May 16, 2006 - 11:18 AM
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Hey all,
So, I've finally made my decision about what to do with the 5sfte, and ways to improve it, and as we all know one of the main areas that we're lacking is tuning, or lack there of, I should say! haha.. Anyway, I've been doing some research on the various piggybacks out there, and I've decided to go ahead and try the Greddy Emanage Ultimate. I'm gonna try and make this thread somewhat like my turbo thread, with lots of pictures and info, spread out over the whole experience from beginning to end. So, with that in mind, let me just go over a few things before I really start in with the 'Ultimate stuff. For those who havent seen the thread yet, or are new to the board, heres a link to my turbo thread. Click for my 5SFTE post That pretty much covers my particular setup, and what I've done with it to date. Just for the record, the car is driven daily, and NOT babied at all. That being said, as crazy as it may sound, I really DO believe there is more in it, and fairly reliably as well. Since the install last June, I've learned tons about how this thing we call the 5SFTE really works, why it does what it does, and I'm still learning tons and tons more about it everyday. I really cannot stress how important it is to try and learn as much as possible about your particular setup, what does and doesnt work, and why it does what it does. I think one of the main issues we need to look at is how the stock N/A ECU applies timing VS' say a stock 3SGTE ecu, which is one of our big hurdles when it comes to tuning, and IMO one of the main reasons alot of guys loose the 5sfte battle...lol I've noticed during my dyno runs, when i had the BTM installed, that the ECU REALLY seemed to be pulling ALOT of timing, right at 4450RPM, as you can see in this dyno run: ![]() At first i thought it may have somthing to do with the BTM, so I played with it some, and it seemed the more I turned it down, the less it seemed to pull back, so I finally got to the point where it was totally @ 0, and I removed it. Although i could still feel it pulling timing, it was ALOT better without the BTM, and here is my theory why: (this is JUST A THEORY, I AM NOT SAYING THIS IS WITHOUT A DOUBT WHATS HAPPENING, keep that in mind. the factory ECU has timing maps that are set for N/A operation. at the torque peak, there is just too much timing in the factory map for the amount of boost im trying to run, on pump gas. by the time the ecu reacts, im hitting the knock sensor, causing the ecu to pull out timing, and that coupled with the timing already being pulled by the BTM ( im WAY into full boost by then..lol) just makes the whole thing worse. I really think that with the features of the Emanage ultimate, I'll be able to totally solve that issue, and really improve my tune all around. First thing I've done, is head right over to www.greddy.com , and downloaded the installation and operation manuals from there. Once I did a little reading, I noticed some really cool features that I thing will REALLY help us get a MUCH improved tune on our 5SFTE's. heres a screenshot of some of the features it has: cool stuff. I'll keep updating this post over the next couple of days with lots more info and stuff.. for now, DISCUSS!! -------------------- Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)
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May 16, 2006 - 12:59 PM
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i played with an emanage the tunning on those things is sweeet. if u want some help give me a holla.
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presure2 My Emanage Ultimate experience May 16, 2006 - 11:18 AM
AllTrac96 with that ripp kit that i got i am going to sell t... May 16, 2006 - 2:14 PM
Silver94CelicaOwner Awesome post Manny. I can't wait to see how f... May 17, 2006 - 12:04 AM
shin i would like to know more bout this emanage ultima... May 17, 2006 - 11:27 PM
madmods I'm right behind you also Manny. Your alot mor... May 18, 2006 - 8:14 AM
presure2 QUOTE Your alot more gifted tuner then I'll ev... May 18, 2006 - 9:34 AM
OOBE Good stuff, man. It's gonna be great! May 18, 2006 - 12:28 PM
presure2 heres a screenshot of what the operational maps lo... May 19, 2006 - 6:27 AM
CilverSeliST205 Are you going to shell out some money for wideband... May 19, 2006 - 9:15 AM
presure2 QUOTE(CilverSeliST205 @ May 19, 2006 - 1... May 19, 2006 - 9:26 AM
presure2 QUOTE(CilverSeliST205 @ May 19, 2006 - 1... May 25, 2006 - 9:24 AM
CilverSeliST205 Good stuff! Looks like Ultimate is there half ... May 25, 2006 - 10:31 AM
presure2 QUOTE(CilverSeliST205 @ May 25, 2006 - 1... May 25, 2006 - 10:35 AM
97sccelica looks awesome.
if i ever turbo the celica again, ... May 19, 2006 - 3:35 PM
OOBE For wideband, I recommend an LM-1...very nice for ... May 19, 2006 - 7:50 PM
CilverSeliST205 Bump! How is the tuning going ? Any useful fea... May 22, 2006 - 9:56 AM
presure2 QUOTE(CilverSeliST205 @ May 22, 2006 - 1... May 22, 2006 - 10:23 AM
lagos QUOTEanother really cool feature of the 'ultim... May 25, 2006 - 12:53 PM
defgeph Manny, excellent work with all the research you a... May 30, 2006 - 12:01 AM
Rayme Are you saying that the BTM is kinda useless along... Jun 3, 2006 - 11:58 AM
presure2 well, for me, the BTM was usless.
the SAFCII does ... Jun 3, 2006 - 2:19 PM
CilverSeliST205 Any updates on this ? I can't let this thread ... Jul 21, 2006 - 12:36 PM
presure2 naa, not really, ive been really broke, so there h... Jul 21, 2006 - 1:54 PM
presure2 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...3244... Dec 11, 2006 - 6:14 PM
x_itchy_b_x NICE 5sfte emanage in the works. Dec 11, 2006 - 7:39 PM
defgeph Nice work ! You are the man. Dec 11, 2006 - 8:45 PM
lagos thats awesome. glad you finally got it. cant wait ... Dec 11, 2006 - 11:16 PM
Silver94CelicaOwner Manny, thats awesome news!! I wish you the... Dec 12, 2006 - 12:27 AM
Conwa Does this unit come with al the sensors en harness... Dec 12, 2006 - 1:25 PM
presure2 QUOTE(Conwa @ Dec 12, 2006 - 1:25 PM... Dec 12, 2006 - 4:39 PM
elvasoshexai wow.. that's a really good price... is that th... Dec 13, 2006 - 11:24 AM
presure2 QUOTE(elvasoshexai @ Dec 13, 2006 - 11... Dec 13, 2006 - 4:41 PM
presure2 ok, heres a "cheat sheet" wiring diagram... Dec 13, 2006 - 8:14 PM
NuclearHappineS dude if you cropped that picture it would've b... Dec 14, 2006 - 11:00 AM
presure2 QUOTE(NuclearHappineS @ Dec 14, 2006 - 1... Dec 14, 2006 - 5:04 PM
presure2 another update on the goings on with my emanage ul... Dec 17, 2006 - 10:06 AM
shin awesome manny. wish i could've kept the celi t... Dec 17, 2006 - 11:06 AM
NuclearHappineS you not pick 3sgte (PR) which should be a gen 3/4 ... Dec 17, 2006 - 11:26 AM
presure2 QUOTE(NuclearHappineS @ Dec 17, 2006 - 1... Dec 17, 2006 - 1:45 PM
WALKER Best of Luck! I hope all works out great for ... Dec 18, 2006 - 1:28 PM
presure2 got the unit in today, its smaller than i pictured... Dec 21, 2006 - 7:05 PM
x_itchy_b_x SICCCK. yeah isnt it crazy how small they are. i t... Dec 21, 2006 - 8:37 PM
defgeph Awesome dude, congrats !
keep us updated ..... Dec 22, 2006 - 12:15 AM
presure2 WOOOOOOOOOOOOOT
its in, and running!!... Dec 24, 2006 - 9:52 PM
x_itchy_b_x nice man!!! cant wait to hear more. Dec 24, 2006 - 10:05 PM
shin NICE~. show us comparison of dyno charts after don... Dec 26, 2006 - 4:13 PM
presure2 ok guys...i have been very sick since last week, s... Dec 26, 2006 - 7:03 PM
playr158 Nice Manny, looks like its coming along well
welc... Dec 27, 2006 - 1:29 AM
lagos I believe this graph shows us the recent seismic a... Dec 27, 2006 - 2:08 AM
presure2 thanks guys, yea, art, your right, i WILL be buzy ... Dec 27, 2006 - 3:33 AM
NuclearHappineS can it log total timing ... what's your total ... Dec 27, 2006 - 1:53 PM
presure2 QUOTE(NuclearHappineS @ Dec 27, 2006 - 1... Dec 28, 2006 - 11:40 AM
x_itchy_b_x QUOTE(presure2 @ Dec 28, 2006 - 1:40... Dec 28, 2006 - 11:45 AM
lagos QUOTEThis is gunna effect the 5sfte community imme... Dec 28, 2006 - 1:03 PM
Hanyo QUOTE(lagos @ Dec 28, 2006 - 10:03 A... Dec 30, 2006 - 4:36 AM
elvasoshexai w00t! i just recieved mine from the same selle... Jan 22, 2007 - 12:15 AM
WannabeGT4 Hey Manny, Can the ultimate lock the timing so tha... Jun 7, 2007 - 1:44 PM
presure2 QUOTE(WannabeGT4 @ Jun 7, 2007 - 2:4... Jun 7, 2007 - 4:20 PM
OOBE Poor Manny, hehehe. Jun 8, 2007 - 11:49 PM
NuclearHappineS Sup man,
This is off topic (for my benz) ...
C... Jul 6, 2008 - 3:52 AM
presure2 QUOTE (NuclearHappineS @ Jul 6, 2008 - 4... Jul 6, 2008 - 11:24 AM
NuclearHappineS So I did some reading ...
** Use one analog in/ou... Jul 6, 2008 - 2:21 PM
xxFROZENxx nice manny.. what kind of harness kit are you usin... Jul 9, 2008 - 1:28 AM
NuclearHappineS only harness maker i know of...
http://www.booms... Jul 9, 2008 - 10:33 AM
WALKER QUOTE (NuclearHappineS @ Jul 9, 2008 - 9... Jul 10, 2008 - 4:29 PM
supershannon77 could u use the mr2 one? Jul 10, 2008 - 8:46 PM
xxFROZENxx was the hardness kit for a 3sge or is it a univers... Jul 17, 2008 - 1:41 AM
xxFROZENxx bump Jul 23, 2008 - 2:08 AM
presure2 universal. Jul 23, 2008 - 2:09 AM![]() ![]() |
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