SWAY BARS, Suspension techniques Options

[jgreening]

I would really appreciate those pics Coom. I have been under my car a couple times and have a really difficult time telling where it is rubbing. It sounds as if mine is coming from the front passenger side though.

[Coomer]

I would really appreciate those pics Coom.  I have been under my car a couple times and have a really difficult time telling where it is rubbing.  It sounds as if mine is coming from the front passenger side though.
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I'll see what I can do. I think I'm pretty busy this weekend and next, but maybe during my break from work between Christmas and New Years I can get stuff done.

[Supersprynt]

wouldntn you be able to see where its rubbing as the color is rubbed off?

[Coomer]

wouldntn you be able to see where its rubbing as the color is rubbed off?
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I sure can. Maybe jgreening's doesn't rub as bad as mine does.

[Supersprynt]

I get mine in 9 days so we'll see what happens.

[latinomasfino]

I get mine in 9 days so we'll see what happens.
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where did u order ur sway bars? and how much$

[jgreening]

wouldntn you be able to see where its rubbing as the color is rubbed off?

It is VERY difficult to see up there. I had the car up on stands and with the lowered suspension there wasn't much room to look "above" the bar to see where it was hitting the underside of the car. From Coom's post I assume that the top of the sway bar is hitting the underside of the car when it goes above the underbrace. This is where I suspect mine is hitting as well and there really isnt enough room to see well. Also, the bar is silver unlike the stock black. The underside of the car is a similar color and not painted so its hard to tell.

where did u order ur sway bars? and how much$

I got mine from NOPI

[Supersprynt]

I also got mine at Nopi.

[zipstrips]

the sway bars affect the body roll and weight transfer. they'll make the steering feel much more responsive.. install only the front and you will understeer, just the rear and you will see your car oversteer more. ST recommends installing both, together. installing only the front or rear is "dangerous." i only got my front install cause i didnt feel like pulling the tank yet. understeer much? no, but if i was on the solo2 course im sure id be pushing and spinning tires much more than necessary. installing the real will clear that problem up thou. Clearence issuse? i have had no added rubbing touching or noise from my front.

[jgreening]

Coom:

Did you ever take those pics? Just curious...

Jay.

[Supersprynt]

You have to pull the tank to install the rears? Can anyone else confirm this?

[Drocay]

You have to pull the tank to install the rears? Can anyone else confirm this?
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yea, seriously i don't like the sound of that.

[S_C_M]

You have to pull the tank to install the rears? Can anyone else confirm this?
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You don't have to pull it so much as remove the tank retention bands and move it. It's slightly a PITA, but overall not too bad. I had access to a lift when I did mine; I just propped the tank with a transmission jack and maneuvered the bar into place.

I only have the ST rear bar, and I would not say that the car is "dangerous." With the bar on the least firm setting it's actually pretty neutral with my setup.

[Jeremy1210]

Ok, the front on the ST rubs on the left side right after it bends up. When you jack your car up you should be able to tell that it is a lot closer to the underbody than the right. That is where you need to pound hte area. I didn't take off my sway barm I just used a pry bar and a hammer to move it. It wasn't easy with no real room to get a great swing.

As for lubing up the bushing. I recommend using lithium grease for marine vessels. This stuff is water proof and lasts forever it seems. I also greased up where the car was rubbing to help out.

If someone wants pics still let me know cause I gotta change my oil soon

Jeremy

[Supersprynt]

Hey shoot me some pics - thanks.

[trdevelopment]

id also be interested.

[Jeremy1210]

ok. I will try to do it this weekend.

Jeremy

[jgreening]

id also be interested.

Please post the pics Jeremy. If you can't, I would like to get them too.

Jay.

[Drocay]

id also be interested.

Please post the pics Jeremy. If you can't, I would like to get them too.

Jay.
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same here bro, i would like some pics as well.

[jgreening]

I finally had a chance to get under the car and address this issue. Here is a pretty dark picture of the problem:



As you can see, the middle part of the sway bar sticks up to clear the subframe. Unfortunately, it goes up TOO FAR! The clearance with no load on the car is about 1/4 of an inch. With a load, its right next to it. Any body lean or up and down motion under torque and its hitting the undercarriage.

Above the sway bar is the undercarriage of the car. Before I did anything to it, the undercarriage was already significantly bent up from the sway bar hitting it on corners or under torque. I used a prybar (as a tool to hit - I would not recommend prying the sway bar apart from the undercarriage) and a hammer to give it greater clearance but it will only move so much. I probably got an extra 1/8" to 1/4". I haven't driven on it yet, but I am not optimistic. I am going to contact Suspension Techniques and see if they have an easier fix if this didn't work.