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post Jan 9, 2007 - 2:19 PM
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Well guy and girls - i can proudly present another project witch i will try to document / write-up / expain to a smallest details as posible. The project is install of a Turbo kit to a Martin (malpaso) 96' ST celica.

Works begin tomorow - so i will try to write up every single day of work i will be spending on his car, all the jobs what was done, and what things are installed and WHY they are installed + how they work and etc. Hoping to make this write up to be usefull to a people who will be doing the same thing later, and for the people to understand better how things work and etc.

Keep and eye on this topic - cuz it will have lots of info and pics in the long run biggrin.gif

As for now - Martin celica is securly standing in my yeard - and Martin is traveling back home with the bus (20h drive oh man.... frown.gif ), so lets hope the owner will give his response in this topic later biggrin.gif

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post Jan 27, 2007 - 4:23 AM
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Ok, im fresh out of bed biggrin.gif And ready to write... yasterday from 10.30am till 8pm i spend in a dyno shop.... It was a crazy day, and it seems like this is not the end - will have to get back to the Dyno next week tusday..

First thing in the morning when i stared my jorney to the Dyno (about 60miles away from me) i was damn worried about the leak in the distributor - but i had no chance to fix, cuz i was short of time - so i thought ok i will fix it at the shop... Took all the tools needed and drove. Once i got to the dyno - al saw what i was missing about 1liter of oil in the engine - the there was not a leak in the distributor - it was a stream!

Started to rip all the things off:
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Took everything off - just to find what both seals (one small seal witch is inside of the distributor, and another one what goes into the head of the engine outside distributor) are leaking... Here how bad the leaking was, you can see all the gearbox swiming in the oil:
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After all the seals where removed - i had to walk till the nnearest shop witch sell the sears / rubber gaskets, it was about 2 mile walk till what shop biggrin.gif And keep in mind we have -15c outside here biggrin.gif So it was fun lol, came back to the Dyno all frozen like shiz biggrin.gif

Well finally fixed everything - got everything back, run the engine, drove the car all around - no leaking... ahhh biggrin.gif
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Now off to the Dyno - so we put the car on Dyno - and all the problems came jumping from all the corners... First thing was - we could not log into the Emanage - no matter what software we where using, nothing helped... No change to get online with the Emanage... After like 5 reinstalls of the Emanage software - finally we managed some how to log into it...
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First run was with the 0.4 bar (6Psi). Just to check if the last configuration (the one what i had on my ST-T) was suitible or not. Everything was fine - we where running A/F ratio at about 10 - sometimes 9.8 on the wideband (you can imagine how much rich this was biggrin.gif), And running this rich - spark plugs (denso Platinium) said enouth - and started to missfire...

So the densos where toast... The guys where like ok - i will give you the unbeatible spark plugs for free instead of these... So the guy vent to the garage, and came back holding 4 plugs what where looking like they where removed from some 20 years old engine, i was like WTF! And he goes - relax - these are from Audi S2 2.2l 20V engine - witch was running 400hp biggrin.gif i was ok ok give them a try biggrin.gif These where original Audi spark plugs - and no matter how they looked - they did the job perfectly - no missfiring, nothing!! The ignition was perfect... biggrin.gif
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Next thing what we woried about was the Tuning of the Emanage... Cuz the guy, who tuned my car before, was kicked out from the job, and this new guy was all crazy about the tuning and etc - he knew about 3 times more then enyone around biggrin.gif So he started to tune the emanage (upping the Boost) and the first question was - what MAP sensor you are running?? I was like STOCK... SO he goes - huston - we have a problem biggrin.gif It wasnt fun at all for me... The main problem is - what the Adjustments in the Emanage A/F table & Ignition tables are only availibe at the WOT and at the last row of the tables... This gives no room at all to tune up the car perfectly on the cruise mode... For example - no matter what boost the car would be tunning (0.1 or 1bar) the corrections would be the same for all the boost.... This happens becose the stock MAP only sees absolute atmosfreic pressure, and by correcting Injector size - the limits of the MAP are pushed back a bit (if the MAP voltage on the N/A enine on the WOT is 3.6v so now, after the Emanage corrections at the WOT 3.6v are once you hit the boost - and no matter what kind of boost...)

So it was basicly the same as running check valves and fooling the damn map.... Car ran ok on the WOT and Boost - but when trying to cruise - it was running either rich or at some places a bit too lean... Setup wasnt perfect at all...

If we could tune the car at all the posible conditions (different tune on the all posible boost levels) the HP numbers would be way higher... So now im trying to Locate 2Bar MAP sensor just to see if it would help us or not.

We tryed one of the Map sensors what guys use in the MegaSquirt setup (1.5bar map) but the Voltage chart was out of the Stock Ecu range - so it was nono..:
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So after some debating and trying to find the best solution - we set the other date for the Dyno at next week - and we will try to do somthing with the MAP...

For the finishing runs - we tryed 11psi - about 0.9bar of boost - but the CLUTCH (DAMN CLUTCH - i said marting - i SAID from the very begining WE NEED DAMN CLUTCH) gave out totaly! It was imposible to even run the car on the dyno - so im not talking about road conditions at all... So we left the Boost controler set at 0.6 bar boost - and i drove home... Car feels ok - its is 100 posible to drive it without major problems - but it is running crazy rich and every time you let off the trotle at about 4K rpm - and hit it again - you hear BOOM coming out of the exhaust cuz of the unburned fuel...

So for now - whats all - Marting - we need to talk about the Clutch situation - cuz I will not let you drive back home with the Clutch like this!!!!


P.S. About Emanage wiring - i will post all the wiring for the OBDI and OBDII guys! just what i dont want to spend time NOW draving everything and writing - cuz time now is my worst enemy cuz the car has to be ready to drive back at next week - Friday.








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Posts in this topic
- doGGy   7AFE Turbo kit install by DCW   Jan 9, 2007 - 2:19 PM
- - Kadett   20H drive?!?! Damnz.... then.. the car is ...   Jan 9, 2007 - 2:24 PM
|- - doGGy   QUOTE(Kadett @ Jan 9, 2007 - 12:24 P...   Jan 9, 2007 - 2:29 PM
- - OOBE   Subscribing...   Jan 9, 2007 - 3:19 PM
- - trd94   i will be keeping a eye on this, i want to see a p...   Jan 9, 2007 - 3:27 PM
- - Drew-887   I can't wait to see this project finished. May...   Jan 9, 2007 - 4:41 PM
- - Fate   watching this thread to the fullest, please don...   Jan 10, 2007 - 12:06 AM
- - snapshotgt   Martin, you have a nice, clean Celica -- i'm s...   Jan 10, 2007 - 12:23 AM
- - presure2   looking forward to your results romas!   Jan 10, 2007 - 4:32 AM
- - TomPoz   I had a pleasure to meet Martin on his way to Roma...   Jan 10, 2007 - 7:12 AM
- - WH95TE   In for later.   Jan 10, 2007 - 5:29 PM
- - malpaso   Back from death at last . Fell a sleep for many hr...   Jan 11, 2007 - 3:40 AM
- - doGGy   Well - tomorow is the day when everything starts. ...   Jan 11, 2007 - 1:14 PM
|- - Bitter   QUOTE(doGGy @ Jan 11, 2007 - 1:14 PM...   Jan 11, 2007 - 5:56 PM
- - shin   def looking forward to it.   Jan 11, 2007 - 1:41 PM
- - snapshotgt   With your setup in mind, how much hp are you going...   Jan 11, 2007 - 11:20 PM
- - doGGy   Just got back from GroundZero (company who did Lea...   Jan 12, 2007 - 1:17 PM
- - 6strngs   subscribing...   Jan 12, 2007 - 11:36 PM
- - doGGy   oooooook 4 hours of work - and my old ST turbo ki...   Jan 13, 2007 - 11:38 AM
|- - GTSOwner   QUOTE(doGGy @ Jan 13, 2007 - 11:38 A...   Jan 13, 2007 - 12:25 PM
|- - 6strngs   QUOTE(doGGy @ Jan 13, 2007 - 8:38 AM...   Jan 13, 2007 - 12:39 PM
|- - doGGy   QUOTE(6strngs @ Jan 13, 2007 - 10:39...   Jan 13, 2007 - 2:52 PM
- - Alan   Is a boost retarder included in Martins kit, he is...   Jan 13, 2007 - 3:19 PM
|- - doGGy   QUOTE(Alan @ Jan 13, 2007 - 1:19 PM)...   Jan 14, 2007 - 5:04 AM
|- - Alan   QUOTE(doGGy @ Jan 14, 2007 - 5:04 AM...   Jan 14, 2007 - 7:21 AM
|- - GTSOwner   QUOTE(Alan @ Jan 14, 2007 - 7:21 AM)...   Jan 14, 2007 - 11:16 AM
|- - doGGy   QUOTE(Alan @ Jan 14, 2007 - 5:21 AM)...   Jan 14, 2007 - 11:48 AM
|- - Alan   QUOTE(doGGy @ Jan 14, 2007 - 11:48 A...   Jan 14, 2007 - 12:29 PM
- - trd94   so are you wiring in the emanage your self or havi...   Jan 13, 2007 - 8:16 PM
- - trd94   thanks doGGy the wiring diagram would be great, as...   Jan 14, 2007 - 7:46 AM
- - Bitter   no megasquirt2? its a full standalone for 1/3 the...   Jan 14, 2007 - 12:26 PM
|- - doGGy   QUOTE(Bitter @ Jan 14, 2007 - 10:26 ...   Jan 14, 2007 - 12:59 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(doGGy @ Jan 14, 2007 - 12:59 P...   Jan 14, 2007 - 3:30 PM
- - malpaso   I would agree that unit can handle that "boos...   Jan 15, 2007 - 9:02 AM
- - doGGy   Update Got the Valve cover gaskets, still waiting...   Jan 15, 2007 - 12:22 PM
- - RoadDawg   Hey, nice project Is the turbo kit from one of yo...   Jan 16, 2007 - 8:14 AM
|- - doGGy   QUOTE(RoadDawg @ Jan 16, 2007 - 6:14...   Jan 16, 2007 - 9:33 AM
- - doGGy   OooOoOOK - here we go Finally. Got all the stuff...   Jan 19, 2007 - 1:15 PM
- - OrbitalGT95   not to hijack this thread but, has anyone ever sen...   Jan 19, 2007 - 1:21 PM
|- - doGGy   QUOTE(OrbitalGT95 @ Jan 19, 2007 - 11...   Jan 19, 2007 - 1:29 PM
- - Fate   lookin' good, can't wait to see it finishe...   Jan 20, 2007 - 3:14 PM
- - TomPoz   Good stuff, Romas - as usual. Keeping fingers cros...   Jan 20, 2007 - 6:57 PM
- - doGGy   Back to buissnes - its sunday (ussualy i start my ...   Jan 21, 2007 - 2:34 PM
- - j0e_p3t   awesome work romas. can't wait to see the fina...   Jan 21, 2007 - 4:18 PM
- - Kadett   Nice work Romas. Isn't it possible to mount t...   Jan 21, 2007 - 4:21 PM
- - doGGy   update... Was working like crazy to days in a row ...   Jan 23, 2007 - 2:54 PM
|- - malpaso   QUOTE(doGGy @ Jan 23, 2007 - 8:54 PM...   Jan 23, 2007 - 3:20 PM
- - playr158   nice doggy, but no clamps on the vaccum hose for w...   Jan 23, 2007 - 2:58 PM
|- - doGGy   QUOTE(playr158 @ Jan 23, 2007 - 12:5...   Jan 23, 2007 - 3:07 PM
- - celica47   You should try to get a kit together and sell them...   Jan 23, 2007 - 3:17 PM
|- - doGGy   QUOTE(celica47 @ Jan 23, 2007 - 1:17...   Jan 23, 2007 - 3:19 PM
- - j0e_p3t   ^^ someone seems excited. everything looks awesome...   Jan 23, 2007 - 6:15 PM
|- - malpaso   QUOTE(j0e_p3t @ Jan 24, 2007 - 12:15...   Jan 24, 2007 - 1:42 AM
- - Hanyo   QUOTE(doGGy @ Jan 23, 2007 - 11:54 A...   Jan 24, 2007 - 2:32 AM
- - WH95TE   I like this thread   Jan 25, 2007 - 11:10 AM
- - devilsden97   verynice, but arnt u going to melt those plastic/r...   Jan 25, 2007 - 11:24 AM
|- - doGGy   QUOTE(devilsden97 @ Jan 25, 2007 - 9...   Jan 25, 2007 - 12:49 PM
- - Silver94CelicaOwner   boooooost.   Jan 25, 2007 - 11:33 AM
|- - hurley97   QUOTE(Silver94CelicaOwner @ Jan 25, 2007 ...   Jan 25, 2007 - 12:11 PM
- - j0e_p3t   ^ me want them now.   Jan 25, 2007 - 1:39 PM
- - 95celicastLSR   hey great job im in the process of buying all the ...   Jan 26, 2007 - 1:52 AM
- - doGGy   Not much good news... Im tired like shiz and im ou...   Jan 26, 2007 - 3:05 PM
- - sinner96ST   what does 256nm convert to in terms of ft lb of to...   Jan 26, 2007 - 3:13 PM
|- - malpaso   QUOTE(sinner96ST @ Jan 26, 2007 - 9...   Jan 26, 2007 - 4:42 PM
- - trd94   WOW!!! that sounds pretty good for hp ...   Jan 26, 2007 - 11:47 PM
- - doGGy   Ok, im fresh out of bed And ready to write... yas...   Jan 27, 2007 - 4:23 AM
- - presure2   romas, you should be able to plug a toyota 2 bar m...   Jan 27, 2007 - 8:43 AM
|- - doGGy   QUOTE(presure2 @ Jan 27, 2007 - 6:43...   Jan 28, 2007 - 4:15 AM
- - trd94   take your time man , i dont need the wiring to soo...   Jan 27, 2007 - 9:13 AM
- - presure2   romas, read the BGB's..the 2 bar and 1 bar map...   Jan 28, 2007 - 8:43 AM
|- - doGGy   QUOTE(presure2 @ Jan 28, 2007 - 6:43...   Jan 28, 2007 - 1:04 PM
- - doGGy   Ooook so the update is what New clutch along with ...   Jan 30, 2007 - 3:06 AM
|- - malpaso   geeee... it will be really tight. Hope nothing wil...   Jan 30, 2007 - 3:19 AM
- - TomPoz   Take it easy Martin - Romas will sort everything o...   Jan 30, 2007 - 3:34 AM
|- - malpaso   QUOTE(TomPoz @ Jan 30, 2007 - 9:34 A...   Jan 30, 2007 - 3:50 AM
- - TomPoz   Romas, how was it on the dyno? Everything OK?   Jan 30, 2007 - 6:13 PM
|- - doGGy   QUOTE(TomPoz @ Jan 30, 2007 - 4:13 P...   Jan 31, 2007 - 1:10 AM
|- - TomPoz   QUOTE(doGGy @ Jan 31, 2007 - 1:10 AM...   Jan 31, 2007 - 4:31 AM
- - doGGy   I let the numbers speak for me High Boost mode (...   Jan 31, 2007 - 1:44 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(doGGy @ Jan 31, 2007 - 1:44 PM...   Jan 31, 2007 - 6:37 PM
- - lagos   doggy... cant you just tune one map for 75-100% t...   Jan 31, 2007 - 1:53 PM
|- - doGGy   QUOTE(lagos @ Jan 31, 2007 - 11:53 A...   Jan 31, 2007 - 2:05 PM
|- - Alan   QUOTE(doGGy @ Jan 31, 2007 - 2:05 PM...   Jan 31, 2007 - 2:13 PM
|- - doGGy   QUOTE(Alan @ Jan 31, 2007 - 12:13 PM...   Jan 31, 2007 - 2:20 PM
- - Alan   Good, quite Hot! as it is slightly rich   Jan 31, 2007 - 2:21 PM
- - lagos   ive never used the emanage, so these are more like...   Jan 31, 2007 - 2:35 PM
- - trd94   so does the 2 bar map help or does it not really m...   Jan 31, 2007 - 3:26 PM
- - TomPoz   Well done, Romas. Numbers are impressive. Can...   Jan 31, 2007 - 3:45 PM
- - doGGy   Oook Here are the final pics of the enine bay and ...   Feb 2, 2007 - 12:40 AM
- - Batman722   Looks great Romas, my hat is off to you. you know...   Feb 2, 2007 - 12:54 AM
|- - doGGy   QUOTE(Batman722 @ Feb 1, 2007 - 10:5...   Feb 2, 2007 - 1:23 AM
- - j0e_p3t   that is teh sex. major kudos to you mr romas. hand...   Feb 2, 2007 - 1:08 AM
- - ExSane   Nice Romas! Good work. I'm surprised that ...   Feb 2, 2007 - 2:53 AM
|- - OOBE   QUOTE(ExSane @ Feb 2, 2007 - 1:53 AM...   Feb 2, 2007 - 10:06 AM
|- - trd94   QUOTE(OOBE @ Feb 2, 2007 - 10:06 AM)...   Feb 2, 2007 - 9:30 PM
- - TomPoz   The beauty and the beast. Respect Romas, as usua...   Feb 2, 2007 - 3:57 AM
|- - doGGy   QUOTE(TomPoz @ Feb 2, 2007 - 1:57 AM...   Feb 2, 2007 - 4:34 AM
|- - TomPoz   QUOTE(doGGy @ Feb 2, 2007 - 4:34 AM)...   Feb 2, 2007 - 3:39 PM
- - phonex98   sorry if im OT a bit here, but is 220 the best pos...   Feb 2, 2007 - 10:17 AM
- - lagos   does the 7afe have a knock sensor?   Feb 2, 2007 - 10:12 PM
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