 how to swap a 2grfe V6 into a st204, Toyota reliability, with less moving parts than a turbo |
 Aug 12, 2014 - 4:24 AM
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 Enthusiast  Joined Mar 15, '07 From Tennessee Currently Offline Reputation: 52 (100%)  |
Will start an official thread, into this. wont go into detail. Will keep it mostly informative, because i know this will not be a favorite swap for most, and will be cost prohibitive for many.
Approximate cost of swap is around 7 to 8K, and will vary according of how far you want to go. mods and stuff not going to get into detail about, a shopping list, or what not. there are multiple places you can get it, and it has been discussed before. DSCN1196  the engine fits, and it barely makes it. will not fully disclose all that is being done, but will mos likely help anyone that wants to do this personally. fitting the engine and mating the engine, can be found in the MR2OC forums, and i will not take credit for it. Please lets not fill this thread with garbage. Its a 2grfe, because i wanted it, and if you dont like it, oh well, you are not paying for it, lol.... first things first, the engine needs to come from the bottom, it wont come from the top... it wont... DSCN1202  DSCN1188  there are some body modifications, and will get into details later in the swap... I have my reasons. the swap is doable. and like I said, im willing to help personally to any member, that will do it. Will be a slow guide, because i decided to do it all myself, with no help. I feel like this is more personal.... Will include more stuff in the days to come... DSCN1122  just consider the 2grfe, its worth it. all aluminum... This post has been edited by njccmd2002: Sep 22, 2017 - 7:15 PM -------------------- Learned a lot in 10 years... I hardly log in anymore, last login Today Sept 6 2019, and I was forced just to clarify a post. LOL
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Nov 13, 2014 - 10:52 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 11, '06 From Way South Chicago Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
braze over the welds to fix the leaks, it's like solder for steel.
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Nov 13, 2014 - 11:23 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 15, '07 From Tennessee Currently Offline Reputation: 52 (100%) |
QUOTE (Bitter @ Nov 13, 2014 - 9:52 PM)  braze over the welds to fix the leaks, it's like solder for steel. regular braze? silver solder for copper? i dont have oxy, i have a mapp, and dont know if i can braze metals... -------------------- Learned a lot in 10 years... I hardly log in anymore, last login Today Sept 6 2019, and I was forced just to clarify a post. LOL
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Nov 14, 2014 - 2:23 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 11, '06 From Way South Chicago Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Mapp can get hot enough to braze, especially if it's light metal and you have one of those whistling turbo torches. Those things get HOT.
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Nov 22, 2014 - 8:13 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 15, '07 From Tennessee Currently Offline Reputation: 52 (100%) |
ok getting ready for surgery. Someone here sent me this box in
DSCN1474  and stumbled in this one DSCN1475  three years of dust collecting.... DSCN1477  ready to dissect.. assemble and join..... DSCN1476  91ACA90D  69820549  took me 6 hours to get that pin out done.... and confirmed.... This post has been edited by njccmd2002: Sep 21, 2017 - 2:20 AM -------------------- Learned a lot in 10 years... I hardly log in anymore, last login Today Sept 6 2019, and I was forced just to clarify a post. LOL
If you PM me and I dont respond, dont fret or cry. Im alive, better post your questions in the thread below, maybe I log back in 2grfe Swapped... Why I chose the 2GR, before you ask read here... A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within. @llamaraxing in Instagram is the best way to find me. I hardly log here anymore. |
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Nov 22, 2014 - 9:14 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 8, '03 From Lancaster CA Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
hopefully its as easy as de-pin the one harness and just pin the new connectors.
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1997 Supra TT 6speed 1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap 1990 Celica All-Trac |
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Nov 23, 2014 - 8:48 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Mar 8, '04 From Newport, RI Currently Offline Reputation: 63 (99%) |
Looks like fun.
Blast from the past there 
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Nov 23, 2014 - 9:10 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 15, '07 From Tennessee Currently Offline Reputation: 52 (100%) |
QUOTE (Smaay @ Nov 22, 2014 - 8:14 PM) hopefully its as easy as de-pin the one harness and just pin the new connectors. no, unfortunately, not... you see, the highlander being a 5 plug, has some signals going to juction boxes, and going to a specific signal in the ecu. In the rav 4 each individual signal goes to a specific point in the ECU. Maybe like 2 or 3 systems are like this. If i recall the heated 02 sensors, and the ignition coils, lol..... So i really have to open up all the harness..... QUOTE (Batman722 @ Nov 23, 2014 - 7:48 AM) Looks like fun. Blast from the past there it sure has given me a lot of headaches. But if you take the time and accept it for what it is, no more than a road map and yes those boxes are a blast from the past. -------------------- Learned a lot in 10 years... I hardly log in anymore, last login Today Sept 6 2019, and I was forced just to clarify a post. LOL
If you PM me and I dont respond, dont fret or cry. Im alive, better post your questions in the thread below, maybe I log back in 2grfe Swapped... Why I chose the 2GR, before you ask read here... A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within. @llamaraxing in Instagram is the best way to find me. I hardly log here anymore. |
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Nov 26, 2014 - 10:50 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 15, '07 From Tennessee Currently Offline Reputation: 52 (100%) |
peak preview of my wiring diagram, need to fix it, couple of connections and explanations. It prints in a 4x3 sheets of paper . (total of 12 now)
2grfecopy 
This post has been edited by njccmd2002: Sep 21, 2017 - 1:44 AM -------------------- Learned a lot in 10 years... I hardly log in anymore, last login Today Sept 6 2019, and I was forced just to clarify a post. LOL
If you PM me and I dont respond, dont fret or cry. Im alive, better post your questions in the thread below, maybe I log back in 2grfe Swapped... Why I chose the 2GR, before you ask read here... A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within. @llamaraxing in Instagram is the best way to find me. I hardly log here anymore. |
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Nov 26, 2014 - 10:58 PM
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I can't say I envy you. Mr220v's prices seem more than fair to me since I don't even wanna look at the diagrams.
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Nov 27, 2014 - 12:07 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 15, '07 From Tennessee Currently Offline Reputation: 52 (100%) |
QUOTE (richee3 @ Nov 26, 2014 - 9:58 PM) I can't say I envy you. Mr220v's prices seem more than fair to me since I don't even wanna look at the diagrams. And yes, however this is not a simple thing. Because, at best the engine needs at least 2 extra relays, that i need to find a place for them. And i need to understand the way the wiring would be, in case I need to troubleshoot. Hence my wiring diagram Plus and I tried to contact mr220v, never got a response, dont blame him, hes very busy. So i figured i wanted to learn. Im still making changes to the diagram.... -------------------- Learned a lot in 10 years... I hardly log in anymore, last login Today Sept 6 2019, and I was forced just to clarify a post. LOL
If you PM me and I dont respond, dont fret or cry. Im alive, better post your questions in the thread below, maybe I log back in 2grfe Swapped... Why I chose the 2GR, before you ask read here... A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within. @llamaraxing in Instagram is the best way to find me. I hardly log here anymore. |
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Nov 27, 2014 - 10:49 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 11, '06 From Way South Chicago Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
There's some awesome weather proof relays on eBay with weather tight pigtail connectors that you can put literally anywhere without a special box.
Just search water proof relay on ebay or amazon and you'll find plenty. -------------------- |
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Nov 27, 2014 - 11:14 PM
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Enthusiast Joined May 23, '12 From northridge,CA Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
this was fun =D lol
good job! |
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Nov 28, 2014 - 2:05 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 15, '07 From Tennessee Currently Offline Reputation: 52 (100%) |
Worst part about wiring a car, is that you need to get the harnes for the ecu your going to use, lol changing from highlander to rav is not fun.....
-------------------- Learned a lot in 10 years... I hardly log in anymore, last login Today Sept 6 2019, and I was forced just to clarify a post. LOL
If you PM me and I dont respond, dont fret or cry. Im alive, better post your questions in the thread below, maybe I log back in 2grfe Swapped... Why I chose the 2GR, before you ask read here... A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within. @llamaraxing in Instagram is the best way to find me. I hardly log here anymore. |
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Nov 28, 2014 - 3:14 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 11, '06 From Way South Chicago Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
You should have just gotten a whole half cut of a Camry or something man...
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Nov 28, 2014 - 4:30 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 15, '07 From Tennessee Currently Offline Reputation: 52 (100%) |
QUOTE (Bitter @ Nov 28, 2014 - 2:14 PM) You should have just gotten a whole half cut of a Camry or something man... tought about it, it was 6000 on copart.com. I dont have a dealer license, and its a waste of money. i spent 2600 on a complete engine plus accessories plus 500 in incidentals. 3100 vs 6000 a lot of difference. plus i dont have time to part out a camry, and a yard will not pay 2900 for it, without the engine. Its a tough decision.... -------------------- Learned a lot in 10 years... I hardly log in anymore, last login Today Sept 6 2019, and I was forced just to clarify a post. LOL
If you PM me and I dont respond, dont fret or cry. Im alive, better post your questions in the thread below, maybe I log back in 2grfe Swapped... Why I chose the 2GR, before you ask read here... A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within. @llamaraxing in Instagram is the best way to find me. I hardly log here anymore. |
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Nov 29, 2014 - 3:14 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 15, '07 From Tennessee Currently Offline Reputation: 52 (100%) |
ok so i have mapped every wire in the harness, it really has been pain in the rear really.... as its been 2 full days. comparing the highlander and rav4 diagrams
DSCN1485  and the engine is like all gutted, lol.... DSCN1488  talk about the weight savings!! all the auto unnecessary crap... DSCN1487  now on to adding the celica bits, and theRav ecu connectors. This post has been edited by njccmd2002: Sep 21, 2017 - 3:04 AM -------------------- Learned a lot in 10 years... I hardly log in anymore, last login Today Sept 6 2019, and I was forced just to clarify a post. LOL
If you PM me and I dont respond, dont fret or cry. Im alive, better post your questions in the thread below, maybe I log back in 2grfe Swapped... Why I chose the 2GR, before you ask read here... A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within. @llamaraxing in Instagram is the best way to find me. I hardly log here anymore. |
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Nov 29, 2014 - 3:53 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 11, '06 From Way South Chicago Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Wow, I didn't realize a half cut 2GR Camry was still that much.
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Nov 29, 2014 - 6:01 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 15, '07 From Tennessee Currently Offline Reputation: 52 (100%) |
QUOTE (Bitter @ Nov 29, 2014 - 2:53 PM) Wow, I didn't realize a half cut 2GR Camry was still that much. remember th v6 have the fancy electronics, most of the time. and all those add penny, i followed like 50 or 70 auctions at copart. got bored, and decided to just buy what i needed. -------------------- Learned a lot in 10 years... I hardly log in anymore, last login Today Sept 6 2019, and I was forced just to clarify a post. LOL
If you PM me and I dont respond, dont fret or cry. Im alive, better post your questions in the thread below, maybe I log back in 2grfe Swapped... Why I chose the 2GR, before you ask read here... A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within. @llamaraxing in Instagram is the best way to find me. I hardly log here anymore. |
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Nov 30, 2014 - 2:19 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 15, '07 From Tennessee Currently Offline Reputation: 52 (100%) |
ok, im ready to start the real wiring process..
If you know how to read a map, you know how to read wiring diagram. Its easy, the books are self explanatory. I was afraid all the time, because i never tought I could. Sure you can pay 500 to have someone do it. The 3sgte harness is a cookie compared to this monster there are 126+ wires going to the ECU. LOL But then when it comes troubleshooting time, if you dont know how it was made, then you are screwed. There is no halfassing it, i know where every solder goes, Im planning on adding a new fuse box, to accomodate new relays. Minor changes to the body wiring of the celica, but i would not be able to accomodate for all that if i have someone else do it... Plus i have trust issues.... Microsoft Paint is a Reals sport to play with wiring diagrams..... -------------------- Learned a lot in 10 years... I hardly log in anymore, last login Today Sept 6 2019, and I was forced just to clarify a post. LOL
If you PM me and I dont respond, dont fret or cry. Im alive, better post your questions in the thread below, maybe I log back in 2grfe Swapped... Why I chose the 2GR, before you ask read here... A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within. @llamaraxing in Instagram is the best way to find me. I hardly log here anymore. |
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Nov 30, 2014 - 4:12 PM
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 Moderator Joined Oct 1, '02 From fall river, ma Currently Offline Reputation: 13 (100%) |
amazing amount of time and effort in a good wiring job, berto, and your killlllin it!!
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