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post Jan 12, 2010 - 9:17 PM
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I was wondering what the purpose of the final drive gear ratio?

also what is this? http://auctions.nengun.com/item/k113042803


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post May 7, 2012 - 11:24 PM
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someone help me put this to rest... so does the c series transmission final drive transfer over to our s54 transmission. According to these calculations they do :



following videos for proof :





also just the origin of me discussing this topic : http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showto...78064&st=80

This is quoted by a 6gc member via email :


Very interesting I have learned something new about the ring and pinion compatability between the S and C series transmission. However dont get so cocky yet lol... read on and you'll see that there is nothing in that thread which shows why that trans seems to be geared lower/shorter then a stock 6th gen GT. If anything it would be geared longer... which is what u where saying right?

If not then then yes it is possible ur car is geared higher/longer then a stock gt but i doubt its that of the custom work and probably because that trans is NOT an S54 but an S51... if it is an S54 then its the 71/18 = 3.94444 version. But this would lead to better performance since it would take advantage of your higher redline as well as the increase in power and torque. It might also lead to better fuel economy.

"The 4.176 S54 has 17 teeth on the output shaft driven gear and 71 teeth on the ring gear."
These are the s54's that are in the gt 6th gens.

"The Corolla's C59 uses a 67 tooth ring gear with a 17 tooth drive gear for 3.941. This is the perfect match for the S54's 17 tooth drive gear."

"So this gives the S54 with 17 teeth these possible differential gear ratios: 3.941, 4.058, and 4.176"

smaller the number the higher the gear.

so if you had the c59 ring gear then your car would be geared higher.

"It might be possible to use the 19 tooth output shaft from the C150 in the S series transmission, but that compatibility has not been proven. You'd also have to press the gears off each output shaft, which can be time consuming or expensive. These are only possibilities, not actualities. Gear lash between the output shaft pinion gear and the ring gear will be affected if you change one without changing the other. The gear lash may be too great for your particular application, like if you switched to a 67 tooth ring gear when the pinion gear was designed for a 71 tooth, and such. Compatibility has not been proven with such ring gears in the S transmissions as gear lash must be considered and measured."

I find it unlikely, but not impossible someone would have gone through this trouble. If they did however it would still lead to a higher final drive as "C150 3.545 1.904 1.310 0.969 0.815 Diff: 3.526" Still higher then stock.

In fact looking at the numbers on that thread the s54 in the 6th gens has the lowest final drive of all of the options.

.... and then i saw ur post all the way down at the bottom.

"lets not forget the C160 and C60 final drive gear ratio. I have a 4.529 final drive gear ratio currently in my S54 Helical LSD transmission. Greater acceleration!! "

So your saying someone pressed the gears of of each output shaft and swapped out the output shaft and ring gear from a C160 or C60 trans into that transmission I sold you... Perhaps but ill believe it when i see pictures of the ring and pinion gear.

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Jul 9, 2012 - 1:03 AM


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- BonzaiCelica   Gear Ratios   Jan 12, 2010 - 9:17 PM
- - Edophus   QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Jan 13, 2010 - 2...   Jan 13, 2010 - 5:38 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   thanks edophus. So do you think the gearing for th...   Jan 13, 2010 - 11:17 AM
|- - Edophus   QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Jan 13, 2010 - 4...   Jan 13, 2010 - 11:34 AM
- - Mstoochn   the S54 also cruises on the HWY at 3500RPM the RS...   Jan 13, 2010 - 7:50 PM
|- - Edophus   QUOTE (Mstoochn @ Jan 14, 2010 - 12...   Jan 14, 2010 - 5:21 AM
- - pittfirefighter   camry e153 ftw   Jan 13, 2010 - 9:27 PM
- - Mstoochn   best idealistic trans i can think of for an NA 3s/...   Jan 14, 2010 - 5:46 AM
|- - Edophus   QUOTE (Mstoochn @ Jan 14, 2010 - 10...   Jan 14, 2010 - 6:29 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   i just looked up this gear ratio calculator. can a...   Mar 4, 2010 - 7:22 AM
|- - azian_advanced   QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Mar 4, 2010 - 6...   Mar 7, 2010 - 9:47 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   anybody ^   Mar 7, 2010 - 5:54 PM
- - Rusty   Im a bit baffled about the e56 being able go have ...   Mar 7, 2010 - 11:59 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   useless and incorrect information....   Sep 6, 2011 - 2:17 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   I got the information from this link : http://www....   Sep 6, 2011 - 8:39 PM
|- - sir_smeghed   Does anyone know if the ring and pinion from the 4...   May 6, 2017 - 9:00 AM
|- - sir_smeghed   PLEASE! Someone..... I have an SW20 with an ...   Jun 9, 2017 - 5:30 AM
|- - slavie   QUOTE (sir_smeghed @ Jun 9, 2017 - 5...   Jun 9, 2017 - 9:49 AM
|- - sir_smeghed   That helps a lot, thanks. Since I left my last po...   Jun 9, 2017 - 10:58 PM
- - azian_advanced   i think you have the general idea.. but just remem...   Sep 6, 2011 - 11:46 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   no I am very well aware of the shorter gears that ...   Sep 7, 2011 - 12:43 AM
|- - Ted95   QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Sep 7, 2011 - 1...   Apr 30, 2012 - 10:49 AM
|- - mkernz22   QUOTE (Ted95 @ Apr 30, 2012 - 11:49 ...   Apr 30, 2012 - 11:15 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   someone help me put this to rest... so does the c ...   May 7, 2012 - 11:24 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   ok ok this is the one. BUMP   May 13, 2012 - 1:06 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   Which one of these pieces is the pinion? I know th...   Jul 3, 2012 - 4:31 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   bump!!   Jul 5, 2012 - 3:58 PM
- - rdyzz   sorry to review a dead thread, just try to get mor...   Jan 15, 2013 - 8:41 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   OEM s54 ring count is 71 teeth and pinion is 17 te...   Jan 15, 2013 - 9:32 PM
- - rdyzz   the output shaft gears look smaller than the s54...   Jan 16, 2013 - 4:35 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   Output shaft part numbers : S54 transmission : 3...   Mar 20, 2014 - 9:52 PM
- - mi645   im running e56 i like the trans but the gears r a ...   Mar 21, 2014 - 2:54 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   Final Drive Ring Gear specs : S55F transmission :...   Mar 22, 2014 - 3:04 AM
- - mkernz22   https://partsouq.com/en/catalog/toyota/part......   Mar 26, 2014 - 9:46 PM
- - mkernz22   ooooo, more info. http://www.newcelica.org/forum...   Mar 26, 2014 - 10:08 PM
|- - BonzaiCelica   QUOTE (mkernz22 @ Mar 26, 2014 - 10...   Mar 26, 2014 - 11:06 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   blah, useless info   Mar 10, 2017 - 6:33 PM
- - slavie   So were you ever able to rule out if C56 pinion wo...   Mar 24, 2017 - 10:13 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   it wouldn't work look at the part numbers....   Mar 27, 2017 - 1:03 PM


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