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> Onnaj's 1998 Celica ST to 4AGE 20V Blacktop conversion, Next project: C160 LSD 6-speed gearbox :)
post Feb 16, 2013 - 2:00 PM
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onnaj

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Follow my topic cause in the next months i'm going to put a 4AGE 20V Blacktop engine in my 1998 Celica 7AFE. I just love the noise and revs of the Blacktop. I was also doubting about the Beams, but that engine was much more expensive, so the Blacktop wil be the one for me at the moment. Thought also about the 1MZ-FE, but it hasn't been done a lot in Holland and the engines cannot be find over here.

So i've order the blacktop with all the ancillaries, i think at least, and through club4ag.com i've ordered an uncut wiring harness and ECU from a 6 speed m/t. I'm going to use my own C52 gearbox.

So will be continued soon.....

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post Apr 4, 2013 - 10:39 AM
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Nice job trying something different! The blacktop is a good engine and though underpowered by modern comparison is still decent. I agree that the sound of a properly built blackop is wonderful! Anyways it looks like you're very detailed and doing your research so I'm sure it will turn out well. Good luck and looking forward to seeing the progress!


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post Apr 4, 2013 - 3:04 PM
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QUOTE (Legen-dary @ Apr 4, 2013 - 5:39 PM) *
Nice job trying something different! The blacktop is a good engine and though underpowered by modern comparison is still decent. I agree that the sound of a properly built blackop is wonderful! Anyways it looks like you're very detailed and doing your research so I'm sure it will turn out well. Good luck and looking forward to seeing the progress!


Thanks! I'll keep you all updated smile.gif

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Planning is to the rest of the head work and completely assembly the engine within about 2 weeks. In that time i might get my airbox and cam covers powdercoated. Not going for Stacks yet so the airbox need to look new! biggrin.gif

After that it's time to do the wiring. Got a lot of info already so the wiring shouldn't be a hell of a job. We'll keep the 7AFE harness and adapt the 4AGE 20V harness. Don't know if i told this already but a friend of mine works at DAF Netherlands. He does wirings and schematics all day long so that'll work out just fine.

When that's ready, yes it transplanting time! Need to get a throttle cable for that and then a looooooooong 1500 miles to run it in. (don't know if you call this that way in english language wink.gif)

So progress i being made over here!


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post Apr 5, 2013 - 12:38 PM
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QUOTE (onnaj @ Apr 4, 2013 - 1:04 PM) *
When that's ready, yes it transplanting time! Need to get a throttle cable for that and then a looooooooong 1500 miles to run it in. (don't know if you call this that way in english language wink.gif)


We call that a "break-in" period.


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Posts in this topic
- onnaj   Onnaj's 1998 Celica ST to 4AGE 20V Blacktop conversion   Feb 16, 2013 - 2:00 PM
- - Smaay   you telling me there are no camrys, RX300, ES300, ...   Feb 16, 2013 - 2:15 PM
|- - Nihil   About blacktop - are you going to swap 7A-FE for 4...   Feb 16, 2013 - 4:56 PM
|- - onnaj   QUOTE (Smaay @ Feb 16, 2013 - 8:15 P...   Feb 17, 2013 - 9:03 AM
- - richee3   What about a Toyota Harrier? Asking simply because...   Feb 16, 2013 - 6:22 PM
- - Dutch951   Interested in following this swap! Hope all go...   Feb 17, 2013 - 8:35 AM
- - onnaj   This is how the car is at the moment: I...   Feb 18, 2013 - 3:31 AM
- - onnaj   I've bought an old 7afe (without airco ) harne...   Feb 22, 2013 - 8:57 AM
- - onnaj   I've been very busy with cleaning and tearing ...   Mar 4, 2013 - 6:04 PM
- - celica74   While you have the motor out and rebuilding it, i ...   Mar 4, 2013 - 9:10 PM
- - onnaj   Maybe i'm going to do that in the future. That...   Mar 6, 2013 - 7:01 AM
- - Smaay   your logic escapes me but best of luck to you   Mar 6, 2013 - 3:30 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   how much does a helical lsd add to the s54 transmi...   Mar 7, 2013 - 1:13 AM
- - onnaj   I don't know exactly, but if i'd buy a Cel...   Mar 7, 2013 - 12:28 PM
- - onnaj   So i got a lot of stuff in today again 1) Piston...   Mar 18, 2013 - 1:11 PM
- - delusionz   sorry to go off topic but forget 7age, when you bu...   Mar 18, 2013 - 4:44 PM
|- - onnaj   QUOTE (delusionz @ Mar 18, 2013 - 10...   Mar 19, 2013 - 8:22 AM
|- - rave2n   QUOTE (onnaj @ Mar 19, 2013 - 8:22 A...   Mar 20, 2013 - 11:40 AM
|- - onnaj   QUOTE (rave2n @ Mar 20, 2013 - 5:40 ...   Mar 21, 2013 - 3:44 AM
- - delusionz   anyways, nice to see a blacktop in a Celica, sound...   Mar 18, 2013 - 4:49 PM
- - onnaj   try to add pictures tomorrow! New pistons, ne...   Mar 22, 2013 - 5:37 PM
- - onnaj   Yesterday we've mounted the oil pump and water...   Mar 24, 2013 - 4:54 AM
- - rave2n   Quick work! Never seen such detail inside thi...   Mar 24, 2013 - 9:46 AM
- - onnaj   Last week we have been busy again. And damn what w...   Mar 30, 2013 - 4:06 AM
- - onnaj   So cleaned the head up a bit with mr muscle, now i...   Mar 31, 2013 - 2:00 PM
- - playr158   Motor progress looks great! gotta love 20v goo...   Mar 31, 2013 - 2:34 PM
- - onnaj   So despite Eastern i was able to do a little work ...   Apr 1, 2013 - 10:20 AM
- - onnaj   So, been busy again. Yes it's almost looking a...   Apr 2, 2013 - 2:41 PM
- - enderswift   Good work. Rebuilding your own engine sure is sati...   Apr 2, 2013 - 4:50 PM
- - onnaj   This is really satisfying yes! And i know now...   Apr 3, 2013 - 6:50 AM
- - Legen-dary   Nice job trying something different! The black...   Apr 4, 2013 - 10:39 AM
|- - onnaj   QUOTE (Legen-dary @ Apr 4, 2013 - 5...   Apr 4, 2013 - 3:04 PM
|- - Legen-dary   QUOTE (onnaj @ Apr 4, 2013 - 1:04 PM...   Apr 5, 2013 - 12:38 PM
|- - onnaj   QUOTE (Legen-dary @ Apr 5, 2013 - 7...   Apr 5, 2013 - 3:29 PM
- - onnaj   Update time with better pix Have been really bus...   Apr 12, 2013 - 5:07 PM
- - onnaj   That was yesterday news to be honest. But i wanted...   Apr 12, 2013 - 5:15 PM
- - b22ri22an   porting and polishing my 5sfe head made a big diff...   Apr 14, 2013 - 3:50 AM
|- - onnaj   QUOTE (b22ri22an @ Apr 14, 2013 - 10...   Apr 14, 2013 - 12:56 PM
- - onnaj   Time for another update: Have been busy a lot wit...   Apr 15, 2013 - 3:36 PM
|- - TheCreatorOf   QUOTE (onnaj @ Apr 15, 2013 - 3:36 P...   Apr 25, 2013 - 10:57 PM
- - celica74   how much fun did you have porting? this is how i f...   Apr 17, 2013 - 7:37 PM
|- - onnaj   QUOTE (celica74 @ Apr 18, 2013 - 2:3...   Apr 18, 2013 - 1:49 AM
- - onnaj   Yes i'm happy!! Today the engine head ...   Apr 18, 2013 - 4:16 PM
- - onnaj   Updating time! Yesterday i've managed to ...   Apr 20, 2013 - 5:32 PM
- - cjh4l22   why you no c160?!   Apr 25, 2013 - 8:04 PM
- - Legen-dary   Um yeah, gloss black engine parts can look really ...   Apr 25, 2013 - 11:02 PM
- - onnaj   So has been a long time since the last updates but...   May 27, 2013 - 5:07 AM
- - SwissFerdi   Gefeliciteerd, gaaf.   May 27, 2013 - 6:36 AM
- - onnaj   Danku!   May 27, 2013 - 1:09 PM
- - cheela   awesome work! glad you figured everything out.   Jun 4, 2013 - 2:39 PM
|- - onnaj   QUOTE (cheela @ Jun 4, 2013 - 9:39 P...   Jun 4, 2013 - 3:50 PM
|- - WannabeGT4   QUOTE (onnaj @ Jun 4, 2013 - 3:50 PM...   Jun 4, 2013 - 4:47 PM
- - onnaj   Because my car had a car appraisal today i cleaned...   Jun 9, 2013 - 3:18 AM
- - Legen-dary   Wow, it looks really nice! I like the rusty e...   Jun 9, 2013 - 4:41 PM
|- - onnaj   QUOTE (Legen-dary @ Jun 9, 2013 - 1...   Jun 10, 2013 - 3:30 AM
- - onnaj   I had a pretty decent appraisal, don't know if...   Jul 1, 2013 - 5:51 AM
- - onnaj   For the interested people, i've just shot a mo...   Jul 6, 2013 - 9:38 AM
- - onnaj   Update after a long time: But important news.......   Aug 27, 2013 - 6:51 AM
- - cheela   sweet! post up another video after you put tho...   Aug 27, 2013 - 8:25 AM
|- - onnaj   QUOTE (cheela @ Aug 27, 2013 - 3:25 ...   Aug 28, 2013 - 6:30 AM
- - onnaj   Some little updates...sorry no pictures this time ...   Sep 16, 2013 - 10:05 AM
- - onnaj   Long time no updates so here we go with some littl...   Jan 23, 2014 - 4:35 AM
- - pinsro   Could you time yourself doing a lets say 0-100 km/...   Jan 26, 2014 - 3:21 PM
|- - onnaj   QUOTE (pinsro @ Jan 26, 2014 - 9:21 ...   Jan 27, 2014 - 8:55 AM
- - SwissFerdi   I didn't know the car was electronically limit...   Jan 26, 2014 - 8:19 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   My beams ecu is original n with my 215/45R17 i was...   Nov 24, 2017 - 7:44 AM


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