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> Upgraded Suspension Bushings, front control arm and rear trailing/adjustment arm bushings
post Jan 14, 2010 - 9:28 PM
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A while ago I bought these Polyurethane bushings for the rear suspension and I finally got a chance to install them




You can get them on eBay here
or from Red Rocket Performance, or user RedRkt01 here on 6gc, mr2oc, or celicatech


We had installed the set for the front on Dustin's car a while back, link to thread here, and they made a huge difference. I wanted to do the rears first in my car to see the difference between just the fronts and just the rears. So I did.

They replace the bushings in both rear adjustment arms, trailing arms, and control arms. I brought the car to work and installed them with the help of one of the guys I work with. The job required the use of the press, vice, air hammer, torch, the air gun, and a few hand tools. Not really a job I could have done by myself outside in front of the house, might have been able to do it in Manny's garage but it would not have been easy and would have taken at least all day if not all weekend. It took us about 3-1/2 to 4 hrs to finish the job. And yes, you really need to do an alignment afterward.

I didn't really take good pictures during the process and all I have are crappy pictures of the finished product. Maybe I can get some better ones on my day off.












First Impressions:
I've only put about 150 miles on the car since the installation and most of it has been back and forth to work in traffic. I do have to say, these things are very bad for me. People already tell me I drive like a maniac and I'm usually the only person on the road who speeds up to take a corner, but now I just feel like I can go even faster all the time. I have gotten a little time with some corners and all I can think about is finding more corners and driving even faster around them. I actually got my front wheels to loose grip around a corner while the rear had not problem and just guided the car around. The car feels much more solid overall and, it might seem weird, but I feel like the steering is more precise.
I used to take 30mph curved exit ramps at 75-80mph and be scared, hovering my foot over the brake pedal just in case I needed it. Now, I have complete confidence in my 80mph exit ramp and speed up the whole way through. So far so good biggrin.gif

(I really am not that much of a manic though... not all the time anyway)

This post has been edited by hurley97: May 31, 2011 - 5:25 PM


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post Jan 14, 2010 - 10:28 PM
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When will you be doing the front bushings? I think of all the things that I did on my dads Porsche bushings made the biggest difference.


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post Jan 14, 2010 - 10:59 PM
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So this basically gets rid of some play in the components?


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post Jan 14, 2010 - 11:08 PM
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looks great!
the only reason that has kept me from doing this is the work involved, and like you said itd be a pain in the butt if it where done in a garage by yourself lol
maybe ill throw them in this summer kindasad.gif


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post Jan 14, 2010 - 11:32 PM
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you might as well do an alignment after getting all those bolts loosened up!

I have decent experience with a press for doing wheel bearings and such. Did you just press the old ones out and press the new ones in? Almost like a press in wheel bearing?


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post Jan 14, 2010 - 11:58 PM
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Bushings are a PAIN IN THE BUTT to do! I did all the rears on my Miata, even with access to a shop, torch, air tools and everything it took a few days. I'd love to do the ones on the Celica, but just don't have the time or access to a shop anymore.

How much did that kit cost btw? That's the first full kit I've seen for our cars.


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post Jan 15, 2010 - 3:22 AM
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oo very nice. Cant wait to get all my suspension work on my car done! well keep us updated on your crazy driving habits. Im just like you I love to drive fast on on-ramps whenever i get the chance to its just so fun.

How much would they charge to install these things at a shop?


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post Jan 15, 2010 - 11:24 AM
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SUSPENSION-BUSHING-K...d#ht_1589wt_939

200USD
post Jan 15, 2010 - 5:33 PM
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For a few pieces of material, $200? What a ripoff.


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post Jan 15, 2010 - 5:48 PM
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QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ Jan 15, 2010 - 5:33 PM) *
For a few pieces of material, $200? What a ripoff.

that's funny


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post Jan 15, 2010 - 5:52 PM
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you have to consider that he is the only person who makes the bushings. you got to pay to play, as some would say


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post Jan 15, 2010 - 6:04 PM
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This is what I was quoted when I bought them, not sure if the price has changed since then.


The front bushings are $81.40.
The rear bushings are $195.35.
Together they are $262.90.


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post Jan 15, 2010 - 8:14 PM
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QUOTE (Batman722 @ Jan 15, 2010 - 5:48 PM) *
that's funny


Care to elaborate, am I missing something? I mean, a difference in handling is a difference in handling...200 just seems like a lot for a few pieces of polymer.



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post Jan 15, 2010 - 9:27 PM
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I'm sure if you have old crappy worn out bushings (as I do) then $200 is a steal. One of these days, I'll do it. I just don't want to pay a shop to do it.


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post Jan 15, 2010 - 10:32 PM
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I have to comment that it was money well spent. And the difference in handling all depends on the part, its not all the same and like anything else you pay more for something that makes a bigger difference. For example, how much does a stock strut bar cost and how effective is it? You pay more for a three point front or rear strut bar, why? Because it makes a bigger difference in handling. And like BonzaiCelica said, he is the only one that makes them for our cars, you pay for rare parts also. Thats why parts for Celica's are generally more expensive than for a Civic say. And I think Dustin's point is they are not just pieces or polymer, there is a lot engineering and precision involved. For example again, why do you pay so much for tires? Why do some tires cost more than others? They are all just pieces of rubber aren't they?


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post Jan 15, 2010 - 11:14 PM
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shot down, anyways when you get the fronts installed i wanna hear how it turns out.


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post Jan 16, 2010 - 12:48 AM
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QUOTE (hurley97 @ Jan 15, 2010 - 10:32 PM) *
I have to comment that it was money well spent. And the difference in handling all depends on the part, its not all the same and like anything else you pay more for something that makes a bigger difference. For example, how much does a stock strut bar cost and how effective is it? You pay more for a three point front or rear strut bar, why? Because it makes a bigger difference in handling. And like BonzaiCelica said, he is the only one that makes them for our cars, you pay for rare parts also. Thats why parts for Celica's are generally more expensive than for a Civic say. And I think Dustin's point is they are not just pieces or polymer, there is a lot engineering and precision involved. For example again, why do you pay so much for tires? Why do some tires cost more than others? They are all just pieces of rubber aren't they?


Thanks for the explanation. thumbsup.gif


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post Jan 16, 2010 - 1:30 AM
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I bought those Polish bushings for my Celica months ago. biggrin.gif Glad you like them I haven't installed them yet. frown.gif


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post Jan 16, 2010 - 1:33 AM
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QUOTE (hurley97 @ Jan 15, 2010 - 4:04 PM) *
This is what I was quoted when I bought them, not sure if the price has changed since then.


The front bushings are $81.40.
The rear bushings are $195.35.
Together they are $262.90.

You got them cheaper. I paid almost $400 shipped for my 16 bushings.


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post Jan 16, 2010 - 2:39 AM
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i would have no problem forking that out


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