Toyotas bungle..., and they keep piling on?! Options

[easternpiro1]

I may be wrong but i havent seen any threads about toyota's collosal $h!t storm thats raining on their heads right now.... does anybody have the inside track as to whats going on? i know what the news says, but theyre often full of it...

I personally thing that the US is going at toyota EXTREMELY hard for their first major flaw in AGES... could this be to weaken toyota while bolstering ford and GM?! SURE SEEMS LIKE IT!


hyprocrites... after all the damn recalls that american cars have REPEATEDLY?!?! pisses me off!

also... i got a letter from toyota about my gas pedal lmao! ITS A CELICA!!

[hurley97]

There is a lot that the news does not tell people and lot that Toyota has said that does not get aired due to governmental control.

-99% of the cases of stuck accelerators are actually driver error
-If someone uses a factory floor mat hooked into the factory clips provided the mat will never slide forward and get stuck under the pedal. Never.
-There have been less than 20 cases of legitimate stuck accelerator pedals (made by CTS) out of 4.2 million cars equipped with the affected pedals, all cases in cars with well over 100k miles.
-If the accelerator pedal does in fact get stuck the car will not rev more than 2500-3000 rpm and can easily be overcome by the brake system.
-Car and driver has an article about a test bring the Camry up to 70mph, and hitting the brakes with the accelerator still pinned to the floor and the vehicle still came to a stop in 190ft which is only 16ft longer than the same test without the accelerator depressed. The Ford Taurus braking distance from 70mph to a stop without the accelerator depressed while braking was 191ft.

These are just a few things Toyota is telling their dealerships. Whether they are feeding us crap to make us feel better, I don't know, but I believe it.

[SwissFerdi]

-Car and driver has an article about a test bring the Camry up to 70mph, and hitting the brakes with the accelerator still pinned to the floor and the vehicle still came to a stop in 190ft which is only 16ft longer than the same test without the accelerator depressed. The Ford Taurus braking distance from 70mph to a stop without the accelerator depressed while braking was 191ft.

To add to this (I have the article right here), they also performed 100-0 MPH tests, braking with the throttle fully open. The Camry did it in 435 feet, the G37 convertible in 326, and the Roush Stage 3 Mustang in 903 feet. Although 100-0 is less relevant than 70-0, you don't see that kind of stuff getting on the news either.

This post has been edited by SwissFerdi: Feb 28, 2010 - 12:39 PM

[Hanyo]

To add to this (I have the article right here), they also performed 100-0 MPH tests, braking with the throttle fully open. The Camry did it in 435 feet, the G37 convertible in 326, and the Roush Stage 3 Mustang in 903 feet. Although 100-0 is less relevant than 70-0, you don't see that kind of stuff getting on the news either.

well there is a reason behind the 903 feet, its because the roush mustang has a ton of horse power, not because the brakes are bad.

to be honest, i am excited about this toyota fiasco. This mean i can get a used toyota cheap from people who are scared of there toyotas.

[dabazied]

To add to this (I have the article right here), they also performed 100-0 MPH tests, braking with the throttle fully open. The Camry did it in 435 feet, the G37 convertible in 326, and the Roush Stage 3 Mustang in 903 feet. Although 100-0 is less relevant than 70-0, you don't see that kind of stuff getting on the news either.

well there is a reason behind the 903 feet, its because the roush mustang has a ton of horse power, not because the brakes are bad.

to be honest, i am excited about this toyota fiasco. This mean i can get a used toyota cheap from people who are scared of there toyotas.

I don't understand what hp has to do with braking tests, like going from 100-0 with a 85 hp car and a 850 hp car shouldn't make a difference except with weight and the brakes, correct?

[Hanyo]

To add to this (I have the article right here), they also performed 100-0 MPH tests, braking with the throttle fully open. The Camry did it in 435 feet, the G37 convertible in 326, and the Roush Stage 3 Mustang in 903 feet. Although 100-0 is less relevant than 70-0, you don't see that kind of stuff getting on the news either.

well there is a reason behind the 903 feet, its because the roush mustang has a ton of horse power, not because the brakes are bad.

to be honest, i am excited about this toyota fiasco. This mean i can get a used toyota cheap from people who are scared of there toyotas.

I don't understand what hp has to do with braking tests, like going from 100-0 with a 85 hp car and a 850 hp car shouldn't make a difference except with weight and the brakes, correct?

they are testing how well a car can stop with the throttle pinned to the ground. It would be kinda retarded for a high horsepower mustang to have 903 stopping distance wouldn't it?

This post has been edited by Hanyo: Mar 1, 2010 - 1:59 AM