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post Feb 13, 2006 - 9:21 PM
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What up! In your guys opinion, what would be the best intake for the 6gc 94 hatch. I'm not looking for something too loud, my girlfriend would get nuts. I'm just looking for something to improve gas mileage, add a little HP, sound nice, and just be a good mod for the car. Engine is all stock, so let me know. Thanks... Oh, not sure if this belongs in this section, but I didn't know where else to put it. THanks again

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post Feb 16, 2006 - 6:32 AM
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Hello everybody i'm new here but I would like to give my .02 about intakes from a engineering prespective.. bare with me

The popular belief is that CAI performs better than SRI is because CAI suck in colder air but infact the difference in IAT are negligible. The advantage of the CAI lies in fluid dynamics. The best intake maximize both air flow velocity (under engine vacumm) and volumetric efficiency (cylinder filling).. that is done using the correct lenghts and cross sectional diameter of piping for a particular engine. For example a tube with a smaller cross sectional area would maximize air flow and volumetric efficency at lower RPMs but would cut out and starve the engine of air at higher RPMs. A larger tube would sacrafice air flow velocity at lower RPMs but maximize volumetric efficency at high RPMs. A longer tube would create a pressure differential meaning faster intake air velocity but you would always run the risk of maxing out the volumetric efficency at higher RPMs.
Companies like AEM understand this and employ different piping diameters in their CAIs, for example the Intergra LS run 2.5", GSR run 2.75" and Type-R runs 3" due to their difference in redline and volumetric efficiency ranges compared to the rev band. Also if you notice their dyno graphs most of their gain lie in the mid RPM range, otherwise the dyno graphs would look like carbon copies of running a much cheaper SRI.

Most of the people who knows me know what a big JDM whore I am.. I guess its the new fad. but back to intake dynamics.. ever notice how just about every CAI manufacturer out there are american companies? AEM, Injen, Weapon R, etc. JDM is all about individual throttle body w/ velocity stacks, weird shaped CF intakes, and ARC induction boxes, I guess they're not as worried about "sucking in warm air from under the hood" as we are (no offense/ not directed to anybody here, I am just trying to put down the popular belief). Have anybody ever seen the weird shaped Carbon Fiber J's racing intake on hondas? believe it or not it's not just pretty looking, it's functional! The weird shape is in fact a taper tube design that tapers in from 3.5" at filter to 2.75" at the TB, volumetric efficiency graphs shows that a smooth taper design generates a better flow velocity than a constant diameter and generates more low and midrange power when compared to a traditional SRI, and since it's not a long tube, it would not max out at high RPM's like traditional CAIs. The Japanese calls these types of tapered intakes Tsuchinoko chambers. Also since the walls are made from composite it does not conduct as much heat as metal walled intake tubes we are all used to seeing, smart huh?

I would go on but I think everyone would be too bored out of their minds by now wink.gif

Posts in this topic
- yyet   In your opinion   Feb 13, 2006 - 9:21 PM
- - snapshotgt   cai (cold air intake)...over a short ram...those s...   Feb 13, 2006 - 9:27 PM
- - TheStreetzKing   injen hands down, tried 2 others all sucked   Feb 13, 2006 - 9:36 PM
- - bojangles_8686   PVC CAI nuff said   Feb 13, 2006 - 9:48 PM
- - Jaws4God   Accord 90ish Cold Air Intake... easy install and l...   Feb 13, 2006 - 9:54 PM
- - dustin15brown   is it a perfect fit?   Feb 13, 2006 - 9:57 PM
|- - Jaws4God   QUOTE(dustin15brown @ Feb 14, 2006 - 2...   Feb 13, 2006 - 10:08 PM
- - bojangles_8686   And if you get a cold air intake it would be good ...   Feb 13, 2006 - 9:59 PM
- - lilsteeg   now why not drop a pipe right in front of the tran...   Feb 13, 2006 - 11:18 PM
|- - blu94gt   QUOTE(lilsteeg @ Feb 13, 2006 - 10:1...   Feb 14, 2006 - 3:14 AM
- - CelicaZR   Another easy option would be to replace the air fi...   Feb 14, 2006 - 4:12 AM
- - NaKeD   Get the intake system off ebay I got the exact s...   Feb 14, 2006 - 10:37 AM
- - yyet   Are you serious??? Would it be good to buy a ...   Feb 14, 2006 - 6:17 PM
- - j0e_p3t   those ebay kits are just about as good as any inta...   Feb 14, 2006 - 6:39 PM
- - celiracer   i agree with streetzking. Injen hands down.   Feb 14, 2006 - 6:52 PM
- - yyet   Well, i'm not looking at spending tooo much, b...   Feb 14, 2006 - 8:03 PM
- - j0e_p3t   you should be asking the difference between a cold...   Feb 14, 2006 - 8:10 PM
- - yyet   is my stock intake sucking in hot air??? And is s...   Feb 14, 2006 - 9:00 PM
- - TheStreetzKing   they both scream, my injen has been the loudest.. ...   Feb 14, 2006 - 9:26 PM
- - NaKeD   the streetzking your injen looks mad, nice shiny b...   Feb 14, 2006 - 9:47 PM
- - yyet   what model number or whatever is your injen intake...   Feb 14, 2006 - 11:12 PM
- - TheStreetzKing   lol sall good, the injen one was specifically desi...   Feb 14, 2006 - 11:25 PM
- - celiracer   Ya my injen intake is loud. i mean ya i have cat-b...   Feb 14, 2006 - 11:53 PM
- - yyet   Celica GT Only w/Heat Shield 1994-99 212.50 250.00...   Feb 15, 2006 - 11:37 AM
- - j0e_p3t   hot air isn't bad. your car just goes a lil fa...   Feb 15, 2006 - 6:55 PM
|- - TheStreetzKing   QUOTE(j0e_p3t @ Feb 15, 2006 - 6:55 ...   Feb 15, 2006 - 8:59 PM
- - LewFX   ahh how many pointless intake threads are there go...   Feb 15, 2006 - 7:10 PM
- - HeavyStyle105   i have to agree with all the others injen is the b...   Feb 15, 2006 - 7:38 PM
- - lilsteeg   go to advanced auto parts mine sells injen intakes...   Feb 15, 2006 - 7:58 PM
- - Alchemist_57   my intake is stock now. i may end up getting a k...   Feb 15, 2006 - 8:03 PM
|- - blu94gt   QUOTE(Alchemist_57 @ Feb 15, 2006 - 7...   Feb 16, 2006 - 12:49 AM
- - j0e_p3t   QUOTE(TheStreetzKing @ Feb 15, 2006 - 5...   Feb 15, 2006 - 9:49 PM
- - snapshotgt   If you are really looking at an injen intake, this...   Feb 16, 2006 - 12:37 AM
- - TrdPnoy   I have a weapon r dragon intake I had 2 choices wi...   Feb 16, 2006 - 1:28 AM
- - jspexae102   Hello everybody i'm new here but I would like ...   Feb 16, 2006 - 6:32 AM
- - yyet   Thanks, but that really didn't help me much. ...   Feb 16, 2006 - 3:03 PM
- - pandakid   i order my injen intake i'll leave my comment ...   Feb 18, 2006 - 2:45 PM
- - djspike   QUOTE(TrdPnoy @ Feb 16, 2006 - 6:28 ...   Feb 18, 2006 - 9:10 PM
- - TrdPnoy   It's pretty loud   Feb 19, 2006 - 1:04 AM
- - pandakid   i heard weapon r's aren't good   Feb 19, 2006 - 4:07 AM
- - TrdPnoy   Like I said I can't complain even if I got an ...   Feb 19, 2006 - 3:29 PM
- - trdproven   I just ordered my Injen SRI, is it true that it is...   Feb 20, 2006 - 4:36 PM


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