ebay coilivers on stock stuts? Options

[kurt95gt]

im thinking about buying a cheap set of ebay coilovers to lower my celica till I can afford a good set up
has anyone done this I just would lime to know if it'll work

[808celica]

it works, its crap, you break things, you feel unsafe taking a corner.................

but it does give you the "form" that expensive stuff give

[Lil-Joe101]

Dont do it bro, u will blow ur struts with them and every bumped u hit feels twice as hard. Ur struts are made to be a certain heigth. The moment u put the cheap coilovees on and set ur car down the struts basically blow. U can use the spring but buy struts that are meant to be lowered and if ur gonna go that route u might as well just wait, save, and buy a kit. It will benefit u in the long run.

[kurt95gt]

it works, its crap, you break things, you feel unsafe taking a corner.................

but it does give you the "form" that expensive stuff give

ok you guy basically confirmed what I was thinking calling
im figuring this will get the same response but what about the lowering that are made like the stock spring but will give you like a 2 inch drop those any good
anywhere I can get a kit for around like 400?

[kurt95gt]

Dont do it bro, u will blow ur struts with them and every bumped u hit feels twice as hard. Ur struts are made to be a certain heigth. The moment u put the cheap coilovees on and set ur car down the struts basically blow. U can use the spring but buy struts that are meant to be lowered and if ur gonna go that route u might as well just wait, save, and buy a kit. It will benefit u in the long run.

I had s feeling it would blow my struts because I did the same thing on my old civic so I could lay with the ride hight till I could afford the actual kit
sweet celica by the way I just read your new project thread about 3the day ago

[Lil-Joe101]

Thanks bro, u can go with a lowering spring but either way ur gonna have to change out the sturts regardless. Im drivin a sebring right now that I bought from an old friend. He put lowering springs on but didnt change out the struts now Im living with the results. Every little bump feels like Im driving 20mph over a speed bump cuz the struts are wrong(factory) and blown.

This post has been edited by Lil-Joe101: Sep 9, 2011 - 11:23 AM

[kurt95gt]

Thanks bro, u can go with a lowering spring but either way ur gonna have to change out the sturts regardless. Im drivin a sebring right now that I bought from an old friend. He put lowering springs on but didnt change out the struts now Im living with the results. Every little bump feels like Im driving 20mph over a speed bump cuz the struts are wrong(factory) and blown.

ok any advice on a good setup to run that wont kill my wallet
completely

This post has been edited by kurt95gt: Sep 9, 2011 - 11:41 AM

[jordisonjr]

KYB gr-2s (warrantied up to a 2 inch drop.) and tien s tech springs.
Give you about a 1.9"drop in the front 1.5" in the rear I believe.
Check my profile for pics thats what I'm running.
But if you're planning to get coilovers, and just want to drop it while you wait, I'd honestly say wait and get coilovers.
Springs don't add a whole lot for performance, they're more for looks.
If you're looking for both get coilovers.
You can get a decent set of coilovers for a couple hundred bucks more than a spring/strut set up.

S techs are about 200 plus shipping on ebay, and gr-2s are about 400 plus shipping on ebay as well.
You can probably get a decent set of coilovers like bc racing, megan, or ksport for about 800 to 1000.

If I would have known this at the time, I probably would have went with coilovers.

[kurt95gt]

KYB gr-2s (warrantied up to a 2 inch drop.) and tien s tech springs.
Give you about a 1.9"drop in the front 1.5" in the rear I believe.
Check my profile for pics thats what I'm running.
But if you're planning to get coilovers, and just want to drop it while you wait, I'd honestly say wait and get coilovers.
Springs don't add a whole lot for performance, they're more for looks.
If you're looking for both get coilovers.
You can get a decent set of coilovers for a couple hundred bucks more than a spring/strut set up.

S techs are about 200 plus shipping on ebay, and gr-2s are about 400 plus shipping on ebay as well.
You can probably get a decent set of coilovers like bc racing, megan, or ksport for about 800 to 1000.

If I would have known this at the time, I probably would have went with coilovers.

yea I thing im going to go with coilovers then
im looking for around a 3inch drop when im done to
nice looking celica by the way
need to do more to mine most of the celica I look at on here look so much better than mine

[kurt95gt]

ok what's the best way to drop my car on a budget
is it cheaper to buy the coils an struts separate or as a combo

[jordisonjr]

Depending on your road conditions and the shape of your stock struts (assumin they are still stock) You could last approximately 6 to 8 months lowered on s techs and stock struts.

I rode on my stechs on stock struts for quite a while.
They were clunckin a bit but the ride was the same as when I lowered it, and there wasn't much difference when i put new struts in so they couldn't have been that blown yet.

I'm not saying I would recommend it, or that your struts will last this long lowered, but thats how it was for me.

[SwissFerdi]

Springs don't add a whole lot for performance, they're more for looks.

Sorry, not true. Your S-Techs are known to be on the soft side, whereas I think Megan makes one of the stiffest spring kits for our Celica. I have an Eibach Sportline setup and they're slightly softer than the Megan springs, but still provide a considerable improvement in performance, without doubt.

Kurt, the cheapest safe route is a GR-2 strut setup with the spring of your choice. Several options:

Megan - 2" drop
Eibach Sportline/TRD springs - 1.5"
Intrax - 1.8"
Eibach Pro-kit - 1"

And whatever else you happen to find. Keep in mind that additional parts may be needed in accordance to condition of your existing suspension components, i.e. strut mounts, strut boots, sway bar end links.

Here's the exhaustive list. Some of these aren't available.

http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=13355

This post has been edited by SwissFerdi: Sep 9, 2011 - 2:57 PM

[Lil-Joe101]

Dont rush to buy what u want, just save the money til u can afford it. If u want a large drop and arent to concerned about smoothness and comfort go with coilovers. If a smooth ride is more ur thing go with lowering springs. Each type of suspension offers something different and have their pro amd cons.

This post has been edited by Lil-Joe101: Sep 9, 2011 - 2:54 PM

[jordisonjr]

Sorry i forgot to put that i meant s techs lol.

[SupraKid]

It all about how low you wanna go, and if you need to adjust your ride height at any time. I personally like to sometimes have the car SLAMMED to look nice, but sacrificing being able to drive like a normal person. But at other times be able to go 4x4 to go on a rough road or something. If you dont care and all you do is one type of driving then springs/struts are for you. S/S combo will have a better ride than most coilover systems as well.


The only time id recommend ebay coilovers to anyone is if their stock suspension is already blown out.

This post has been edited by SupraKid: Sep 9, 2011 - 3:01 PM

[kurt95gt]

ok im not trying to rush into it
im just use to honda prices lol so I wasn't for sure if spending under 800 was an option
im looking to do this around winter time since she will be parked most of it
so looks like I need to start saving now
is a used setup off of here a good idea/option

[kurt95gt]

ok this is my plans
over the winter I want to basically slam her and freshing up my brakes
an im debating on selling my rims
the roads where I live are good my last car was dropped 4" (blue civic in the pics with my celica)

should I stick with the rims or go back to stocks car seems to look good eather way

[Lil-Joe101]

Im useing a set of used Tanabe sustic pro coilovers I bought when I was in Japan for $300. Just being curious one day checked out their retail price at $1500. Deff got a good deal on mine n they r still on the car today. Honestly, anyone on here could tell u wut looks good and wut doesnt but by thw end of it all, it all comes down to ur personal preference bro. Im a body kit crack head personally, lol. But most people arent u know. Good luck with the build I hope to see more.

[kurt95gt]

think the rims might go ti fund the coilovers

[kurt95gt]

what are some good sites to find parts at other than ebay?
im drawing a blank on finding anything to atleast start pricing stuff

[SupraKid]

Check out the megans in the FS section

[kurt95gt]

Check out the megans in the FS section

to bad I wont have them money till after october

[RabidTRD]

Springs don't add a whole lot for performance, they're more for looks.

Totally not true. Stiffer springs improve cornering ability. The lower they are, the better the cornering ability due to lower center of gravity. Accompanied with a stiff strut (or adjustable), it almost nullifies the need for a stiffer swaybar.

I'm running Koni Special D's with Eibach Sportline springs and couldn't be happier. Usually you can find KYB and Eibach setups for a good price and are definitely the route to go for minor lowering and performance modification.

I wouldn't spend the $1000+/- on good coilovers unless you're serious about driving hard.

[kurt95gt]

I mainly go the the drag strip
but I like the feel after a stiff/tight suspension

on a side note 2 of my 3 favorite celica are in this thread now lol

[jordisonjr]

Im just going by what I remember reading here: http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=80081&hl=

[kurt95gt]

that's a really good write up
my last 3 cars have bern a victims of overpowering
but im normally only Goin fast in a straight line
an I love the look of a slammed car
I don't mind the harsh ride though (wife hates it though)

[pandakid]

my buddy had ebay coilovers on his civic and it was slammed,very bouncy and very dangerous.He hit a hole and lost control and total the car.Sometimes is cheaper to buy qulity parts.Dont risk it.

[kurt95gt]

yea my old civic had aerospeed coilovers an teneko sttits (can't member how to spell it )
its was slammed an it drove fine

[kurt95gt]

will those kyb gr2 struts work with coilovers?

[trdproven]

i have Teins on my other celi, the basics and they are crap too and its even a legit brand, how much more those crap ebay coil sleeves.

[kurt95gt]

im thinking kyb gr2 struts an aerospeed yellow coilovers
that is if gr2 work with coilivers

im thinking kyb gr2 struts an aerospeed yellow coilovers
that is if gr2 work with coilivers

[block]

lol ebay coilovers are decent. i had mines for over a year on my corolla and it drove fine. only problems were: they were bouncy and you didn't know when they were going to break LOL. i believe the new owner still has em' on to this day (3 years)!

[kurt95gt]

lol ebay coilovers are decent. i had mines for over a year on my corolla and it drove fine. only problems were: they were bouncy and you didn't know when they were going to break LOL. i believe the new owner still has em' on to this day (3 years)!

I think im gonna stay away from ebay coilovers this time lol
but ill probably end up ordering off ebay lol
if I can do it all cheap enough im gonna try an get better sway bars too

[block]

No I'm not recommending you get it lol. Just saying they ok for cheap ****.

[czwalga]

I'd say 95% atleast of the people that buy coilovers in general do not drive there car hard enough to know the difference between a $800 vs $12,000 coilovers.

[kurt95gt]

I'd say 95% atleast of the people that buy coilovers in general do not drive there car hard enough to know the difference between a $800 vs $12,000 coilovers.

yea your probably right
I normally go to the dragstrip 4or5 times a year
an put a honda or 2 in its place everyonce in awhile lol
so im just looking for something that's going ti look good

right now Im looking into kyb gr2 struts an 2im inch drop springs
then maybe some swaybars

[richee3]

Sounds to me like you don't drive your car hard enough for coilovers. I'd just go for replacement struts and springs if I were you. With coilovers, you'll be paying more money just to have a certain look. $800+ for a look isn't worth it to me when you get a very similar look with perfect function for your needs for $400-500.

[kurt95gt]

Sounds to me like you don't drive your car hard enough for coilovers. I'd just go for replacement struts and springs if I were you. With coilovers, you'll be paying more money just to have a certain look. $800+ for a look isn't worth it to me when you get a very similar look with perfect function for your needs for $400-500.

yea that's why I've kinda desided to go with some drop springs an kyb struts
later on down the road I would like to try running an autocross race or two but that's along way off so im just going with s simple low buck setup an if that's not stiff enough for my liking ill add some better swaybars

[matts94celica]

I got Monroe Sensa-Trac struts and Tenzo R drop springs and they're good. Its 1.8 inches lower. I payed a lil more over 200 for struts (friend at advanced auto gave me a 15$ discount on each strut ) and I got the Tenzo R's on ebay for 70$ w/ free shippings brand new but box was beat to hell looked like it was sitting forever. But I figure 300$ is good enought for brand new springs and struts when my bro paid 160+ per strut for his 2g eclipse. Haha. That's just my .02.
-Matt

[kurt95gt]

I got Monroe Sensa-Trac struts and Tenzo R drop springs and they're good. Its 1.8 inches lower. I payed a lil more over 200 for struts (friend at advanced auto gave me a 15$ discount on each strut ) and I got the Tenzo R's on ebay for 70$ w/ free shippings brand new but box was beat to hell looked like it was sitting forever. But I figure 300$ is good enought for brand new springs and struts when my bro paid 160+ per strut for his 2g eclipse. Haha. That's just my .02.
-Matt

ok ill have to look into thoughs struts since I got a buddy at autozone that normally gives me discounts
but im on hold on lowering since my axle took a crap today
so hopefully I can order parts next week

[trdproven]

coilovers are for adjustability, if you have a certain drop height you can deal with get those springs and get the shocks you want. pick a good combination, they perform pretty well. For me, I like adjustability.

[hizzle369]

I wouldn't put Ebay coilovers on your Celica;
The ride is just HORRID.

[kurt95gt]

as of right now my plan is to get the set of ebay coilovers my buddy has an throw them on to play with the right height so see how low of a stance I want then order springs to machine that height
then set the coilovers back for the 91 civic so ill be getting soon (I buy busted up hondas fix them up an sell them)