Feb 16, 2013 - 2:00 PM
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Follow my topic cause in the next months i'm going to put a 4AGE 20V Blacktop engine in my 1998 Celica 7AFE. I just love the noise and revs of the Blacktop. I was also doubting about the Beams, but that engine was much more expensive, so the Blacktop wil be the one for me at the moment. Thought also about the 1MZ-FE, but it hasn't been done a lot in Holland and the engines cannot be find over here.
So i've order the blacktop with all the ancillaries, i think at least, and through club4ag.com i've ordered an uncut wiring harness and ECU from a 6 speed m/t. I'm going to use my own C52 gearbox. So will be continued soon..... This post has been edited by onnaj: Aug 28, 2013 - 6:28 AM -------------------- |
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Mar 4, 2013 - 6:04 PM
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I've been very busy with cleaning and tearing down the engine apart. What a sludge it has. Some people never seen so much sludge in any engine at all. They all say that it was used for short distances and hadn't have any regular maintenance at all or at least very little.
I'm going to bring my head, cams and bottom end to a shop that has a special washer for these parts. I don't want any sludge in my oil passages. I've already cleaned the cam bridge, cam cover, cams, etc with brake cleaner, furnace cleaner and 60 degrees high pressure engine clearance. Didn't use the last one on my cams though Check my imageshack album for the 'blacktop tearing apart and rebuild' here. I've ordered a lot of parts like: 1) Distributor cap 2) Rotor 3) Engine overhaul gasket kit 4) Water pump 5) Oil pump 6) Complete timing belt kit, with new tensioner cause they tend to fail when they're getting old 7) Coil and igniter 8) Spark plugs 9) Spark plug wires, not genuine but Seiwa. Hopefully they'll do the job 10) Clutch disc 11) Clutch pressure plate 12) Silvertop flywheel (couldn't get a blacktop anywhere...this one weighs 1kg more Besides that i'm going to order piston rings, crankshaft and conrod bearings. But i need to know if the rehone can be done without needing oversize rings. I also need to know which number the bearings have and for that i have to check the engine again for the numbers. And i have to sell my turbokit for extra money I have to admit that i'm happy that i first opened the cam cover! My idea was to just get the engine, put it into the engine bay and drive, but i don't think that would get my far. With this ammount of sludge a problem (oil usage for example) has to appear very soon. So a tip for everyone who's doing a swap. Double your money!! You don't want to just put an engine like this in and drive. This will cost you more but if you drive normally and respect operating temperatures your engine will last another 200.000 km for sure! And today i talked to a friend which happen to work at the DAF garage in Holland. DAF builds trucks especially for europe, don't know about the USA. He's busy with writing and making schemes / wiring diagrams for the engine, chassis, etc so he'd really like to help me with the wiring. That's handy for sure! I don't think the wiring will be a bitch. The 7AFE and 4AGE 20V Blacktop are a lot the same! I can and will use the 7AFE harness and solder, repin, add extra wires (for example the VVT), use the 4AGE 3th connector (cause it's different), etc and then it'll be ready. Hopefully about 6-8 hours. ps: If you'd like me to put the photo's here directly instead of a link to imageshack, then please let me know. Any alternatives to imageshack are welcome also! This post has been edited by onnaj: Mar 4, 2013 - 6:07 PM -------------------- |
onnaj Onnaj's 1998 Celica ST to 4AGE 20V Blacktop conversion Feb 16, 2013 - 2:00 PM
Smaay you telling me there are no camrys, RX300, ES300, ... Feb 16, 2013 - 2:15 PM
Nihil About blacktop - are you going to swap 7A-FE for 4... Feb 16, 2013 - 4:56 PM
onnaj QUOTE (Smaay @ Feb 16, 2013 - 8:15 P... Feb 17, 2013 - 9:03 AM
richee3 What about a Toyota Harrier? Asking simply because... Feb 16, 2013 - 6:22 PM
Dutch951 Interested in following this swap! Hope all go... Feb 17, 2013 - 8:35 AM
onnaj This is how the car is at the moment:
I... Feb 18, 2013 - 3:31 AM
onnaj I've bought an old 7afe (without airco ) harne... Feb 22, 2013 - 8:57 AM
celica74 While you have the motor out and rebuilding it, i ... Mar 4, 2013 - 9:10 PM
onnaj Maybe i'm going to do that in the future. That... Mar 6, 2013 - 7:01 AM
Smaay your logic escapes me but best of luck to you Mar 6, 2013 - 3:30 PM
BonzaiCelica how much does a helical lsd add to the s54 transmi... Mar 7, 2013 - 1:13 AM
onnaj I don't know exactly, but if i'd buy a Cel... Mar 7, 2013 - 12:28 PM
onnaj So i got a lot of stuff in today again
1) Piston... Mar 18, 2013 - 1:11 PM
delusionz sorry to go off topic but forget 7age, when you bu... Mar 18, 2013 - 4:44 PM
onnaj QUOTE (delusionz @ Mar 18, 2013 - 10... Mar 19, 2013 - 8:22 AM
rave2n QUOTE (onnaj @ Mar 19, 2013 - 8:22 A... Mar 20, 2013 - 11:40 AM
onnaj QUOTE (rave2n @ Mar 20, 2013 - 5:40 ... Mar 21, 2013 - 3:44 AM
delusionz anyways, nice to see a blacktop in a Celica, sound... Mar 18, 2013 - 4:49 PM
onnaj try to add pictures tomorrow!
New pistons, ne... Mar 22, 2013 - 5:37 PM
onnaj Yesterday we've mounted the oil pump and water... Mar 24, 2013 - 4:54 AM
rave2n Quick work!
Never seen such detail inside thi... Mar 24, 2013 - 9:46 AM
onnaj Last week we have been busy again. And damn what w... Mar 30, 2013 - 4:06 AM
onnaj So cleaned the head up a bit with mr muscle, now i... Mar 31, 2013 - 2:00 PM
playr158 Motor progress looks great! gotta love 20v goo... Mar 31, 2013 - 2:34 PM
onnaj So despite Eastern i was able to do a little work ... Apr 1, 2013 - 10:20 AM
onnaj So, been busy again. Yes it's almost looking a... Apr 2, 2013 - 2:41 PM
enderswift Good work. Rebuilding your own engine sure is sati... Apr 2, 2013 - 4:50 PM
onnaj This is really satisfying yes! And i know now... Apr 3, 2013 - 6:50 AM
Legen-dary Nice job trying something different! The black... Apr 4, 2013 - 10:39 AM
onnaj QUOTE (Legen-dary @ Apr 4, 2013 - 5... Apr 4, 2013 - 3:04 PM
Legen-dary QUOTE (onnaj @ Apr 4, 2013 - 1:04 PM... Apr 5, 2013 - 12:38 PM
onnaj QUOTE (Legen-dary @ Apr 5, 2013 - 7... Apr 5, 2013 - 3:29 PM
onnaj Update time with better pix
Have been really bus... Apr 12, 2013 - 5:07 PM
onnaj That was yesterday news to be honest. But i wanted... Apr 12, 2013 - 5:15 PM
b22ri22an porting and polishing my 5sfe head made a big diff... Apr 14, 2013 - 3:50 AM
onnaj QUOTE (b22ri22an @ Apr 14, 2013 - 10... Apr 14, 2013 - 12:56 PM
onnaj Time for another update:
Have been busy a lot wit... Apr 15, 2013 - 3:36 PM
TheCreatorOf QUOTE (onnaj @ Apr 15, 2013 - 3:36 P... Apr 25, 2013 - 10:57 PM
celica74 how much fun did you have porting? this is how i f... Apr 17, 2013 - 7:37 PM
onnaj QUOTE (celica74 @ Apr 18, 2013 - 2:3... Apr 18, 2013 - 1:49 AM
onnaj Yes i'm happy!! Today the engine head ... Apr 18, 2013 - 4:16 PM
onnaj Updating time!
Yesterday i've managed to ... Apr 20, 2013 - 5:32 PM
cjh4l22 why you no c160?! Apr 25, 2013 - 8:04 PM
Legen-dary Um yeah, gloss black engine parts can look really ... Apr 25, 2013 - 11:02 PM
onnaj So has been a long time since the last updates but... May 27, 2013 - 5:07 AM
SwissFerdi Gefeliciteerd, gaaf. May 27, 2013 - 6:36 AM
onnaj Danku! May 27, 2013 - 1:09 PM
cheela awesome work! glad you figured everything out. Jun 4, 2013 - 2:39 PM
onnaj QUOTE (cheela @ Jun 4, 2013 - 9:39 P... Jun 4, 2013 - 3:50 PM
WannabeGT4 QUOTE (onnaj @ Jun 4, 2013 - 3:50 PM... Jun 4, 2013 - 4:47 PM
onnaj Because my car had a car appraisal today i cleaned... Jun 9, 2013 - 3:18 AM
Legen-dary Wow, it looks really nice! I like the rusty e... Jun 9, 2013 - 4:41 PM
onnaj QUOTE (Legen-dary @ Jun 9, 2013 - 1... Jun 10, 2013 - 3:30 AM
onnaj I had a pretty decent appraisal, don't know if... Jul 1, 2013 - 5:51 AM
onnaj For the interested people, i've just shot a mo... Jul 6, 2013 - 9:38 AM
onnaj Update after a long time:
But important news....... Aug 27, 2013 - 6:51 AM
cheela sweet! post up another video after you put tho... Aug 27, 2013 - 8:25 AM
onnaj QUOTE (cheela @ Aug 27, 2013 - 3:25 ... Aug 28, 2013 - 6:30 AM
onnaj Some little updates...sorry no pictures this time ... Sep 16, 2013 - 10:05 AM
onnaj Long time no updates so here we go with some littl... Jan 23, 2014 - 4:35 AM
pinsro Could you time yourself doing a lets say 0-100 km/... Jan 26, 2014 - 3:21 PM
onnaj QUOTE (pinsro @ Jan 26, 2014 - 9:21 ... Jan 27, 2014 - 8:55 AM
SwissFerdi I didn't know the car was electronically limit... Jan 26, 2014 - 8:19 PM
BonzaiCelica My beams ecu is original n with my 215/45R17 i was... Nov 24, 2017 - 7:44 AM![]() ![]() |
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