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post Apr 2, 2005 - 11:51 AM
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hey guys, since i've been fielding alot of questions about turboing the 5s, and most of the links in the 5sfte sticky are dead, i figured i start a thread about the buildup of my kit, and try to include as many details as possible, so everyone can learn a little more about what exactly goes into a setup like this. ill keep updating the threads and adding pics and stuff as i upload more ect..
im not gonna get into the whole why not swap a 3s instead debate here, thats a dead issue as far as im concerned. (not that i think swapping is a bad idea, just not for me.)
so, ill start off by saying the single most important thing you can do if you wanna turbo your 5s is RESEARCH! take your time, learn about the diffrent systems that all work together to make a good kit work. go to www.howstuffworks.com and find out how EVERYTHING works, it'll make understanding the hows and whys of everything so much easier. i've been reserching about this for 2+yrs and i STILL learn new things everyday.
#2 is DONT BE CHEAP...can you do it cheap? yea..will it last? prolly not.
thats gotta be the SINGLE biggest mistake i see EVERYONE make. cheap out on all the little stuff, and it WILL come back to haunt you in the end

that said, i decided i wanted to turbo my 5s. lol wink.gif
so, off on the hunt i went...parts lists, install sites, the burien kit...i searched it ALLLLLL...for MONTHS!! talking to people, looking at sites, printing info..basicly what the old timers call "goin to the woodshed"
then, i started looking for parts:
3s exhaust manifold, ct-26 turbo, oil hard lines, elbow and primary cat (also known as a downpipe), if your not planning on getting a aftermarket downpipe. also the oil pan and 2bar map sensor.
your gonna want these off of a 2nd gen 3sgte from a 90-93 alltrac or mr2T, and are pretty easy finds over on www.alltrac.net and or www.mr2oc.com. if your not a member of these 2 sites, YOU SHOULD BE!!! theres a wealth of info on these to sites, and while alot of it may not be 5sfte spacific, its still VERY good info, especially the 90-99 mr2/ 3sgte forum.
next was injectors. there is ALOT of confusion here, where to find them, what they look like, what size are they really ect.
what we're looking for is the MKIII N/A supra injectors. not turbo injectors, not alltrac injectors, N/A MKIII supra. theyre a lime green color, and 315cc. just to clear up another point of confusion, they do NOT become bigger injectors in our cars. the fuel pressure between the n/a supra and the 5s is the SAME.
there is a pic in the 5sfte sticky of what they look like and the flow tests to show it.
i found mine on ebay, but you can sometimes find them on some of the boards ive mentioned, and the supraforums.
also, i really reccomend having the injectors cleaned and balanced once you get them, if you look closley at the printout for my injectors in the sticky from when i had them cleaned and balanced, youll see why i say this.
one of my injectors wasnt even spraying, it was DRIPPING before it was cleaned. i'd HATE to see what would happen if i'd installed that thing in there and cranked up the boost! wink.gif
so yea, i really cant stress enough, HAVE YOUR INJECTORS CLEANED BEFORE YOU INSTALL THEM!!! www.rceng.com did an excelent job on mine for about 100$, and ive heard thru the mr2 board that www.witchhunter.com also does a very good job, and are only 12$ per injector.

EDIT!!! 315CC injectors are TOO SMALL for use in a turbo 5sfe. 460cc rx7 injectors are a drop in replacement and are discribed later in this post!!!


you'll also need to upgrade your fuel pump, use the 255lph walboro supra pump. you can get it for under 100 usually on ebay., and pretty much bolts in.
next for me was the intercooler..now contrary to popular belief, bigger IS NOT always better when it comes to intercoolers.
you wanna choose the smallest intercooler to fit your needs, with a LITTLE room for growth. for instance, in my case, my goal is around 190-200whp for now, so i chose a intercooler thats 26x6x3 overall length, with endtanks. its good for up to 300hp. why not somthing bigger? well, the #1 reason is theres no NEED for anything bigger. lol the bigger you go, the more pressure drop you have, and thats not what we want. with all the piping invloved for a 5sfte FMIC, the last then we want is some big honking core, sucking up 2-3 or more psi of the boost we wanna get to our engines.
for the piping, again, bigger is NOT always better. 2" or 2.25 " is more than sufficent for us. you'll need to buy pre-bent lengths and cut and fit them for your particular setup. jcwhitney is cheap for aluminized steel, or burns stainless if you want stainless pipes.
then the noise maker of the bunch wink.gif , the BOV...your choice here, i chose the HKS SSQV... got it from ebay for 190+ shipping i think it was..just make sure your buying the real thing if its from ebay, theres alot of shady copys floating around. youll also need a mounting flange to have welded to your intercooler piping, make sure you get the correct size and material to match your piping. wink.gif
TOO BE CONTINUED... biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by presure2: Nov 11, 2007 - 10:53 AM


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- presure2   my 5SFTE turbo project   Apr 2, 2005 - 11:51 AM
- - ravinaziankid   OK, figured it out, but tunertoys is closed down, ...   Sep 16, 2009 - 12:38 PM
- - Batman722   I have one, $30 shipped, pm me.   Sep 16, 2009 - 2:47 PM
- - TRD_Ian   manny thanks for such a good thread! iv been r...   Sep 16, 2009 - 3:15 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (TRD_Ian @ Sep 16, 2009 - 3:15...   Sep 16, 2009 - 4:28 PM
- - TRD_Ian   maybe i was thinking about 3s hardware then..when ...   Sep 16, 2009 - 10:48 PM
- - CelicaST_CALI   Amazing manny Must read for anyone thinking of a ...   Sep 17, 2009 - 12:06 AM
- - ravinaziankid   I'm trying to figure out how to do the tuning ...   Sep 18, 2009 - 11:40 AM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (ravinaziankid @ Sep 18, 2009 - 11...   Sep 18, 2009 - 7:54 PM
- - ravinaziankid   OK, cool..so just the SAFC 2 and wideband would be...   Sep 19, 2009 - 10:22 AM
- - presure2   no problem man, thats what we're all here for.   Sep 19, 2009 - 5:57 PM
- - presure2   ok so its been a few months since my last update. ...   Dec 5, 2009 - 8:47 AM
- - jcaron9gt4   2005-2010 RIP   Dec 5, 2009 - 9:53 AM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (jcaron9gt4 @ Dec 5, 2009 - 9...   Dec 5, 2009 - 9:54 AM
- - samir0189   sad to see you are gonna give up on this, but it i...   Dec 5, 2009 - 10:30 AM
|- - njccmd2002   QUOTE (samir0189 @ Dec 5, 2009 - 9:3...   Dec 12, 2009 - 10:07 PM
- - lagos   I just saw this thread. Sorry to hear about what h...   Dec 8, 2009 - 5:18 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (lagos @ Dec 8, 2009 - 5:18 PM...   Dec 8, 2009 - 5:40 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   sorry to hear man, I just popped my engine also :X...   Dec 8, 2009 - 5:53 PM
- - lagos   Hows your vac? When my friends 3s blew on the dyno...   Dec 8, 2009 - 5:57 PM
- - presure2   Thanks horniak, what happen this time? Art, warm i...   Dec 8, 2009 - 7:03 PM
- - Smaay   if you broke a ring land you are tearing up thay c...   Dec 12, 2009 - 12:35 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (Smaay @ Dec 12, 2009 - 12:35 ...   Dec 12, 2009 - 8:10 PM
- - lagos   Lol hes never selling that car!   Dec 12, 2009 - 5:07 PM
- - dustin15brown   definitely doesn't count as giving up, but I l...   Dec 13, 2009 - 3:10 PM
- - cardshark525   I just wanted to clarify something I may have miss...   Dec 14, 2009 - 1:21 AM
- - presure2   i dont see it as giving up, i see it as moving on ...   Dec 14, 2009 - 6:28 AM
|- - SlvrCelica09   QUOTE (presure2 @ Dec 14, 2009 - 6:2...   Dec 14, 2009 - 10:03 AM
- - supershannon77   I say go e153 I know you want to Jen   Dec 14, 2009 - 5:00 PM
- - samir0189   wow sorry if i seemed to offend everybody. I mea...   Dec 14, 2009 - 5:17 PM
- - presure2   We definetly want to go e153..just a matter of if ...   Dec 14, 2009 - 5:18 PM
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- - SwissFerdi   Sorry to see it end, but it's being replaced b...   Jun 20, 2010 - 10:12 AM
- - 6strngs   One day when I'm on my feet and have a decent ...   Jun 20, 2010 - 2:09 PM
- - jeffrosie   Is this a sticky?? It should be Back to the front   Jan 11, 2011 - 6:11 PM
|- - D-Man   QUOTE (jeffrosie @ Jan 11, 2011 - 5...   Jan 11, 2011 - 7:17 PM
- - presure2   its in there.   Jan 12, 2011 - 7:38 AM
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