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post Apr 2, 2005 - 11:51 AM
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hey guys, since i've been fielding alot of questions about turboing the 5s, and most of the links in the 5sfte sticky are dead, i figured i start a thread about the buildup of my kit, and try to include as many details as possible, so everyone can learn a little more about what exactly goes into a setup like this. ill keep updating the threads and adding pics and stuff as i upload more ect..
im not gonna get into the whole why not swap a 3s instead debate here, thats a dead issue as far as im concerned. (not that i think swapping is a bad idea, just not for me.)
so, ill start off by saying the single most important thing you can do if you wanna turbo your 5s is RESEARCH! take your time, learn about the diffrent systems that all work together to make a good kit work. go to www.howstuffworks.com and find out how EVERYTHING works, it'll make understanding the hows and whys of everything so much easier. i've been reserching about this for 2+yrs and i STILL learn new things everyday.
#2 is DONT BE CHEAP...can you do it cheap? yea..will it last? prolly not.
thats gotta be the SINGLE biggest mistake i see EVERYONE make. cheap out on all the little stuff, and it WILL come back to haunt you in the end

that said, i decided i wanted to turbo my 5s. lol wink.gif
so, off on the hunt i went...parts lists, install sites, the burien kit...i searched it ALLLLLL...for MONTHS!! talking to people, looking at sites, printing info..basicly what the old timers call "goin to the woodshed"
then, i started looking for parts:
3s exhaust manifold, ct-26 turbo, oil hard lines, elbow and primary cat (also known as a downpipe), if your not planning on getting a aftermarket downpipe. also the oil pan and 2bar map sensor.
your gonna want these off of a 2nd gen 3sgte from a 90-93 alltrac or mr2T, and are pretty easy finds over on www.alltrac.net and or www.mr2oc.com. if your not a member of these 2 sites, YOU SHOULD BE!!! theres a wealth of info on these to sites, and while alot of it may not be 5sfte spacific, its still VERY good info, especially the 90-99 mr2/ 3sgte forum.
next was injectors. there is ALOT of confusion here, where to find them, what they look like, what size are they really ect.
what we're looking for is the MKIII N/A supra injectors. not turbo injectors, not alltrac injectors, N/A MKIII supra. theyre a lime green color, and 315cc. just to clear up another point of confusion, they do NOT become bigger injectors in our cars. the fuel pressure between the n/a supra and the 5s is the SAME.
there is a pic in the 5sfte sticky of what they look like and the flow tests to show it.
i found mine on ebay, but you can sometimes find them on some of the boards ive mentioned, and the supraforums.
also, i really reccomend having the injectors cleaned and balanced once you get them, if you look closley at the printout for my injectors in the sticky from when i had them cleaned and balanced, youll see why i say this.
one of my injectors wasnt even spraying, it was DRIPPING before it was cleaned. i'd HATE to see what would happen if i'd installed that thing in there and cranked up the boost! wink.gif
so yea, i really cant stress enough, HAVE YOUR INJECTORS CLEANED BEFORE YOU INSTALL THEM!!! www.rceng.com did an excelent job on mine for about 100$, and ive heard thru the mr2 board that www.witchhunter.com also does a very good job, and are only 12$ per injector.

EDIT!!! 315CC injectors are TOO SMALL for use in a turbo 5sfe. 460cc rx7 injectors are a drop in replacement and are discribed later in this post!!!


you'll also need to upgrade your fuel pump, use the 255lph walboro supra pump. you can get it for under 100 usually on ebay., and pretty much bolts in.
next for me was the intercooler..now contrary to popular belief, bigger IS NOT always better when it comes to intercoolers.
you wanna choose the smallest intercooler to fit your needs, with a LITTLE room for growth. for instance, in my case, my goal is around 190-200whp for now, so i chose a intercooler thats 26x6x3 overall length, with endtanks. its good for up to 300hp. why not somthing bigger? well, the #1 reason is theres no NEED for anything bigger. lol the bigger you go, the more pressure drop you have, and thats not what we want. with all the piping invloved for a 5sfte FMIC, the last then we want is some big honking core, sucking up 2-3 or more psi of the boost we wanna get to our engines.
for the piping, again, bigger is NOT always better. 2" or 2.25 " is more than sufficent for us. you'll need to buy pre-bent lengths and cut and fit them for your particular setup. jcwhitney is cheap for aluminized steel, or burns stainless if you want stainless pipes.
then the noise maker of the bunch wink.gif , the BOV...your choice here, i chose the HKS SSQV... got it from ebay for 190+ shipping i think it was..just make sure your buying the real thing if its from ebay, theres alot of shady copys floating around. youll also need a mounting flange to have welded to your intercooler piping, make sure you get the correct size and material to match your piping. wink.gif
TOO BE CONTINUED... biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by presure2: Nov 11, 2007 - 10:53 AM


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- presure2   my 5SFTE turbo project   Apr 2, 2005 - 11:51 AM
- - _Jim_   I am very sorry to hear this Manny, BUT I eagerly...   Mar 15, 2009 - 9:37 AM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (_Jim_ @ Mar 15, 2009 - 9:37 A...   Mar 15, 2009 - 9:53 AM
- - SeverX13   sorry to hear that manny. You will have one bada...   Mar 15, 2009 - 11:39 AM
- - Smaay   oh no, i feel your pain Manny. hopefully its just ...   Mar 15, 2009 - 11:39 AM
- - Followtheornghat   sounds like hes gonna have to rebuild the motor.. ...   Mar 16, 2009 - 5:04 AM
- - presure2   thanks guys. damn...i really do know i shouldnt d...   Mar 16, 2009 - 7:11 AM
- - jcaron9gt4   dooooo itttttttt. You're going to be building...   Mar 16, 2009 - 9:08 AM
- - 6strngs   do it! it should last a few more pulls. just d...   Mar 16, 2009 - 9:21 AM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (6strngs @ Mar 16, 2009 - 9:21...   Mar 16, 2009 - 10:00 AM
- - DEATH   Dude - very sorry to hear that. Look at it this wa...   Mar 16, 2009 - 10:32 AM
- - Defgeph   Damn that's crazy. I know you'll get her b...   Mar 16, 2009 - 11:10 AM
- - d0w0rkS0n   oh damn... well... dyno it! lol lets see w...   Mar 16, 2009 - 1:39 PM
- - presure2   got the motor ready to come out last night, its si...   Mar 18, 2009 - 8:13 AM
- - x_itchy_b_x   ouch sorry to hear man. let me know if you need a ...   Mar 18, 2009 - 8:43 AM
- - 6strngs   will you be putting the cams into dustin's 5s ...   Mar 19, 2009 - 12:48 AM
- - BBoYRuGGeD   oh damn...wonder how much harder it woulda pulled ...   Mar 19, 2009 - 12:56 AM
- - presure2   6strings: i will be installing the cams back into ...   Mar 19, 2009 - 7:07 AM
- - playr158   so i guess we know one of the 5sfe motor limits...   Mar 19, 2009 - 7:59 AM
|- - _Jim_   QUOTE (playr158 @ Mar 19, 2009 - 8:5...   Mar 19, 2009 - 12:25 PM
- - Smaay   it looks like you pulled the power steering pump o...   Mar 19, 2009 - 9:30 AM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (Smaay @ Mar 19, 2009 - 9:30 A...   Mar 19, 2009 - 9:53 AM
||- - Terracar   Wow, man sorry to hear the motor went down. Not su...   Mar 19, 2009 - 11:47 AM
||- - presure2   QUOTE (Terracar @ Mar 19, 2009 - 11...   Mar 19, 2009 - 6:31 PM
|- - 6strngs   QUOTE (Smaay @ Mar 19, 2009 - 7:30 A...   Mar 19, 2009 - 12:29 PM
- - lagos   Even that ps bolt can be a bitch to remove though....   Mar 19, 2009 - 6:55 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (lagos @ Mar 19, 2009 - 6:55 P...   Mar 19, 2009 - 7:29 PM
- - RUNNIN-LOW   well P your off to a nice start man.. and you to...   Mar 19, 2009 - 7:59 PM
- - playr158   QUOTE (_Jim_ @ Mar 19, 2009 - 1:25 P...   Mar 20, 2009 - 7:18 AM
- - lagos   QUOTE (playr158 @ Mar 20, 2009 - 8:1...   Mar 20, 2009 - 9:31 AM
- - presure2   QUOTE On top of all that, he got rid of the blue v...   Mar 20, 2009 - 10:21 AM
- - devilsden97   Truely amazing. I know i havnt been around much, b...   Mar 20, 2009 - 11:12 AM
- - Terracar   LOL just read my post - about PS - meant with PS s...   Mar 20, 2009 - 12:09 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (Terracar @ Mar 20, 2009 - 12...   Mar 20, 2009 - 12:34 PM
- - jcaron9gt4   Turbo.Celica.Reliable - Pick two. Kidding, Hate t...   Mar 20, 2009 - 2:03 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (jcaron9gt4 @ Mar 20, 2009 - 2...   Mar 21, 2009 - 4:57 AM
|- - 6strngs   QUOTE (presure2 @ Mar 21, 2009 - 2:5...   Mar 22, 2009 - 1:27 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE (jcaron9gt4 @ Mar 20, 2009 - 3...   Mar 20, 2009 - 3:41 PM
- - lagos   So your fpr never had a vac source?   Mar 21, 2009 - 10:38 AM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (lagos @ Mar 21, 2009 - 10:38 ...   Mar 21, 2009 - 12:21 PM
|- - presure2   lmao art and dworkson.. yea shannon, im very happy...   Mar 21, 2009 - 1:45 PM
- - playr158   that could be an issue!   Mar 21, 2009 - 11:02 AM
- - supershannon77   wow that's some amazing stuff right there ...I...   Mar 21, 2009 - 12:30 PM
- - lagos   The little 5s that could!   Mar 21, 2009 - 12:31 PM
|- - d0w0rkS0n   QUOTE (lagos @ Mar 21, 2009 - 12:31 ...   Mar 21, 2009 - 1:34 PM
- - Fastbird   Those cylinders walls don't look too bad. Jus...   Mar 21, 2009 - 1:52 PM
- - RUNNIN-LOW   look good p well your well on your way man! ni...   Mar 21, 2009 - 3:12 PM
- - Smaay   yeah the cylinders dont look bad at all. since you...   Mar 21, 2009 - 3:55 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (Smaay @ Mar 21, 2009 - 3:55 P...   Mar 21, 2009 - 4:11 PM
- - hurley97   Nice, that doesn't look too bad at all. Actual...   Mar 21, 2009 - 7:33 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (hurley97 @ Mar 21, 2009 - 7:3...   Mar 22, 2009 - 8:13 AM
- - lagos   QUOTE (hurley97 @ Mar 21, 2009 - 8:3...   Mar 22, 2009 - 9:25 AM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (lagos @ Mar 22, 2009 - 9:25 A...   Mar 22, 2009 - 9:36 AM
- - lagos   Thats ****ing epic.   Mar 22, 2009 - 10:04 AM
- - 95st-celica   nice work manny, glad to see there isnt major dama...   Mar 22, 2009 - 11:09 AM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (95st-celica @ Mar 22, 2009 ...   Mar 22, 2009 - 1:52 PM
|- - 95st-celica   QUOTE (presure2 @ Mar 22, 2009 - 2:5...   Mar 22, 2009 - 3:03 PM
- - jimmykay   I'm so glad that there wasnt any major damage ...   Mar 24, 2009 - 8:33 AM
- - njccmd2002   wow, this should be an epic novel. glad its not a...   Mar 30, 2009 - 2:58 AM
- - 97lestyousay   Wow that sucks. I haven't been on much my n...   Mar 30, 2009 - 8:09 PM
- - supershannon77   I love that it say's ART!!!!...   Mar 30, 2009 - 8:52 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE (supershannon77 @ Mar 30, 2009 - 9...   Mar 30, 2009 - 10:04 PM
- - Consynx   wow, i read from page 15 on. that was ballsy, WOTn...   Mar 30, 2009 - 11:35 PM
- - presure2   the block went out to get hot tanked last night, m...   Mar 31, 2009 - 6:25 AM
- - CelicaZR   That does look very clean! Good luck putting i...   Mar 31, 2009 - 6:41 AM
- - presure2   i got the parts that i was waiting on from steff y...   Apr 5, 2009 - 8:10 AM
- - presure2   i did a little research on rings, and found some i...   Apr 5, 2009 - 10:58 AM
|- - crankyelbow   QUOTE (presure2 @ Apr 5, 2009 - 11:5...   Apr 5, 2009 - 5:40 PM
- - supershannon77   looks real good manny...I like the block looks l...   Apr 5, 2009 - 4:21 PM
|- - crankyelbow   QUOTE (supershannon77 @ Apr 5, 2009 - 5...   Apr 5, 2009 - 5:39 PM
- - presure2   bottom end is built. pics a little later.   Apr 5, 2009 - 4:54 PM
- - presure2   a few pics of putting the bottom end together. lu...   Apr 5, 2009 - 5:40 PM
- - lagos   Nice dude, very nice.   Apr 5, 2009 - 7:07 PM
- - 6strngs   Are you planning to do any plans to the top end? l...   Apr 6, 2009 - 1:32 AM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (6strngs @ Apr 6, 2009 - 1:32 ...   Apr 6, 2009 - 5:08 AM
- - playr158   Nice work brother, I like your parts washer. and...   Apr 6, 2009 - 6:18 AM
- - Fate   looks awesome manny!   Apr 6, 2009 - 9:57 AM
- - Defgeph   This is as good as winning a free boat ride for 3...   Apr 6, 2009 - 10:05 AM
- - d0w0rkS0n   i need to get my hands on one of those parts washe...   Apr 6, 2009 - 10:19 AM
- - Smaay   i was going to suggest a larger ring gap. i gapped...   Apr 6, 2009 - 12:30 PM
- - presure2   cleaned some stuff up today in the parts washer, j...   Apr 8, 2009 - 7:42 PM
- - lagos   damn. what solution do you fill the parts washer w...   Apr 8, 2009 - 7:56 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (lagos @ Apr 8, 2009 - 7:56 PM...   Apr 9, 2009 - 12:39 PM
- - supershannon77   that part washer is amazing manny and jenn....ever...   Apr 8, 2009 - 8:06 PM
- - Batman722   Nice !   Apr 9, 2009 - 4:51 PM
- - bccentaur3   What about the port in the intake manifold? Are yo...   Apr 9, 2009 - 5:52 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (bccentaur3 @ Apr 9, 2009 - 5...   Apr 9, 2009 - 5:54 PM
- - bccentaur3   Nice Manny!!   Apr 9, 2009 - 5:55 PM
- - presure2   pics from yesterday here is what i was talki...   Apr 10, 2009 - 4:37 PM
- - d0w0rkS0n   lookin really nice   Apr 11, 2009 - 11:33 AM
- - presure2   installed the oil and water pumps this morning, an...   Apr 12, 2009 - 4:47 PM
- - presure2   oil and water pump, cams and oil pan installed. ge...   Apr 13, 2009 - 5:52 AM
- - jcaron9gt4   Break in period or will you be going straight to b...   Apr 13, 2009 - 6:34 AM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (jcaron9gt4 @ Apr 13, 2009 - 6...   Apr 13, 2009 - 7:54 AM
- - Red_T_swiftcam   hey Manny, would a 38mm wastegate block off plate ...   Apr 14, 2009 - 7:43 AM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (Red_T_swiftcam @ Apr 14, 2009 - 7...   Apr 14, 2009 - 12:23 PM
- - playr158   QUOTE (presure2 @ Apr 13, 2009 - 8:5...   Apr 14, 2009 - 7:52 AM
- - Dr_Tweak   Nice work Manny. Are you guys coming down to the D...   Apr 14, 2009 - 8:56 AM
- - Smaay   good start. id make a point about the fake Walboro...   Apr 14, 2009 - 9:30 AM
- - 95st-celica   looks good manny...as for the break in period...i ...   Apr 14, 2009 - 10:12 AM
- - lagos   QUOTE (playr158 @ Apr 14, 2009 - 8:5...   Apr 14, 2009 - 12:39 PM
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