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post Mar 24, 2005 - 8:04 PM
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hey guys... someone please enlighten me!!! say i was gunna do the camry v6/solara tranny swap... i know i need the all-trac axles and the mr2t axles correct? my question is which all-trac axle CAN i use? st165, st185, or st205 axles??? or are they all the same??? confused.gif im a very confused individual! confused.gif

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post Jun 15, 2005 - 6:43 PM
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QUOTE(Consynx @ Jun 13, 2005 - 9:28 PM)
we're getting many different combos, this is a summary of what i've read so far.

here, i'll try to sum it all up, up until here:
-For Axles it's looking like Camry(91)/GT4 Outers and MR2(match yr w/ tranny) inners
-For Mounts, stock GT will work for front and rear, just need driver's mount from GT4
-For Shifter Linkage - GT4
-For Shift Cables - GT/GT4


this is just a summary.
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Let me just correct this a little bit.

Axels:

Inner shaft = MR2 Turbo (Match year of axel with year of tranny)
Outer shaft = 91 Camry V6 OR 91-93 All Trac

Mounts:

94-99 GT-Four mounts and brackets (front, rear, and driver side)
6th gen front mount ( be advised that with this front mount installed, we can't get the rear mount to line up, no matter if it's a all trac or mr2 mount)

Comments: I think the problem that people are having is that they are using different mounts for every side. Not all mounts are the same, and not all motor mount brackets are the same. For example, if you had all All Trac mounts but GT brackets, they will bolt up together BUT will not bold up to the crossmember becuase the bracket throws it off by an inch or half and inch. All of these things were problems i didn't want to face when i did my swap. That's why I decided to get all GT-Four mounts and brackets. I know that this setup works for a fact. If someone else has a diffrent setup, please post it. This way we can know what does work and what we can't seem to get to work. just my 2 cents.

Shift linkage and shifter cables are the same thing.



QUOTE(celica3sgte @ Jun 14, 2005 - 3:07 PM)
Those cables in the top pic(which are GT cables) will not work unless the horseshoe clip is modified to be thicker. Even then, I don't think they will work.  You can see the 1/4" gap between where the clip locks the cable in place and the back part. I put the gt cables in place with the e153 tranny, put the clips in that hold them in place, and there was so much slack that the cables wouldn't stay on the tranny.  Is that a good explanation?  I will circle the part which is different and then you can see the gap.

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Also, if you notice on the picture, the GT cables are a bit longer than that of a 94-99 GT-Four. I wasn't aware of the fact that the GT cables wouldn't be able to be cliped onto the MR2 tranny. I had talked to a guy at El Prototype before hand and he said that they could be used, but the problem was that once the GT cables are installed, they're so long that when shifting into 1st, 3rd, and 5th, the shifter get's too close to the consol where the sigarette lighter is at and you'll hit your hand all the time. Therefore, he advised me to use the GT-Fout cables because they're a little shorter and i wouldn't have to go through that problem. Just a thought.

This post has been edited by sphinx: Jun 15, 2005 - 6:48 PM

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- BBoYRuGGeD   axles...   Mar 24, 2005 - 8:04 PM
- - ZoomZoom   I know the st185 will work, but can somebody tell ...   Mar 25, 2005 - 10:07 AM
- - ZoomZoom   can somebody please answer this question !...   Mar 28, 2005 - 8:41 AM
- - Supersprynt   You need hybrid axles no matter what. You can use ...   Mar 28, 2005 - 10:32 AM
|- - Green_MachToy   QUOTE(Supersprynt @ Mar 28, 2005 - 3:32 PM)Yo...   Mar 29, 2005 - 11:40 AM
- - ZoomZoom   so the st205 outer shafts would work for the hybri...   Mar 28, 2005 - 11:41 AM
- - sphinx   I'm using Camry outer shafts and MR2 inner sha...   Mar 28, 2005 - 12:38 PM
- - Supersprynt   Sphinx whst kinda information and or knowledge do ...   Mar 28, 2005 - 2:47 PM
|- - BBoYRuGGeD   QUOTE(Supersprynt @ Mar 28, 2005 - 7:47 PM)Sp...   Mar 28, 2005 - 6:46 PM
- - Supersprynt   Well mounts are mounts and I have MR2 mounts and G...   Mar 28, 2005 - 11:42 PM
- - Supersprynt   Yeah thats what DMC said you were doing, where are...   Mar 29, 2005 - 12:21 PM
- - Green_MachToy   The first set I actualy seized the Joint up betwee...   Mar 29, 2005 - 1:21 PM
- - Supersprynt   Yeah unfortunately I dont have those. I was thinki...   Mar 29, 2005 - 2:13 PM
- - sphinx   i believe the axels that you're using ( st185 ...   Mar 30, 2005 - 2:11 AM
|- - Green_MachToy   What year axles from the Camry V6? I found new on...   Apr 6, 2005 - 7:15 PM
- - Supersprynt   Where'd you find your ST205 mounts? I have a c...   Mar 30, 2005 - 7:43 AM
- - sphinx   I had to order my mounts through the dealer. But y...   Mar 30, 2005 - 11:06 AM
- - Supersprynt   Excellent so it looks like what I'm going to e...   Mar 30, 2005 - 11:22 AM
|- - sphinx   Ok. Here are the part #'s for the motor mounts...   Apr 1, 2005 - 12:02 AM
- - Clipsetuner   I am using the Solara Tranny with my 3s swap with ...   Mar 30, 2005 - 12:55 PM
- - ZoomZoom   I thought your supposed to used the inner shaft of...   Mar 31, 2005 - 9:17 AM
- - celica3sgte   This is an excellent write up. However, I thought...   Jun 7, 2005 - 11:45 AM
- - Rjb23   Has everyone seen this yet? http://www.geocities....   Jun 7, 2005 - 12:35 PM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(Rjb23 @ Jun 7, 2005 - 12:35 PM)Has ever...   Jun 7, 2005 - 12:55 PM
- - lagos   have any of you guys ever found a good place to bu...   Jun 7, 2005 - 1:09 PM
|- - BBoYRuGGeD   QUOTE(lagos @ Jun 7, 2005 - 6:09 PM)have any ...   Jun 7, 2005 - 4:48 PM
- - celica3sgte   I know, I got a kit from there that was universal ...   Jun 7, 2005 - 3:52 PM
- - sphinx   sorry for the late response. My axels consist of...   Jun 7, 2005 - 6:00 PM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(sphinx @ Jun 7, 2005 - 6:00 PM)sorry fo...   Jun 7, 2005 - 6:01 PM
- - sphinx   QUOTE(jgreening @ Jun 7, 2005 - 3:01 PM)QUOTE...   Jun 7, 2005 - 6:15 PM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(sphinx @ Jun 7, 2005 - 6:15 PM)QUOTE(jg...   Jun 7, 2005 - 11:09 PM
- - celica3sgte   This is great info, more descriptive than we had b...   Jun 8, 2005 - 4:32 PM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(celica3sgte @ Jun 8, 2005 - 4:32 PM)Thi...   Jun 8, 2005 - 5:02 PM
- - lagos   be carefull with axels from advance auto, they use...   Jun 8, 2005 - 4:41 PM
- - lagos   i 2nd synchro mesh ! only problem is, im hav...   Jun 8, 2005 - 6:14 PM
- - celica3sgte   I found out today that the 91-92 st185 axles are i...   Jun 9, 2005 - 3:48 AM
- - sphinx   I'm using Redline MT-90 on my transmission. Ex...   Jun 9, 2005 - 1:34 PM
- - Rjb23   If you use the e153 tranny do you still need the a...   Jun 9, 2005 - 2:32 PM
- - celica3sgte   Here's what I used that worked. 92 mr2 lsd tra...   Jun 13, 2005 - 3:05 PM
- - Rjb23   have you tried the st185 back mount?   Jun 13, 2005 - 3:10 PM
|- - celica3sgte   QUOTE(Rjb23 @ Jun 13, 2005 - 1:10 PM)have you...   Jun 13, 2005 - 9:58 PM
- - Rjb23   I think you can use the st185 cross member, when I...   Jun 13, 2005 - 11:07 PM
- - Consynx   we're getting many different combos, this is a...   Jun 14, 2005 - 12:28 AM
|- - hesed77   QUOTE (Consynx @ Jun 14, 2005 - 1:28...   Sep 30, 2010 - 10:29 AM
- - defgeph   you have to specify which generations of gt4's...   Jun 14, 2005 - 1:30 AM
- - defgeph   GT And ST205 side by side. GT is the top one   Jun 14, 2005 - 1:43 AM
- - Consynx   i remember this pic, which is why i am...waiting f...   Jun 14, 2005 - 11:47 AM
- - celica3sgte   Those cables in the top pic(which are GT cables) w...   Jun 14, 2005 - 6:07 PM
- - sphinx   QUOTE(Consynx @ Jun 13, 2005 - 9:28 PM)we...   Jun 15, 2005 - 6:43 PM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(sphinx @ Jun 15, 2005 - 6:43 PM)Also, i...   Jun 15, 2005 - 10:44 PM
- - Rjb23   I would seriously suggest that someone call up xat...   Jun 15, 2005 - 8:38 PM
- - celica3sgte   I'll ask XAT when I get back into tampa next t...   Jun 15, 2005 - 11:09 PM
- - ems3s   I just tried using the st185 crossmember and it in...   Jun 18, 2005 - 11:18 PM
- - sphinx   QUOTE(ems3s @ Jun 18, 2005 - 8:18 PM) I belie...   Jun 20, 2005 - 10:38 AM
- - Consynx   so 204 are same as 205, but our 202 is different? ...   Jun 20, 2005 - 11:14 AM
- - ems3s   Not sure if you really mean st202 because that was...   Jun 21, 2005 - 7:37 AM
- - Supersprynt   Wow I havent seen this much GOOD information in a ...   Jun 21, 2005 - 10:39 AM
- - Consynx   he got his from a guy on here a while back parting...   Jun 21, 2005 - 10:53 AM
- - Supersprynt   Yeah I seen them go for $500 some places, tha...   Jun 21, 2005 - 10:56 AM
- - celica3sgte   Supersprint you can say that again, this is good i...   Jun 29, 2005 - 5:08 AM
- - lagos   if somone types up a nice post that has all the in...   Jun 29, 2005 - 12:32 PM
- - Consynx   mr2 tranny into celi = PITA   Jun 29, 2005 - 1:33 PM
- - Supersprynt   Time for a bump. This is a pic of the E153 rear...   Jul 13, 2005 - 9:19 PM
- - celicaracer18   I'm so glad XAt is doinf this for me. i don...   Jul 13, 2005 - 9:55 PM
- - Supersprynt   Has anybody tried using a GT front mount & LH ...   Jul 14, 2005 - 6:55 PM
- - Supersprynt   QUOTE(celica3sgte @ Jun 13, 2005 - 4:05 PM)94...   Jul 14, 2005 - 7:13 PM
- - 6G94celica   ok ok ok god this is hard to comprehend all this b...   Dec 16, 2006 - 12:16 AM
|- - BBoYRuGGeD   QUOTE(6G94celica @ Dec 16, 2006 - 5...   Dec 16, 2006 - 10:00 AM
- - celica3sgte   Bboy is correct. The st205 front insulator and mo...   Dec 17, 2006 - 6:32 PM
- - 6G94celica   ok so are all the mounts that are able to be used ...   Dec 19, 2006 - 10:11 PM
- - stephen_lee   FML   Sep 30, 2010 - 7:28 PM
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