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post Aug 13, 2019 - 10:06 PM
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See that's just an unconditional law of the universe, do something to your car where it doesn't need to get wet and it'll rain.


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post Aug 14, 2019 - 7:31 AM
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^ I think you mean do anything to your car AT ALL and it'll rain/snow/sleet/hail/tornado/hurricane/apocalypse.


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post Aug 14, 2019 - 4:15 PM
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No offense to any one here since all of you guys are cool, but I HATE(most) cisgender men. Had one this morning tell me I need to just get over not being able to get pregnant and being able to be a mom... that it's not the end of the world... It made me so upset I ended up with a migraine immediately and it wasn't until BC powder and a Maxalt could be taken, and laying down with an ice pack, that it just now went away. The one thing I want more than anything, that I'd do anything for... no big deal right...

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post Aug 14, 2019 - 9:19 PM
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Eww children. Adopt don't shop...wait that's for animals eh same thing.


Drove the Celica, got gas, got errands, bedded the brakes, felt great, managed to hit ONLY ONE BUG. I did find some streaking under the Rejex out in the sun, meh whatever I'll deal with it some other time.


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post Aug 14, 2019 - 10:49 PM
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Children can be wonderful, it's mostly up to the parents in how they behave. I'm not against adoption or should I end up with a bio woman if she wanted to(since I sure as Hell wouldn't want to deprive her of the opportunity), it'd just be nice to be the one you know... Ha... I was so devastated when I had "the baby origins talk" with mom, and found out I couldn't be a mom like her... I was like four or five at the time...

Anyway... woo driving! If that ONE bug had been a Herculean beetle you'd be saying some other things.

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post Aug 19, 2019 - 9:50 PM
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Sigh... the lack of aftermarket and factory support for the MR2 really bites and makes it harder to convince myself it's a good idea over getting yet another Miata like everyone and their aunt.


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post Aug 20, 2019 - 4:52 AM
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I do dig the AJ swap Miata....


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post Aug 20, 2019 - 7:31 PM
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Same, but I really like the 1MZ and 2GR swapped SW MR2 as well... Logically the Miata is the better option in most ways, the only place I can say the MR2 is better logically is that it's an enclosed roof car and is slightly more practical with the dual trunks and interior storage bin. That aside... the Miata is just better in every way in the other things that matter. Aesthetically I much prefer the SW MR2, but I like the NB2 quite a bit as well. I dunno, maybe after owning another convertible and actually utilizing such at night I'll be more for them. I just like the security and refinement of a structural metal roof.


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post Aug 22, 2019 - 4:05 PM
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So I've been using Gran Turismo Sport as a tool for deciding on cars, since that's the only way I can drive them back to back. With my real world experience in the Miata it gives me a frame of reference since there's a Miata in game, so comparing the other cars in game to the Miata in game should give a decent idea. At least better than pure speculation based on specs and reviews, since I'd imagine Sport has managed to capture how the cars drive in real life for the most part based on the Miata at least. The Miata behaves very much like it does in real life, very toss-able and hugs corners with ease but takes a delicate hand to get the most of its twitchy nature. That said there's nothing you can do to **** up royally in it, and driving like a complete asshat you're never in danger and it takes restraint not to **** up the driving line and lap times in the name of shenanigans for fun.

With that in mind and as a baseline, I don't think I'd like driving the MR2. It takes such a different approach to driving it versus a FR car, especially when pushing it since one small mistake is all that's needed and you're kissing your ass as it spins around just because you didn't get your braking and throttle transitions 100% perfect going through the corner. Oddly enough pulling the weight down to the N/A version of around 2,600 pounds it was perfectly tame in comparison, though in Sport there's no weight balancing setting like in older games so I imagine the weight setting pulls from the heaviest end before pulling it all around. So in that case the N/A version might be fine since I've read where it's more tame in handling dynamics from the reduced weight in the rear over the Turbo model. Then again, not like I'm ever going 10/10 on the street anyway. Maybe 7/10 or 8/10 depending on the car.

I also spent some time with the 350Z since it's a viable contender except for its portly weight. There's something weird about the 350Z, it almost has this FWD like tendency to understeer. That aside after adjusting it drove nicely, very stable in all situations and the complete opposite of the MR2 in that regard. More stable than the Miata too, though nowhere as playful or light on its feet. It's funny you can "feel" the weight in how the cars react and move in the game, as dropping the weight down to just above 3,000 pounds made a huge improvement and is where the car should be and should've been all along. So I think I'd actually like a 350Z with enough weight reduction, which isn't that hard or expensive on early Enthusiast models since they start at 3,190 pounds.

The safe choice is the Miata, I know I like how it handles and its dynamics and that it'll only greatly improve just with wheels and tires much less things like coil-overs and sway bars. If the 350Z were more practical and space efficient(is that huge SHOCK tower brace really necessary?) I'd more willing to overlook the weight to gain a structural metal roof. The 350Z is said to ride well, but I know the NB2 rides well too and will only get better with 15's over the factory 16's. I wish Sport had the MR-S as well, since that'd be the only other car I'd look at since it's easy to 2ZZ swap it.


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post Aug 23, 2019 - 5:42 PM
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Pontiac Solstice, that's a pretty good chick car lol.


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post Aug 23, 2019 - 10:45 PM
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If I'm going for chick car I should just get a 7th gen Celica. tongue.gif If I could afford the GXP variant I'd give them a closer look, otherwise the Miata makes it pointless. That and they have the weirdest freaking bolt pattern of 5x110 which is shared with like nothing else, unless you count the Saturn Sky and Opel GT which is cheating since they're all the same car.


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post Aug 24, 2019 - 1:10 PM
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S2000!?


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post Aug 24, 2019 - 2:05 PM
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If they were in my price range I'd definitely be giving them a look, but last I saw even worn out ones were at least twice what a nice Miata goes for. So you could AJ swap a nice Miata for what it costs to get a decent S2000, even using the expensive Rocketeer swap kit. Could 2ZZ/6-speed swap a nice MR-S as well for even less probably. 95% chance it'll be a Miata, it has the least amount of things about it that irk me and fundamentally it's everything I want in a car aside from the convertible thing. An AJ swapped NB coupe is probably my perfect car, that or the Lotus Exige.


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post Aug 24, 2019 - 3:13 PM
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Kia Elan!


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post Aug 24, 2019 - 4:53 PM
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We did get the Lotus Elan variant, I think. FWD though, and they're not cheap either if I recall correctly. They're great looking cars though, and probably the best FWD car ever made in terms of handling. I've tried to open myself back up to the possibility of a FWD car, as it'd make life easier and offer more options, but ehhh... Even if one were set up to remove as much understeer as possible it just wouldn't be the same, otherwise I'd be all over the 7th gen Celica GT-S like the basic white girl I am since the 2ZZ is probably the best sounding N/A four cylinder ever put into a car.

After driving the NB2 a few times it's probably the best option for me given the budget, and who knows maybe I'll come to like the convertible aspect with enough top down night driving. If not I can always just rip the soft top out and permanently mount a hardtop for weight reduction. laugh.gif

It's just ugh, sitting around not being able to do anything because of SOMEBODY can't help but have my mind wander to other possibilities.


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post Aug 24, 2019 - 5:05 PM
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Come to the next TOTD meet and I'll let you gingerly drive my very slow Celica and it'll somewhat soften your stance on RWD. The car is basically idiot proof.


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post Aug 24, 2019 - 8:37 PM
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There are plenty of great FWD cars, I'm not denying that, and it's a completely valid platform for a sports car. It's just personal preference in how front engine RWD cars drive, that's all. FWD is definitely safer though, and if you're wanting to rip it through back roads it or AWD would be the way to go. I drive like an old lady though and won't go over the speed limit, but I like rotating the car with the throttle for funsies from time to time.


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post Aug 24, 2019 - 8:54 PM
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That and aside from the Elan the only FWD car I can think of that's as light and small as the Miata is the CR-X, and those are old death traps.

I dunno. It's just hard to convince myself when something like the Miata exists and it does everything I need in a car, as useless of a car that it may be.

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post Aug 25, 2019 - 1:39 AM
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In the interest of fairness I tried out the Integra Type-R which is probably the best handling FWD car on Sport, and set the Miata as close to power and weight as possible and was able to get better laps in the Integra. Much more stable and easier to get cleaner driving lines, though in fairness the Integra Type-R is on 16x7 square whereas the Miata is on 14x5.5 square. I just couldn't keep the Miata perfectly in line at all times, whereas with the Integra it was almost effortless. On Willow Springs Horse Thief Mile the Integra was only half a second faster, I'd think with more equal contact patch on the Miata it'd be at least even. I do know the NB2 with 16x6.5 square as well as revised suspension and chassis was a lot more stable than the NA6 I had, rode a lot better too despite the 16's. Still I had more fun with the Miata after I stopped bothering trying to get that last half a second off the lap and just slid through all the corners ala Initial D.


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post Aug 25, 2019 - 9:28 AM
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To be fair, also, I'm 99% certain that the Elan is also a death trap. In fact any tiny car from the late 80's and early 90's is a death trap compared to cars from the last 10 years. You ever see the 1998 Corolla vs 2015 Corolla that ANCAP did?
https://youtu.be/xidhx_f-ouU


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