Its that time again. Gas prices are raising!, Where do you live and what are the prices? Options

[x_itchy_b_x]

$3.02 a gallon for 93 octane.
in mass outside of worcester.
these prices are nuts! i want my old auto ST now

[Fastbird]

I realize you guys over in the UK pay a lot for gas (pretty much everywhere but the states), but I have something to tell you. WE IN THE STATES ARE NOT USED TO PAYING THIS MUCH!!! Stop griping to us about our complaining when we're used to a certain quality of life, and when gas prices take a 50% hike in a matter of a month, that changes what we're used to. You guys overseas are used to paying the high prices, and those high prices are largely in reason to the amount of taxes on them. That said,

The oil companies are feeling us out to see what we're willing to pay. There's absolutely no valid reason for how our gas prices have been raising recently. I've seen plenty of excuses thrown out, but no real reasons. I personally believe we need federal regulation of the petroleum industry here in the states to keep this incessant price gouging going. It's already being looked at in the natural gas sector, so hopefully it's only a matter of time before it hits the oil compaines too. Just give it a few more weeks until the oil companies start posting their rather large profits again and the government will start turning an eye towards them and they'll back off like what happened last fall.

[Mr_E]

but I have something to tell you. WE IN THE STATES ARE NOT USED TO PAYING THIS MUCH!!!

Tough. Get used to it. It's a non renewable resource, mainly produced by a cartel in an unstable region. The price is only going to go one way.

Stop griping to us about our complaining when we're used to a certain quality of life, and when gas prices take a 50% hike in a matter of a month, that changes what we're used to.

Damn. And how dare world politics and a little thing like the future energy sources for the entire species actually affect your quality of life..... I mean, it's not like it's important or anything.

You guys overseas are used to paying the high prices, and those high prices are largely in reason to the amount of taxes on them.

Mmmm. Tax indeed. Do you really want the Government to dictate fuel cost to you, because it happens here and the result is 300-400% tax on anything that fuels a car. Oh, and then we pay 17.5% tax on top of that.

When the crude oil price goes up a bit, the cost of fuel goes up a *lot*.

One thing is really interesting (for me). Information of octane number.

EU use 95,98 and 100 octane gas, but I see US has 87,89 and 91 octane gas... For same engines! Or I missed something?

Yup - you're missing the simple answer. US and Europe measure Octane slightly differently. We use RON, you use MON. MON is slightly more consistant I think.


This post has been edited by Mr_E: Apr 19, 2006 - 10:29 AM

[malpaso]

One thing is really interesting (for me). Information of octane number.

EU use 95,98 and 100 octane gas, but I see US has 87,89 and 91 octane gas... For same engines! Or I missed something?

Yup - you're missing the simple answer. US and Europe measure Octane slightly differently. We use RON, you use MON. MON is slightly more consistant I think.

Mr_E thank you, you hit the spot! FYI see this

Measurement methods

The most common type of octane rating worldwide is the Research Octane Number (RON). RON is determined by running the fuel through a specific test engine with a variable compression ratio under controlled conditions, and comparing these results with those for mixtures of isooctane and n-heptane.

There is another type of octane rating, called Motor Octane Number (MON), which is a better measure of how the fuel behaves when under load. MON testing uses a similar test engine to that used in RON testing, but with a preheated fuel mixture, a higher engine speed, and variable ignition timing to further stress the fuel's knock resistance. Depending on the composition of the fuel, the MON of a modern gasoline will be about 8 to 10 points lower than the RON. Normally fuel specifications require both a minimum RON and a minimum MON.

In most countries (including all of Europe and Australia) the "headline" octane that would be shown on the pump is the RON, but in the United States and some other countries the headline number is the average of the RON and the MON, sometimes called the Anti-Knock Index (AKI), Road Octane Number (RdON), Pump Octane Number (PON), or (R+M)/2. Because of the 10 point difference noted above, this means that the octane in the United States will be about 4 to 5 points lower than the same fuel elsewhere: 87 octane fuel, the "normal" gasoline in the US and Canada, would be 91 in Europe.

The octane rating may also be a "trade name", with the actual figure being higher than the nominal rating.

It is possible for a fuel to have a RON greater than 100, because isooctane is not the most knock-resistant substance available. Racing fuels, straight ethanol, Avgas and liquified petroleum gas (LPG) typically have octane ratings of 110 or significantly higher. Typical "octane booster" additives include tetra-ethyl lead and toluene. Tetra-ethyl lead is easily decomposed to its component radicals, which react with the radicals from the fuel and oxygen that would start the combustion, thereby delaying ignition.

BTW: I was bit confused because of one part of your answer "We use RON, you use MON" couse I'm from Europe , but now is everithig clear

[Mr_E]

BTW: I was bit confused because of one part of your answer "We use RON, you use MON" couse I'm from Europe , but now is everithig clear

Whoops. Sorry man. I just assumed and shouldn't have.