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post Sep 18, 2009 - 3:09 AM
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I have tried to search some information about any possible suspension upgrade for ST205. I have found some interesting info but still missing some things... can anyone answer following questions about endlinks?

Front: anyone knows good uprgade for this? I have not found anything yet! BTW what is length of OEM ones?
Rear:
found some recommendations on Racing Beat. But just for rear... And again what is the length of OEM ones?

Thank you!

note: if anyone is confused why asking about length and not measuring it my self answer is simple -> my car is 700miles away now smile.gif


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post Sep 18, 2009 - 10:48 AM
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Well as far as endlinks go, look what i just happened to stumble across...
http://gt4oc.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=99713

Also, if it was upgrades in general you are looking for, there seem to be raves about a whitline rear sway bar (adjustable or not). Then there is this good read in general about Toyota Sprint Series setups. Found to be useful myself in my plans to upgrade my suspension.

http://www.toyota-sprint-series.com/forums...mp;p=6529#p6529

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As i told at the beginnig of the year, the purpose of Jonny entering and developing the car is to try to pass knowledge and experience to other runners, which hopefully will improve their performance.

For round 3, we tried to focus on perfecting the handling - as there is always more time to be gained by handling than chasing hp.

At the last few rounds you will remember the car sitting higher than some. This was to ensure enough shock absorber travel to absorb the bumps - otherwise it will bounce off the bump stops and lose grip and time.

After measuring the car in the workshop and testing on a fast but bumpy road, we could feel the car bouncing, and had some body roll. Also the car was high, meaning a high centre of gravity.

To fix this, we needed to do do a couple of things:
1/ Increase spring rate to reduce roll and travel of suspension
2/ Match damping to the increased spring rate ( reduce bump but keep or increase rebound)
3/ Lower car as much as possible, but keep absorber stroke to absorb bumps.

Based on experience, and with no budget to buy shorter,custom made absorbers, we simply raised the top mountong points of the suspension !
At the front we went from standard top mounts that sit below the body, to raised rose jointed ones that sit above the body.

At the rear we cut the top off the body area of the suspension mount and welded it on 50mm higher, with a band of metal welded all around to bridge the gap.

In all, we could raise the shockabsorber top by 25mm at the front and 50mm at the rear, creating this much extra travel, or allowing us to lower the car this much and keep the original travel.

Spring rate was increased 70 to 80 N/mm at the front, and 50 to 60N/mm at the rear ( to keep the same understeer/oversteer balance, but reduce the roll and stroke)

Roll bars were already the biggest available at 19mm front (C-one) and 20 mm rear (white line).

Ride height was set by measuring from the ground to the base of the sill front and rear. It was set to 145 mm all round, with the car on 225/445 x 16 tyres (which are used to lower the gearing).

Camber was about 1.7 degrees front and 1.5 rear, and rear track was parallel.

When we tested, the rebound needed 2 extra clicks, but the bump was ok, or could be reduced 2 clicks.

Overall result was corner speed increase of approx 15mph in fast corners, with good adjustability of steering input and good body control.

The engine stayed as last time with 1.4 to 1.5 bar boost. (it still hasnt been on the rolling road).

Although there was a little understeer, Jonny could pull out about 3 seconds on Adrian coming onto the straight, lose 1.5 to 2 seconds on the straight, but recover a little on the last corners to finish 1.5 seconds ahead of Adrian.

We hope several of you can benefit from this knowledge


Also of note, there have been many a good post about the TRD topmounts on GT4OC as well. I would have to spend some time digging them up though, as some are pretty old post.


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Posts in this topic
- malpaso   ST205 suspension upgrades   Sep 18, 2009 - 3:09 AM
- - 3WayStunna   EDIT: Sorry wrong post.   Sep 18, 2009 - 6:14 AM
- - pipes   QUOTE (malpaso @ Sep 18, 2009 - 4:09...   Sep 18, 2009 - 9:35 AM
- - Nial   QUOTE (malpaso @ Sep 18, 2009 - 4:09...   Sep 18, 2009 - 9:57 AM
|- - 3WayStunna   QUOTE (Nial @ Sep 18, 2009 - 10:57 A...   Sep 18, 2009 - 11:03 AM
- - 3WayStunna   Well as far as endlinks go, look what i just happe...   Sep 18, 2009 - 10:48 AM
- - azian_advanced   Here are some of your options for aftermarket Supe...   Sep 18, 2009 - 1:07 PM
- - 3WayStunna   NICE   Sep 18, 2009 - 7:19 PM
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