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3S-GTE from 7A-FE?

Mar 23, 2004 - 9:26 PM
hurley97 View Member Profile Enthusiast Joined Mar 3, '04 From Portsmouth, RI Currently Offline Reputation: 33 (100%)	i was just wondering if it is at all possible to swap a 7A-FE engine for a 3S-GTE engine? whats woul dbe the best way to upgrade a 7A-FE engine? -------------------- 7A-FTE: It's not about the money. Our Beams Swap. I <3 Dustin---07/16/06

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Mar 26, 2004 - 4:17 PM

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QUOTE (toyotaspeed_90 @ Mar 26, 2004 - 10:58 AM)

the reason i say it isn't worth it..... the 4a-gze will drop right into the stock motor mounts with a 7a-fe.... and if need be, you can even use the same c52 tranny (good up to about 200hp)..... but the ae101/late ae92 e51 tranny with lsd would suffice

now... for the price..... a 3s-gte (if you pick up a low mileage one) costs more for just the motor than i've seen for several map based 4agze HALF CUTS... which is everything you could need plus more (and when you get the body panels, just re-sell them and make some of the money back). Plus you don't have any worry of custom parts.

now yes... the 3s-gte is much more potent and a much stronger engine. but with that, it is heavier, and with more power (and just FWD) you're going to have a lot of wheel hop (unless you're driving on slicks all day) whenever you try to accelerate quickly. And with the light weight of these cars, it doesn't take much to get them going.

plus the gze is just about as versatile as the 3s-gte is for upgrades.... there are even several twincharged ones out there.....

so, IMO a 3s-gte from a 7a-fe isn't worth it....

1. You can use the mounts that come with the clip or GT mounts, depending on which tranny you use.

2. Trannies are relatively inexpensive. A better tranny is worth the expense for the extra power.

3. 2nd 3S-GTE "clips" are usually around $1000 to $1500, roughly $400 more than a 4A-GZE. If you're going to spend the time, money, and effort on a swap, why not save up a little extra for this better option.

4. Custom parts? Nothing was customized with my swap, unless you call mating MR2 inner half-shafts with 1990 V6 Camry outer half-shafts a custom job.

5. Wheel hop? Yes, you'll wheel hop when you punch on the gas in 1st and 2nd gear. However, if you half-throttle, and punch it in the upper RPM's, this is negligible. It's not someone is gonna say, "Hey, I'll race you to the finish line in first gear." If you race someone from a rolling start (i.e. on the freeway, which I do not condone), there is NO wheel hop. Simply put, it's not difficult to learn how to drive a high-powered FF vehicle.

6. Overall, the pros outweigh the cons. If you're looking for SERIOUS power, I'd recommend paying the extra money for a 3S swap. If you're looking for decent power just so you can *cough* beat all those Honda's that you all have trouble beating *cough*, then go with a 4A-GZE swap.

If you need someone to do your wiring, with have a respectable member on the boards that will do it for a great price. Mike (Qatar), the wiring master, will help you setup in no time.

I can see where you're coming from, toyotaspeed. But once you've actually driven a 3S-GTE power Celica, you really won't understand that this swap is worth every penny.

Just my $0.02.

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hurley97 3S-GTE from 7A-FE? Mar 23, 2004 - 9:26 PM

ghostdog this topic has been covered. have you tried the se... Mar 23, 2004 - 10:43 PM

Supersprynt 3SGTE...is that some sort of futuristic space shut... Mar 23, 2004 - 10:57 PM

kuya1284 QUOTE (hurley97 @ Mar 23, 2004 - 7:26 PM) i w... Mar 24, 2004 - 1:18 AM

Supersprynt QUOTE (kuya1284 @ Mar 24, 2004 - 1:18 AM) QUOTE (h... Mar 24, 2004 - 1:20 PM

RedSunCelica QUOTE (Supersprynt @ Mar 24, 2004 - 11:20 AM) QUOT... Mar 24, 2004 - 8:54 PM

CelicaSTX02 QUOTE (RedSunCelica @ Mar 24, 2004 - 6:54 PM) QUOT... Mar 25, 2004 - 2:06 AM

macavely ya'll people are wrong.. funny none the less b... Mar 25, 2004 - 3:29 AM

kuya1284 QUOTE (macavely @ Mar 25, 2004 - 1:29 AM) ya'l... Mar 25, 2004 - 4:31 AM

macavely QUOTE (kuya1284 @ Mar 25, 2004 - 4:31 AM) QUOTE (m... Mar 25, 2004 - 7:58 AM

Supersprynt I dont think there are THAT many reposts that the ... Mar 25, 2004 - 1:28 PM

kuya1284 QUOTE (Supersprynt @ Mar 25, 2004 - 11:28 AM) I do... Mar 25, 2004 - 1:43 PM

zipstrips he should be able to help himself, and ask a more ... Mar 25, 2004 - 8:18 PM

toyotaspeed_90 QUOTE (zipstrips @ Mar 26, 2004 - 1:18 AM) he shou... Mar 26, 2004 - 2:48 AM

celica3sgte Why isn't it worth it. here is how to go from... Mar 26, 2004 - 3:42 AM

kuya1284 QUOTE (celica3sgte @ Mar 26, 2004 - 1:42 AM) Why i... Mar 26, 2004 - 11:33 AM

ghostdog damnit ray, fix up your car and submit to some mag... Mar 26, 2004 - 11:43 AM

toyotaspeed_90 the reason i say it isn't worth it..... the 4a... Mar 26, 2004 - 12:58 PM

kuya1284 QUOTE (toyotaspeed_90 @ Mar 26, 2004 - 10:58 AM) t... Mar 26, 2004 - 4:17 PM

kuya1284 QUOTE (gh0st_d0g @ Mar 26, 2004 - 9:43 AM) damnit ... Mar 26, 2004 - 4:18 PM

toyotaspeed_90 lol.... 1/2 cuts aren't that cheap everywhere ... Mar 26, 2004 - 4:24 PM

kuya1284 QUOTE (toyotaspeed_90 @ Mar 26, 2004 - 2:24 P... Mar 26, 2004 - 4:43 PM

toyotaspeed_90 well.... a gze can put out quite a bit more than 2... Mar 26, 2004 - 9:15 PM

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