 7afe/5sfe?, this may be dumb |
 Jun 19, 2010 - 6:14 PM
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this may be a dumb question but i've been looking around for awhile now and havn't had much help finding a close manual 5 speed tranny for my 7a but i was wondering if a 5s tranny would bolt up to a 7a engine? any help would be great. thanks guys
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2000 Eclipse GT- DD=== oil pump went blown up and sold 1997 Celica ST- swapped and sold 2004 Ford explorer xlt 4x4- totaled 1997 Celica Convertible GT- Going Topless (; (18:32:21) yarik83: axel has a sensitive wife. i hear she used to be a lesbian and then became ferdi ( PARTING OUT A GT COUPE http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=88592 ) |
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Jun 19, 2010 - 6:15 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 18, '09 From Orlando Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
No.
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Jun 19, 2010 - 6:17 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 7, '09 Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (65%) |
thats really unfortunate. there are so many around here it isn't even funny. it sucks that i can't even find one compared to the 50 5s trannys
-------------------- NOVAKx17
2000 Eclipse GT- DD=== oil pump went blown up and sold 1997 Celica ST- swapped and sold 2004 Ford explorer xlt 4x4- totaled 1997 Celica Convertible GT- Going Topless (; (18:32:21) yarik83: axel has a sensitive wife. i hear she used to be a lesbian and then became ferdi ( PARTING OUT A GT COUPE http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=88592 ) |
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Jun 21, 2010 - 9:02 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 8, '03 From Lancaster CA Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
i cant confirm but i have heard that the C60 in the 7th gen Celica bolt pattern is very close. you might be able to make that work. and its a 6 speed
-------------------- 2001 Celica GT-S Turbo
1997 Supra TT 6speed 1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap 1990 Celica All-Trac |
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Jun 21, 2010 - 9:51 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 7, '09 Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (65%) |
Hmm really? if anyone can confirm this that'd be kind of awesome.
-------------------- NOVAKx17
2000 Eclipse GT- DD=== oil pump went blown up and sold 1997 Celica ST- swapped and sold 2004 Ford explorer xlt 4x4- totaled 1997 Celica Convertible GT- Going Topless (; (18:32:21) yarik83: axel has a sensitive wife. i hear she used to be a lesbian and then became ferdi ( PARTING OUT A GT COUPE http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=88592 ) |
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Jun 21, 2010 - 9:52 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 18, '09 From Orlando Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
I've heard that before as well. Be my guinea pig and do it.
-------------------- '97 ST \ Eibach \ KYB \ Kenwood \ Alpine \ Cusco \ OEM+ [sold 10/18]
'93 MX-5 LE |
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Jun 21, 2010 - 9:53 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 7, '09 Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (65%) |
hmmm... its very tempting.. it would be kinda sweet to have a 6 speed. ha
-------------------- NOVAKx17
2000 Eclipse GT- DD=== oil pump went blown up and sold 1997 Celica ST- swapped and sold 2004 Ford explorer xlt 4x4- totaled 1997 Celica Convertible GT- Going Topless (; (18:32:21) yarik83: axel has a sensitive wife. i hear she used to be a lesbian and then became ferdi ( PARTING OUT A GT COUPE http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=88592 ) |
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Jun 21, 2010 - 10:14 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Apr 28, '09 From York pa Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
QUOTE (Smaay @ Jun 21, 2010 - 10:02 AM)  i cant confirm but i have heard that the C60 in the 7th gen Celica bolt pattern is very close. you might be able to make that work. and its a 6 speed its close but not worth it in my opinion to be running like dat |
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Jun 21, 2010 - 12:32 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 7, '09 Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (65%) |
really? ha. seems like itd be pretty sweet to me, but i'm just looking to get rid of my auto tranny and go back to standard transmission ha. miss it
-------------------- NOVAKx17
2000 Eclipse GT- DD=== oil pump went blown up and sold 1997 Celica ST- swapped and sold 2004 Ford explorer xlt 4x4- totaled 1997 Celica Convertible GT- Going Topless (; (18:32:21) yarik83: axel has a sensitive wife. i hear she used to be a lesbian and then became ferdi ( PARTING OUT A GT COUPE http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=88592 ) |
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Jun 21, 2010 - 4:51 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Mar 22, '07 From Houston, TX Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
it'll bolt up. but the ratios wont be...optimal. it'll work, though.
-------------------- QUOTE "And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH 1994 GT: V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED 1995 ST: SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White 1994 ST: Totaled, 5spd, all power, Red RIP 07/09/09 @ 241,810 1994 Lexus LS400: This is my new DD |
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Jun 21, 2010 - 5:07 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 7, '09 Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (65%) |
what kinda gas milage do you think you'd get with a six speed tranny bolted to a 7a?
-------------------- NOVAKx17
2000 Eclipse GT- DD=== oil pump went blown up and sold 1997 Celica ST- swapped and sold 2004 Ford explorer xlt 4x4- totaled 1997 Celica Convertible GT- Going Topless (; (18:32:21) yarik83: axel has a sensitive wife. i hear she used to be a lesbian and then became ferdi ( PARTING OUT A GT COUPE http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=88592 ) |
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Jun 22, 2010 - 12:47 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Feb 5, '05 From pineapple under the sea Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) |
The c160 (ae111 6 speed) and c60 (zzt231 6 speed) will both bolt up fine.
Ratios: Trans 1st. 2nd. 3rd. 4th. 5th. 6th. Final. C56 3.16 1.90 1.39 1.03 .81 n/a 4.31 C60 3.16 2.05 1.48 1.16 .91 .72 4.52 C160 is identical to the C60 -------------------- 1991 MR2 - T-tops - Crimson Red - Gen3 3SGTE - Lots of money
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Jun 22, 2010 - 12:54 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 18, '09 From Orlando Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
So would the C60 be a good match for the 7A-FE, or for a 7A-FTE setup for that matter? Those ratios mean nothing to me. I'll do some research, but maybe somebody can already shed some light?
This post has been edited by SwissFerdi: Jun 22, 2010 - 12:55 PM -------------------- '97 ST \ Eibach \ KYB \ Kenwood \ Alpine \ Cusco \ OEM+ [sold 10/18]
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Jun 22, 2010 - 12:57 PM
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i'd also like to know the same as what ferdi asked... in the future i'd love to turbo my 7a, and i'd also love to have a 6 speed trans. . so would that work out okay? thanksss
-------------------- NOVAKx17
2000 Eclipse GT- DD=== oil pump went blown up and sold 1997 Celica ST- swapped and sold 2004 Ford explorer xlt 4x4- totaled 1997 Celica Convertible GT- Going Topless (; (18:32:21) yarik83: axel has a sensitive wife. i hear she used to be a lesbian and then became ferdi ( PARTING OUT A GT COUPE http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=88592 ) |
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Jun 22, 2010 - 1:56 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 5, '05 From pineapple under the sea Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) |
At 3000rpm on the c160/60
With a generalized tire size of 205/50R-16 In MPH 1 15 2 23 3 32 4 40 5 52 6 66 6th gear @ 3.5k - 77 And I'm not doing the math on a C56, if you guys don't know then you have problems. -------------------- 1991 MR2 - T-tops - Crimson Red - Gen3 3SGTE - Lots of money
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Jun 22, 2010 - 2:01 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 7, '09 Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (65%) |
wow, for real? how can it be that bad?
that really upsets me haha -------------------- NOVAKx17
2000 Eclipse GT- DD=== oil pump went blown up and sold 1997 Celica ST- swapped and sold 2004 Ford explorer xlt 4x4- totaled 1997 Celica Convertible GT- Going Topless (; (18:32:21) yarik83: axel has a sensitive wife. i hear she used to be a lesbian and then became ferdi ( PARTING OUT A GT COUPE http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=88592 ) |
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Jun 22, 2010 - 2:08 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 5, '05 From pineapple under the sea Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) |
That's pretty on par with the S54.
-------------------- 1991 MR2 - T-tops - Crimson Red - Gen3 3SGTE - Lots of money
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Jun 22, 2010 - 2:12 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 7, '09 Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (65%) |
i feel retarded . i definatley read that last set wrong haha.
any ideas how it would hold up to being turboed? -------------------- NOVAKx17
2000 Eclipse GT- DD=== oil pump went blown up and sold 1997 Celica ST- swapped and sold 2004 Ford explorer xlt 4x4- totaled 1997 Celica Convertible GT- Going Topless (; (18:32:21) yarik83: axel has a sensitive wife. i hear she used to be a lesbian and then became ferdi ( PARTING OUT A GT COUPE http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=88592 ) |
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Jun 22, 2010 - 2:25 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 18, '09 From Orlando Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
Thanks Matt. Might I ask how you arrived at those figures so I can do it myself in the future?
-------------------- '97 ST \ Eibach \ KYB \ Kenwood \ Alpine \ Cusco \ OEM+ [sold 10/18]
'93 MX-5 LE |
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Jun 22, 2010 - 2:41 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 5, '05 From pineapple under the sea Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) |
1. Wikipedia for ratios and final drives
2. Googled ratio speed calculator 3. Input data 4. ............ 5. Profit! And for giggles: C56 at the variables above: 1 15 2 26 3 35 4 48 5 61 At 3.5k 71 S54 1 15 2 26 3 39 4 50 5 62 At 3.5k 73 -------------------- 1991 MR2 - T-tops - Crimson Red - Gen3 3SGTE - Lots of money
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Jun 23, 2010 - 12:22 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 5, '05 From pineapple under the sea Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) |
I suppose it is worth noting that the 2ZZGE and the 4AGE are high RPM motors. That is where the power is with them. That is why their transmissions are geared like that.
-------------------- 1991 MR2 - T-tops - Crimson Red - Gen3 3SGTE - Lots of money
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