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post Feb 8, 2005 - 10:57 AM
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Hey, guys. Right now I have a 1997 ST with 7a-fe, auto transmission. I want to do a complete conversion to a 3s-gte, manual transmission. I was wondering if anyone has a 3s-gte motor that they are trying to sell or if they know of a place that i can get one. Thanks guys!

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post Feb 8, 2005 - 4:15 PM
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Ok Ron, who did your swap? Do you have pictures of your swap?

Also: do you OWN a 6th gen? Or are you trying to sell a 4agze engine, This swap has been done, maybe a couple times in 6th gen Celicas? Your talking about "ease of getting your car going" but you've failed to mention that the wiring is very not easy, not well documented (or ever) and this completely eliminates that "ease" of having bolt on parts.

If your trying to sell your 4agze's to people because they are bolt on your not telling them the entire story, perhaps because your just trying to make money, I'm not sure. But the statement "just go 4agze" like its nothing, thats not knowing what your talking about. So dont come at me, someone whose been around for quite some time, knows quite a bit about this car, and tell me I dont kno what im talking about. I will definately post up some plots for you and everyone else to enjoy. I'm currently running about 200 to the wheels, untuned. You've said before the 4agze can handle 250 "properly tuned" reliablly. This is horsepiss for the 3sgte, where it has handled double that reliably.

Do not come into a forum, giving 1/2 truths so you can sell some engines. If you have a 6th gen, and have done a 4agze swap to that, then you will get your dues but I havent seen any sharing of information on a swap that people are starting to gain interest in.



whoa big fella. There is room here to disagree about what is "best" for st owners. Also, Ron is a well respected engine importer (almost an oxymoron these days) - just go look at his feedback on the mr2 board. Having someone like him post on our board is only a benefit. If you disagree with what he says, post a reply.

As for the wiring, just because it hasn't been done yet, doesn't mean its any more difficult than the 3s wiring. Matching wiring if you know what each pin is for is not rocket science. Also, if you don't want to study the diagrams and learn, there are dozens of places that will do it for $200-$500.


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i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
post Feb 8, 2005 - 5:45 PM
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QUOTE(jgreening @ Feb 8, 2005 - 5:15 PM)
whoa big fella.  There is room here to disagree about what is "best" for st owners.  Also, Ron is a well respected engine importer (almost an oxymoron these days) - just go look at his feedback on the mr2 board.  Having someone like him post on our board is only a benefit.  If you disagree with what he says, post a reply. 

As for the wiring, just because it hasn't been done yet, doesn't mean its any more difficult than the 3s wiring.  Matching wiring if you know what each pin is for is not rocket science.  Also, if you don't want to study the diagrams and learn, there are dozens of places that will do it for $200-$500.
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I believe the issue is nobody has been able to find the apropriate wiring diagrams for imported 4agze engines. thats why John (mynzeyes) went back to his 7a and FAQdaWorld has yet to complete his swap. Ron may very well be a standup guy with imense knowledge on the 4agze but the fact remains until we find the wiring diagrams for the different jdm gz's this swap can't be recommended.

Posts in this topic
- blaque_6thGen   want 3s-gte motor   Feb 8, 2005 - 10:57 AM
- - 3sgtegts   There are some who sell them. If you go to Buy/Sel...   Feb 8, 2005 - 12:40 PM
- - Supersprynt   I know this place, its called the Search Button, h...   Feb 8, 2005 - 12:47 PM
- - easternpiro1   I know im a rookie, but ive heard that if you want...   Feb 8, 2005 - 12:50 PM
- - Supersprynt   Whoever told you to "just go 4agze" does...   Feb 8, 2005 - 1:08 PM
|- - Mr2swift   QUOTE(Supersprynt @ Feb 8, 2005 - 6:08 PM)Who...   Feb 8, 2005 - 3:28 PM
- - lagos   http://www.geocities.com/zegoat2000/THESWAP.html 3...   Feb 8, 2005 - 1:11 PM
- - ghostdog   blaque_6thGen, please don't cross post from no...   Feb 8, 2005 - 1:35 PM
- - blaque_6thGen   hey, sorry about the cross-post, gh0st_d0g. i just...   Feb 8, 2005 - 1:58 PM
- - Supersprynt   Ok Ron, who did your swap? Do you have pictures of...   Feb 8, 2005 - 3:32 PM
- - jgreening   QUOTEOk Ron, who did your swap? Do you have pictur...   Feb 8, 2005 - 4:15 PM
|- - ghostdog   QUOTE(jgreening @ Feb 8, 2005 - 5:15 PM)whoa ...   Feb 8, 2005 - 5:45 PM
- - Jdog1385   yea ill be buying my 3sgte from ron this spring. ...   Feb 8, 2005 - 6:05 PM
- - blaque_6thGen   I have told a few people to go the 4agze route as ...   Feb 8, 2005 - 6:57 PM
- - Supersprynt   Maybe I should make myself more clear. I'm not...   Feb 8, 2005 - 8:39 PM
- - Mr2swift   Well for starters I did not try and sell anyone in...   Feb 8, 2005 - 10:58 PM
- - blaque_6thGen   hey, thanks guys. In the midst of what seems like...   Feb 9, 2005 - 6:55 AM
|- - Mr2swift   QUOTE(blaque_6thGen @ Feb 9, 2005 - 11:55 AM)...   Feb 9, 2005 - 1:54 PM
- - Supersprynt   Well theres always been upgrades to the stock turb...   Feb 9, 2005 - 8:11 AM
- - blaque_6thGen   ok, those sound like good points. but another ques...   Feb 10, 2005 - 11:42 PM
- - blaque_6thGen   ok, guys. I think that the whole debate over which...   Feb 11, 2005 - 12:29 AM


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