New owner of Megan Coilovers Options

[jimmykay]

he might be asking if the damping of a megan set on the maximum damping level is less than, equal to, or greater than a tein, ksport, etc on the maximum damping level.

It is a very valid question. just having more tick marks doesnt mean it has a greater damping range.
For example, one model of coilover provides a damping range from 1,000 to 10,000 lb*s/in (I think thats the unit for damping) with 10 increments of 1,000
another model of coilover may provide a range of 500 to 13,000 lb*s/in with 5 increments of 2,500 each.

The first coilover would provide more adjustment, but the second would provide a wider range.

I wonder what the damping ranges are for each manufacturer?

Edit: changed 'coilover' to 'model of coilover' to clarify that I am talking about comparing two different brands of coilover

This post has been edited by jimmykay: Oct 13, 2009 - 5:02 PM

[trdproven]

Your right about damper settings between different brands, types, but like i said between the two, even tein at full stiffness is still too soft for me, i thought my friend adjusted it to the softest but he had it had the hardest setting. but that is not just it, by having 32 way adjustability, major advantage is the ability to fine tune. Do I make any sense?

I think what he is saying is that he has heard that the valving on the shocks are all different, so in order for people to get the same dampening effect on each corner they had to adjust the dampner settings. He is also saying that he heard not all dampners are created equal. The stiffness of one unit at level 6 could be equal to level 16 on another, and so on.

I will tell you that no manufacturer would let something like that slip through QA. Unless another variable had been altered (spring travel) you can be sure that a level 14 dampner setting on one strut is a level 14 on all of them.

I agree with your last paragraph, that was what I meant about consistency.

This post has been edited by trdproven: Oct 13, 2009 - 4:58 PM

[Harold_Fastwaker]

I think what he is saying is that he has heard that the valving on the shocks are all different, so in order for people to get the same dampening effect on each corner they had to adjust the dampner settings. He is also saying that he heard not all dampners are created equal. The stiffness of one unit at level 6 could be equal to level 16 on another, and so on.

I will tell you that no manufacturer would let something like that slip through QA. Unless another variable had been altered (spring travel) you can be sure that a level 14 dampner setting on one strut is a level 14 on all of them.

Well, I can tell you this. I remember some shop doing a test on megan,d2, ksport and a few other companies to test how they rate up to Tein and higher priced items. The M/K-S/D2 had bad consistancy, such as spring rates not being the same all the way around and valving not being equal for stiffness settings.

But this is what happens when you use a cheap shop to make your parts.

Now, since then D2 has come back and actually started testing their products to verify they are atleast acceptable.

[trdproven]

honestly not all things are created equal in this world, close but not exact. QA can only do so much there are many variables that keep consistency. What if they took a well built teins and coincidently took poorly builts (defects or not so well built to the standards) of the rest of the brands and tested it. The way to reduce variance and provide true statistics and sampling is to test perhaps with 100 teins, 100 megans, 100 d2, and so forth. Motors are not created equal some motors are built better overal, materials and assembly, in fact everything we get for our cars some have theirs last longer than others. Its all variables, the specifics you are looking for is not necessary unless you have one bad ass track car. but even at that money is the least of your worries if it is a true track car. Anyway what are trying to get out of these posts? We sound like WE need to be the QA inspectors for these coil overs or marketing directors.

This post has been edited by trdproven: Oct 15, 2009 - 1:42 AM

[Harold_Fastwaker]

honestly not all things are created equal in this world, close but not exact. QA can only do so much there are many variables that keep consistency. What if they took a well built teins and coincidently took poorly builts (defects or not so well built to the standards) of the rest of the brands and tested it. The way to reduce variance and provide true statistics and sampling is to test perhaps with 100 teins, 100 megans, 100 d2, and so forth. Motors are not created equal some motors are built better overal, materials and assembly, in fact everything we get for our cars some have theirs last longer than others. Its all variables, the specifics you are looking for is not necessary unless you have one bad ass track car. but even at that money is the least of your worries if it is a true track car. Anyway what are trying to get out of these posts? We sound like WE need to be the QA inspectors for these coil overs or marketing directors.

I honestly do not expect a company to buy 100 of each for tests. Sure that is the best way, then take the average from them.


However, if you buy an off the shelf set of each and test them. You should NOT have a set of D2s with 4 completely different spring rates. Or a set of Megans with valve settings that do not match up when set to a curtain number. Like I said, these tests are what caused D2 to start testing their products after they were made to verify they did not send out crazy setups with numbers nowhere close to what their spec says it should be.

I can honestly say as well that I have not seen a set of Teins or other high quality coilover snap from daily driving. I have seen photos of a Megan coilover that broke cleanly in half on a DD'd civic. In the car game, you pretty much get what you pay for. If something averages $1300 for a certain part, buying one for $800 will save you money in the short run but will not be an equal quality part.


With that stated. I am going to run a set of Megans. I could careless about track worthiness or corner balancing my car. They slam the lowest out of all the offerings of coilovers for our car.

This post has been edited by Harold_Fastwaker: Oct 15, 2009 - 7:51 PM

[trdproven]

you wont regret it, had it on since Jan.

[upscaleauto]

Good post and info! Just wanted to share "GB: Megan Racing Coilovers (94-99 Celica) & More!" We are offering a low price with free shipping to top it off! There are some photos in that thread of our install and some additional install info as well!

[trdproven]

where was that free shipping when I needed it, I spent like 100 bucks to ship mine.

[upscaleauto]

where was that free shipping when I needed it, I spent like 100 bucks to ship mine.

It may make you feel better that the offer is only for the lower 48 states, so you didn't really miss out. On the other hand, sorry for the timing being off on this! Seriously, just let us know if there is anything else you are looking for for your Celica and we will see what we can do to help you out price/shipping wise.

[trdproven]

alright, do you have a full catback exhaust made for our GT? i doubt it but its worth a try.

[upscaleauto]

alright, do you have a full catback exhaust made for our GT? i doubt it but its worth a try.

Unfortunately, no. But the good news is that we are working to develop one along with a radiator shroud and engine under tray/panel for the 6GC. We have no further information right now, but as soon as any of these are available we will post here on 6GC.net

[nics]

quick question, so its a partially threaded coilover set correct?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ztmsUiU5Xo

[upscaleauto]

quick question, so its a partially threaded coilover set correct?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ztmsUiU5Xo

The Megan Racing Coilovers are actually fully threaded. You adjust the height at the lower portion and don't lose any travel area.

[nics]

quick question, so its a partially threaded coilover set correct?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ztmsUiU5Xo

The Megan Racing Coilovers are actually fully threaded. You adjust the height at the lower portion and don't lose any travel area.

so height adjustment is not based on the spring compression which forces the damper travel to shorten as well right?

[trdproven]

you never touch spring load on megans, there is a lower thread adjustment just for height. Unlike coil sleeves, when you adjust height, you also change spring load. Good thin about full coilovers is that everything is seperately adjustable.

[nics]

i see. thanks trdproven