automatic shifter cable. Then put the manual shifter cables in and thats it. The only other thing that I haven't found out yet is exactly where the manual shifter cables are supposed to be routed through. I mean I don't know if they go over the rack n pinion or what. Its hard to explain without pics but yeah. The clutch pedal is really easy as well. The holes are already marked you just have to drill them. Use a 5/8" drill bit and drill three holes where they are marked. The bigger hole you have to find a drill bit big enough or use a small drill bit then use a saws-all and thats it everything should fit perfectly. If you look at my previous pictures you can see a picture of the firewall with the holes marked.

I gots to go cuz my wife is yelling at me to go eat lol.

Thanks for that explanation. How did you jack the car up?

bought a 3 ton jack and jack stands at home depot for less than $100

[SwissFerdi]

Okay, that's a doable addition to the rest of the costs. So I guess it is entirely doable at home then, huh? Enticing.

[nics]

i wanna check it out

[erahman85]

WHo knows if when doing the swap u use the fuse box (next to the battery) from the BEAMS or use the one thats already in the car?

[turnip]

I used the stock fuse box because I did not get one with my engine. Just take a look and see if the fuses are all the same. Im guessing thats SRS will probably be the only one thats might be different. However I have a 94gt and yours is a 99. It could be a little different. But I would start by identifing each fuse. Wire colors will likely all be the same.

[erahman85]

I used the stock fuse box because I did not get one with my engine. Just take a look and see if the fuses are all the same. Im guessing thats SRS will probably be the only one thats might be different. However I have a 94gt and yours is a 99. It could be a little different. But I would start by identifing each fuse. Wire colors will likely all be the same.

Some mods have to be done to the harness though right? I was looking on other posts But I still Don't understand exactly what I have to change...

[njccmd2002]

1998 TOYOTA CELICA (ST202-BLMZF)
Random Parts that I saw might need replacing and other parts I just punched in (From toyodiy.com)

V Belt:
Part # 9936591120
trademotion.com price: $29.46

V Belt2:
Part# 993639076083
trademotion.com price: $4.99

Oil Filter (also for 00-05 Celica GT and 91-94 Camry 4cyl among others):
Part# 9091510001 Superseded by# 90915YZZF2
trademotion.com price: $4.00

Oil Plug:
Part# 9034112012
trademotion.com price: $3.20

Oil Plug Gasket:
Part# 9043012031
trademotion.com price: $0.82

Crankshaft Pulley:
Part# 1340788380
trademotion.com price: $190.13

Timing Belt:
Part# 1356880015
trademotion.com price: $28.31

Camshaft Timing Pulley:
Part# 1352388301
trademotion.com price: $105.32

No1 Chain Tensioner Assembly:
Part# 1354088561
trademotion.com price: $23.12

Cooling System Radiator Hose:
Part# 1657274230
trademotion.com price: $12.37

Clamp/Clip Radiator Outlet:
Part# 9046734004
trademotion.com price: $3.38

Thermostat:
Part# 9091603100
trademotion.com price: $14.05

Spark Plug:
Part# 909190117883
trademotion.com Price: $6.30

Cord Set Coil & Plug:
Part# 9091921577
trademotion.com price: $89.95

Ignition Coil:
Part# 9091902209
trademotion.com price: $70.00

Water Temperature Sender:
Part# 8342016040
trademotion.com price: $18.57

Water Temp Sensor:
Part# 8942216010
trademotion.com price: $46.72

Water Pump from USDM MR2 Turbo (Supposedly Fits):
Part# 1610079126
trademotion.com price: $112.78

Ok I'm tired...I couldn't find O2 Senso or Exhaust Sensor...Maybe someone could add and remove so we could just get a list of parts that should be replaced for maintenance during a swap.

im ordering based on this part numbers, so ill blame you LOL.

i might get a trd shifter too... hope they have it it is listed at 110 bucks....

[erahman85]

1998 TOYOTA CELICA (ST202-BLMZF)
Random Parts that I saw might need replacing and other parts I just punched in (From toyodiy.com)

V Belt:
Part # 9936591120
trademotion.com price: $29.46


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Ok I'm tired...I couldn't find O2 Senso or Exhaust Sensor...Maybe someone could add and remove so we could just get a list of parts that should be replaced for maintenance during a swap.

im ordering based on this part numbers, so ill blame you LOL.

i might get a trd shifter too... hope they have it it is listed at 110 bucks....

I looked for that TRD shifter and my dealership doesn't have it in stock they said its discontinued and they sold out. do you have a part number for it cuz I lost the part number?????

This post has been edited by erahman85: Nov 15, 2009 - 12:24 AM

[Rusty]

which TRD shifter? TRD ST20X one?

[nics]

here's the part number of the version 2

PTR04-20940-04

i know a guy from ebay who can sell one. he quoted me $116 + $7 shipping. he's local but wouldnt allow pick up.

his ebay username/store is garrickwholesale760, contact him and see if he could get hold of it.

hope this helps

[njccmd2002]

iwas going to place an order for the shifter but i just learned its discontinued.

[nics]

ill try to get a hold of him, ill check if he has some left over

[njccmd2002]

are you having harness trouble?

[erahman85]

are you having harness trouble?

Yeah basically the 5s is ready to come out I just don't have a hoist so I want to work on the harness for now but I don't know where to start. I was trying to understand the post on your thread but I don't really get it. Someone offered to help over the phone but I didn't get around to it on saturday I think pics are a little more helpfull to me cuz I'm a visual learner but any help is greAtly appreciated

[erahman85]

Here are the USDM plugs inside of my car where the harness for the BEAMS plugs into after the ECU. On the gray plug (1st gray plug in the pictures and 1st gray plug from bottom to top when you look inside the car) everything matches except one wire The white plug is missing wires. and the second gray one at the top is just a mess. I'll post pics now and edit it to clean it up later when I get a chance so you know which one is which. but just in case you already know the difference I'll post the pics now...

ON THIS ONE EVERY WIRE MATCHES WITH THE JDM PLUG EXCEPT THAT THE JDM DOESNT HAVE THE BLACK AND BLUE WIRES THAT YOU SEE SEPARATED ON THE UPPER LEFT OF THE PICTURE


ON THIS ONE (WHITE), THE WIRES ON THE WHITE PLUG THAT ARE SORT OF SEPARATED TO THE LEFT MATCH WITH THE EXCEPTION THAT ITS MISSING A BLUE WIRE. THE BUNCH OF WIRES SEPARATED TO THE RIGHT ON THE WHITE PLUG ARE EXTRA COMPARED TO THE JDM WHITE PLUG


THIS ONE IS INSANE MOST OF THE WIRES DON'T MATCH


This post has been edited by erahman85: Nov 16, 2009 - 11:22 PM

[njccmd2002]

the wires may not match, beams may have different colors

this is what i have and others have done

extend the maf wires, the speed sensor wires and the vacuum sensor wires. (at least what i did)

on EA1

bridge together pins 4 and 17
bridge together pins 2 and 12

move white plug (pin #18) to dark grey plug into (pin # 17)

For Cruise dark grey interior harness (pin #10) tap into blue/white stripe wire from the ECU (AFaIK this is not working, as beams did not have cruise, Batman722 is working on this and i will probably not use it)

For SRS run a wire from EA1 through the engine harness (or body) to the light grey interior plug (pin #5)

this is all the wiring to be done...

all the wiring im doing is rerouting and extending the harness.

[nics]

iwas going to place an order for the shifter but i just learned its discontinued.

pm me your email if you're still interested and ill forward his reply. he said he has it for 119.99

he said something weird but idk if its true.

This post has been edited by nics: Nov 18, 2009 - 1:20 PM

[erahman85]

Here are pics of the differences in the fuse box...

The Top one is from the BEAMS harness the bottom is from the GT USDM. The fuse differences are obvious but on the gray plug (bottom left i believe this is the EA1 everyone talks about) there is an extra wire on the BEAMS one that the USDM doesn't have. anyone know what thats for? Everything else matches

Same here but a closer look.

USDM:

JDM: WHAT THE HELL IS 4WS????

USDM

JDM


This post has been edited by erahman85: Nov 20, 2009 - 6:10 PM

[Rusty]

JDM: WHAT THE HELL IS 4WS????

thats for ST203 with 4 Wheel Steering

[Batman722]

JDM: WHAT THE HELL IS 4WS????

thats for ST203 with 4 Wheel Steering

the rare GT-R

[Rusty]

JDM: WHAT THE HELL IS 4WS????

thats for ST203 with 4 Wheel Steering

the rare GT-R

nope the ST183 models got called that but the ST203 didn't. They had a '4WS' sticker on the back window, where the "Superstrut Suspension" usually is.

This post has been edited by Rusty: Nov 20, 2009 - 10:18 PM

[njccmd2002]

Ok i believe that engine might be from a curren possible, some were equipped with 4ws, but you dont have that, i believe that extra wire is the wire that goes to the injectors maybe, that one that you have to bridge, or an extra ground, but im leaning towards the first one. what color is the wire. black with red?


the pplace in the beams that says trac yours is srs, thats the blue wire missing for the airbags.

thanks for the pics posted in my post.

[erahman85]

Ok i believe that engine might be from a curren possible, some were equipped with 4ws, but you dont have that, i believe that extra wire is the wire that goes to the injectors maybe, that one that you have to bridge, or an extra ground, but im leaning towards the first one. what color is the wire. black with red?


the pplace in the beams that says trac yours is srs, thats the blue wire missing for the airbags.

thanks for the pics posted in my post.

Yeah the extra wire is black with a red stripe. what is that for?

What is the trac wire for? Do i need it, keep the trac slot and run a new SRS wire to a different slot or do I run the SRS wire to the trac slot and delete the trac wire and fuse?

[njccmd2002]

i think it has to do something with the injectors, and the trac wire you can use it as the srs in ours, is for the indicator light, you just have to repin it

[hurley97]

Pretty much done with manual conversion...

What about the interior wiring from the auto shifter? You need to bridge the park/neutral switch wires in the plug that goes into the auto shifter to the clutch start switch, otherwise you are going to have some trouble starting it.

move white plug (pin #18) to dark grey plug into (pin # 17)

And this step is for a car that came with a manual transmission. Having an auto interior harness you are most likely going to have to put this wire to a different pin.

This post has been edited by hurley97: Dec 8, 2009 - 11:05 PM

[erahman85]

Pretty much done with manual conversion...

What about the interior wiring from the auto shifter? You need to bridge the park/neutral switch wires in the plug that goes into the auto shifter to the clutch start switch, otherwise you are going to have some trouble starting it.

move white plug (pin #18) to dark grey plug into (pin # 17)

And this step is for a car that came with a manual transmission. Having an auto interior harness you are most likely going to have to put this wire to a different pin.

What color wires are those for the shifter do you know????

[hurley97]

Pretty much done with manual conversion...

What about the interior wiring from the auto shifter? You need to bridge the park/neutral switch wires in the plug that goes into the auto shifter to the clutch start switch, otherwise you are going to have some trouble starting it.

move white plug (pin #18) to dark grey plug into (pin # 17)

And this step is for a car that came with a manual transmission. Having an auto interior harness you are most likely going to have to put this wire to a different pin.

What color wires are those for the shifter do you know????

The easiest way to do it is in the engine bay at the park/neutral position switch that plugs into the auto tranny, but since you are going to be replacing the whole engine harness you'd be getting rid of that end, so you need to do it on the interior side.

Its a black wire and a black/yellow wire but you need to connect one from the harness side to the other one from the ECU side and I can't remember which way it goes. I think its the black wire you cut that comes out of the ECU into one of the three interior plugs and goes into the harness behind the console, then you cut the black/yellow wire from one of this shifter plugs and connect it to the black wire (this will make it so you can start with car without using the clutch) OR just route both wires to the clutch start switch on the clutch pedal (doesn't matter which one goes into what pin cause it just connects the two when you push the clutch in).

move white plug (pin #18) to dark grey plug into (pin # 17)

And this step is for a car that came with a manual transmission. Having an auto interior harness you are most likely going to have to put this wire to a different pin.

This is the part that throws things off a little. The above wire moves the Beams clutch start wire from the engine to the GT clutch start switch in the interior. I'm not sure, but you may be able to bypass that whole step I mentioned above and just repin a different wire for this step. Either way you are probably going to have to move this wire to a different pin. I'd have to think about it and discuss it with Dustin, since he is the wiring expert here, everything I know is from things he's taught me.

[erahman85]

UGHHHH!!! I haven't been able to work on my car for like two months and I need my car!!! if anyone in San Diego or SoCal knows a good mechanic or wants to come and make some cash let me know.... I could probably do it but I have little time and have run out of tools...

[BonzaiCelica]

someone help him finish it!

[erahman85]

someone help him finish it!

LOL YES PLEASE SOMEONE HELP ME!!!!!! FIND ME A GOOD TOYOTA MECHANIC!!!! I WILL PAY!!!!

[nics]

someone help him finish it!

LOL YES PLEASE SOMEONE HELP ME!!!!!! FIND ME A GOOD TOYOTA MECHANIC!!!! I WILL PAY!!!!

whats your budget?

[erahman85]

someone help him finish it!

LOL YES PLEASE SOMEONE HELP ME!!!!!! FIND ME A GOOD TOYOTA MECHANIC!!!! I WILL PAY!!!!

whats your budget?

I have enough according to what I have been quoted before... Just for shizes and giggles I went to toyota dealership n they wanted 2000 just in labor to start off. I told them they were insane.