 7AFE Re-Build |
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 Aug 14, 2004 - 8:58 PM
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Enthusiast  Joined Aug 3, '04 From St. Louis Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)  |
I have posted on turboing my st, but have came to the decision to do a performance rebuild on the engine first. I have about 3k to put into the rebuild, and I am not sure thats enough since a mechanic will be doing the rebuild. Well basically I want to know it 3k will be enough. Does anyone know any good helpful web sites with good info and parts.
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Aug 14, 2004 - 9:14 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined May 22, '03 From NOVA Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) |
get ARIAS pistons from a 4age engine.......
and keep your stock flywheel just shave it down to like 10lbs or so |
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Aug 15, 2004 - 2:00 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Sep 23, '03 From Miami,FL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
how much of a difference would just a lighter flywheel and pistons do?
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Aug 15, 2004 - 1:11 PM
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Enthusiast Joined May 22, '03 From NOVA Currently Offline Reputation: 16 (100%) |
the difference in the flywheel will be just that you can accel quicker than you could stock.....the pistons will be stronger and may change compression depending apon application
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Aug 15, 2004 - 4:55 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 22, '04 From illinois Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
don't forget that the lightened flywheel is very hard to drive around town, and the lighter you get, the more torque you loose. I'm pretty sure the GT has a stock 18 pound flywheel, i don't know about the ST. But i think coomer was removing his 9 pound flywheel because he basically can't stand it.
--------------------  The most important lesson I learned from Karate-Dō Kyōshan – “You can not be what you do not believe you are” |
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Aug 15, 2004 - 5:15 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 3, '04 From St. Louis Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Well I am looking to Turbo my ST, but it has about 150k miles on it. I have came up with a good list of options I can do, but my final decision is to keep the engine. I would like to know what I need to do in the re-build make the engine be able to handle more than 10psi or if it even possible on budget of 3k for a rebuild.
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Aug 15, 2004 - 5:30 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From ny to philly Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
seems to me if you have 3k for a rebuild and another 3k for a custom turbo you might as well do a 3sgte swap... ?
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Aug 15, 2004 - 5:45 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 3, '04 From St. Louis Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Yeah it does seem that way but I don't really want to do that. That is a way most people take. I think I would rather do something different, but that has crossed my mind. I think I would rather work on the engine I have though rather than getting a new engine that might have problems. But a swap has came to mind I just think I want to take a different path. Even if the results aren't as good.
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Aug 15, 2004 - 6:06 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jun 11, '04 From Wake Forest, NC Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
dude 10+psi on a 7AFTE! that'd be awesome, your gunna need forged internals and all but that'll be awesome.
???? Are you going to be doing the rebuild yourself? cause you could buy a kit for like $400? or so, and forged internals, larger injectors, and all you should still be under $3k |
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Aug 15, 2004 - 6:13 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 3, '04 From St. Louis Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Well I will not be doing the work myself because I really don't have the time. I do think I could, but I don't have the time to. But this is a project I wanna get this project done even if I am not doing all the work. The fuel system work and the Turbo is all I am going to work with, but I don't have the time or experience to screw with internals. But I really do want to deal with a swap. But does anyone have info were I can get the parst I need?
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Aug 15, 2004 - 6:15 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 3, '04 From St. Louis Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Damn I hate typing while allergies are acting up. Sorry for the screwed up sentences people.
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Aug 15, 2004 - 6:25 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 11, '04 From Wake Forest, NC Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
heh dont feel bad most of us cant type anyways... but um look up to engine swaps (STICKIES), they have alot of info. and places you can buy parts and such. or did you mean to say your DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH A SWAP? anyways, lol if you have someone else do the rebuild your looking at atleast $2k (thats a guestimate), but then if your still going to turbo forged pistons/rods w/ installation you might be able to break even at around $3k.
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Aug 15, 2004 - 6:28 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 3, '04 From St. Louis Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Yeah, I said I don't want to deal with a swap. But are you talking about all around for the re-buld and turbo or just estimating that the re-build itself could be 2000-3000
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Aug 15, 2004 - 6:55 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 4, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
take a look six posts down and you can see what edo did.
after he dynos his car and puts it all back together when ever his vacation ends i will probably do the same thing as him. Edo's 7a Rebuild This post has been edited by Sev408: Aug 15, 2004 - 6:56 PM --------------------  hows it taste motha f*cka |
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Aug 15, 2004 - 9:38 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 11, '04 From Wake Forest, NC Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i was talking about the rebuild, i just said Turbo cause if your going to turbo at that high of pressure then your going to need forged internals |
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Aug 15, 2004 - 10:36 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 3, '04 From St. Louis Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Does anyone know how much psi EDO can push through that.
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Aug 15, 2004 - 10:45 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 4, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
probly like 10 im only guessing tho. and id say 10 as daily driving im not sure what his max would be though.
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Aug 15, 2004 - 11:08 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 3, '04 From St. Louis Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Thats cool. That is what my goal is. Right now I am just doin the research and gathering info. I was refered to a book called "Forced Induction" does anyone know of anyother books that will help me out. And what can I do about rods with this engine. I already know were to get pistons.
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Aug 16, 2004 - 12:39 AM
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 Administrator Joined Aug 23, '02 From Seattle, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
You DO NOT want to do that. Shaving a stock flywheel down to a weight that low is very dangerous. A stock flywheel is designed to be strong at the stock weight, and shaving lots of weight off of the flywheel makes it much weaker, increasing the likelihood that the flywheel will explode. And a flywheel exploding at high RPM is like a grenade going off. I've read about people losing their legs, and in more severe cases, their lives, due to lightened stock flywheels exploding. I actually knew a kid last year when I was at school who had a Volkswagen GTI. He was at the track and launched and his lightened flywheel exploded. My friend got lucky and made it out with only $4,500 worth of damage to his car. An innocent bystander watching, however, had to be rushed to the hospital because a fragment of the flywheel shot out of the car and fractured his skull. If you really want a lighter flywheel, get an aftermarket one, preferable made out of one-piece chromoly steel. I recently read about a multiple-piece aluminum flywheel coming apart in a Civic in a shop and causing all kinds of damage. The starter was the only thing that prevented the outside tooth portion of the flywheel from causing harm to the driver. -------------------- New Toyota project coming soon...
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Aug 16, 2004 - 12:46 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 22, '04 From illinois Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Coomer, maybe you should let them know about your personal experience with that lightened flywheel of yours.
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