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post Aug 18, 2005 - 9:18 AM
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In Europe we also have celica's with Superstrut Suspension.
Thats wy i'm sharing this information!


The ST205 GT-Four uses a system of front suspension design unique to Toyota. It moves away from the MacPherson strut used on all other Celicas and is much more complex. This system is used on the GT-Four, some Japanese spec Corollas and the higher spec Japanese fwd Celicas (SSII and SSIII). It was available in Europe on the Carina GTi and was an option on the ST202 (thanks Dirk for the info).

My understanding of the system is that the geometry does not give the same camber and castor changes during cornering that occur with MacPherson strut. Is it better? Well, it is different. There are reliability problems if maintenance isn't kept up, TTE had continual problems and I believe they swapped the rally cars back to MacPherson strut.

A brief description of MacPherson strut is in order. The Toyota system uses a lower A arm with rubber bushings front and rear. This has only one degree of motion (ie. it rotates on the bushings). At the outer point of the A arm is a balljoint which connects to the steering knuckle and allows for rotation (steering) and pivot (shock compression). The steering knuckle is rigidly bolted to the bottom of the strut. The whole strut turns when steering, twisting in the roller bearing in the top mount. Fairly simple and cheap, used by most manufacturers.

So what is Superstrut suspension? It is a hybrid between normal MacPherson strut and a multilink setup. One of the requirements of the design brief was that the system would fit existing suspension mount locations. Therefore the system can be fitted into export Celicas as well as the Japanese lower spec SSI! The late production cars even share the same subframe.

The photo below shows the lower part of the system. This consists of a front and rear lower arm, connected (by rodends) to a connector plate. The rear arm has a rubber bushing at the inner end (the only rubber bushing at the front except swaybar D-bushings), the front arm has a balljoint. This system allows the arms to pivot as the suspension turns.

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The steering knuckle is quite different to that of the MacPherson strut cars. It bolts securely to the connector plate joining the lower arms (see photo below). The top end connects to the strut part way up using a balljoint (see red arrow in left picture and upper arrow in right picture below. The strut mounts to the body in the normal way, but the lower end is secured to the front lower arm using another pivoting arm visible at the right in the photo above. This arm is near vertical in the photos, it is actually about 150mm long and pivots at each end.

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The photo of the assembled suspension below shows that the strut rotates minimally when steering ( the same amount as the front lower arm as it is rigidly connected). The steering knuckle moves instead. While the outboard strut moves rearwards slightly when the car turns in (turning left in the photo), it can be seen that the hub moves forward. But because of the strut movement the actual movement at the wheel is minimised.

The second photo shows the mounting points for the lower arms on the subframe.

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All the info from: gtfour.supras.org.nz

Posts in this topic
- celi94   Superstrut Suspension   Aug 18, 2005 - 9:18 AM
- - Rusty   Here is my understanding regarding your question b...   Apr 1, 2010 - 12:59 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   do 7th gen superstrut suspension work for the 6th ...   May 16, 2010 - 9:04 PM
|- - Edophus   QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ May 17, 2010 - 3...   May 18, 2010 - 11:23 AM
- - nammer   my stock super strut suspensions on my 94 gt-four ...   May 17, 2010 - 1:09 PM
- - Rusty   check the SSS part thread in the suspension sticky...   May 17, 2010 - 3:04 PM
|- - nammer   QUOTE (Rusty @ May 17, 2010 - 1:04 P...   May 17, 2010 - 8:01 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   is the drop on superstrut suspension the same heig...   May 17, 2010 - 11:16 PM
- - Euphoria   only difference would be the GT-4 super strut as i...   May 18, 2010 - 2:41 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   QUOTE (Edophus @ May 18, 2010 - 12:2...   May 18, 2010 - 4:15 PM
|- - Edophus   QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ May 18, 2010 - 10...   May 18, 2010 - 5:10 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   hmm yup. thats so good to hear!   May 20, 2010 - 10:23 PM
- - linkerx   RE: Superstrut Suspension   May 22, 2010 - 11:20 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   anyone care to explain this illustration please...   May 24, 2010 - 9:53 PM
|- - Edophus   thankyou i think that is a brilliant visulization ...   May 25, 2010 - 10:40 AM
- - Rusty   top pic is underneath second is in front of the ca...   May 25, 2010 - 1:31 AM
|- - Penkka   QUOTE (Rusty @ May 25, 2010 - 1:31 A...   May 25, 2010 - 6:47 AM
- - Rusty   lol so it is, fixed my above statement yeah its...   May 25, 2010 - 4:12 PM
|- - linkerx   QUOTE (Rusty @ May 25, 2010 - 4:12 P...   May 25, 2010 - 10:36 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   Edophus any luck finding those pics and vids of yo...   Jun 5, 2010 - 5:05 AM
|- - Edophus   QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Jun 5, 2010 - 11...   Jun 9, 2010 - 10:20 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   any luck with those videos?? How will the drop wi...   Sep 4, 2010 - 7:13 PM
|- - Edophus   QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Sep 5, 2010 - 1...   Sep 6, 2010 - 10:30 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   ok thanks for clearing that up! nice pic i se...   Sep 6, 2010 - 2:52 PM
|- - Edophus   lol i took the skirts off because i needed to seal...   Sep 6, 2010 - 3:26 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   no no no edophus I totally know that there would b...   Sep 6, 2010 - 9:50 PM
|- - Edophus   QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Sep 7, 2010 - 3...   Sep 7, 2010 - 4:55 AM
|- - Rusty   QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Sep 30, 2010 - 11...   Sep 30, 2010 - 1:22 AM
|- - Edophus   QUOTE (Rusty @ Sep 30, 2010 - 7:22 A...   Oct 16, 2010 - 5:49 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   yup yup I just want to get the most potential out ...   Sep 7, 2010 - 9:52 PM
- - Tony-B   Are those Advan RC's? I've just bought a s...   Sep 8, 2010 - 5:47 PM
|- - Edophus   yup and there also for sale if you know of anyone ...   Sep 9, 2010 - 5:36 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   yea your celica does look like a bloated integra i...   Sep 10, 2010 - 2:15 AM
- - nsxtypeR   The parts that wear out are the camber control lin...   Sep 10, 2010 - 7:28 AM
|- - BonzaiCelica   QUOTE (nsxtypeR @ Sep 10, 2010 - 8:2...   Sep 12, 2010 - 2:38 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   so how would I go about getting alignment for the ...   Sep 22, 2010 - 7:55 PM
- - Rusty   one is expensive, the other is discontinued.   Sep 23, 2010 - 12:43 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   QUOTE (Rusty @ Sep 23, 2010 - 1:43 A...   Sep 23, 2010 - 1:04 AM
- - 3WayStunna   From what i understand, TRD and TEIN coilovers are...   Sep 23, 2010 - 7:34 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   QUOTE (3WayStunna @ Sep 23, 2010 - 7...   Sep 24, 2010 - 9:00 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   QUOTE (nsxtypeR @ Sep 10, 2010 - 8:2...   Sep 27, 2010 - 2:48 PM
|- - Edophus   tien and trd are not the same, the trd coilovers u...   Sep 27, 2010 - 5:52 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   SUPERSTRUT SUSPENSION FTW!!! I only go...   Sep 29, 2010 - 6:36 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   yup will do when the time is right. I still have m...   Sep 30, 2010 - 3:00 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   Can someone convert these numbers in the ST202 Sup...   Sep 30, 2010 - 6:03 PM
- - azian_advanced   just multiply the kgf/mm value by 9.81 to get it i...   Oct 1, 2010 - 2:41 AM
- - Rusty   QUOTE there is a noticeable difference between the...   Oct 16, 2010 - 11:54 PM
|- - Edophus   QUOTE (Rusty @ Oct 17, 2010 - 5:54 A...   Oct 18, 2010 - 5:25 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   oo very nice argument guys! hey Edophus I love...   Oct 18, 2010 - 7:41 PM
|- - Edophus   QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Oct 19, 2010 - 1...   Oct 19, 2010 - 5:31 AM
- - Rusty   Ok, I've done some quick searching and I think...   Oct 22, 2010 - 2:49 AM
|- - Edophus   QUOTE (Rusty @ Oct 22, 2010 - 8:49 A...   Oct 22, 2010 - 6:42 AM
|- - Nial   QUOTE (Edophus @ Oct 22, 2010 - 6:42...   Dec 11, 2010 - 7:35 AM
|- - Edophus   QUOTE (Nial @ Dec 11, 2010 - 12:35 P...   Dec 13, 2010 - 3:53 AM
|- - BonzaiCelica   QUOTE (Edophus @ Dec 13, 2010 - 3:53...   Dec 13, 2010 - 10:03 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   ooo more info on the superstrut suspension. I don...   Oct 23, 2010 - 1:37 PM
|- - Edophus   QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Oct 23, 2010 - 7...   Oct 23, 2010 - 2:02 PM
|- - Edophus   i finnally uploaded a bit more of the ss3, this is...   Oct 23, 2010 - 5:04 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   how much did you lower those TRD Coilovers when yo...   Nov 16, 2010 - 4:30 AM
|- - Edophus   QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Nov 16, 2010 - 10...   Nov 16, 2010 - 10:49 AM
|- - BonzaiCelica   QUOTE (Edophus @ Nov 16, 2010 - 11:4...   Nov 17, 2010 - 1:17 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   these are quite expensive Edophus. Although Tein m...   Dec 10, 2010 - 3:09 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   QUOTE (Edophus @ Nov 16, 2010 - 10:4...   Dec 12, 2010 - 4:47 AM
- - boyota   Hello there I'm going to replace the ...   Dec 15, 2010 - 5:54 AM
- - nsxtypeR   Just OEM parts   Dec 15, 2010 - 1:41 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   guide to converting superstrut to mcerphson will b...   Apr 17, 2011 - 7:25 AM
- - nsxtypeR   Axles are different. The superstrut hubs have 21 s...   Apr 17, 2011 - 9:43 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   don't worry nsxtype r is wrong continue readin...   Apr 17, 2011 - 4:33 PM
- - yungazzdriver   wait, I read somwhere that st204 and st205 hubs ar...   Apr 18, 2011 - 9:08 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   yes dude the hubs are the same, so in turn if you ...   Apr 18, 2011 - 10:18 PM
- - yungazzdriver   So how would i go about making the super strut sus...   Apr 19, 2011 - 8:36 AM
- - yungazzdriver   Never mind I just read up on the how to change fro...   Apr 19, 2011 - 2:09 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   edophus what type of sway bars were you running wh...   Jun 9, 2011 - 5:01 PM
|- - Edophus   QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Jun 9, 2011 - 11...   Jun 17, 2011 - 9:46 AM
- - jordisonjr   Did every Gt four (st205) come from factory with s...   Jun 17, 2011 - 11:07 AM
- - nsxtypeR   Yes   Jun 17, 2011 - 11:28 AM
- - jordisonjr   So if you find a gtfour for sale with after market...   Jun 17, 2011 - 11:08 PM
- - Neon90424   yes or its an alltrac   Jun 18, 2011 - 9:37 AM
- - nsxtypeR   That's correct. Many 6th gen GTFOUR owners did...   Jun 18, 2011 - 1:33 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   superstrut would be more of an advantage on a FWD ...   Jun 18, 2011 - 3:56 PM
- - nsxtypeR   I don't know if it is more of an advantage on ...   Jun 18, 2011 - 4:38 PM
|- - Edophus   QUOTE (nsxtypeR @ Jun 18, 2011 - 10...   Jun 22, 2011 - 3:45 PM
- - Rusty   Typical replacement is around 80,000-120,000km...   Jun 20, 2011 - 1:42 AM
- - cax_11   Can someone help me on this. How do you test it? A...   Jun 22, 2011 - 3:22 AM
|- - Edophus   QUOTE (cax_11 @ Jun 22, 2011 - 9:22 ...   Jun 22, 2011 - 3:34 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   hmm good points edophus.   Jun 22, 2011 - 11:38 PM
|- - Edophus   QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Jun 23, 2011 - 5...   Jun 23, 2011 - 2:32 PM
- - TheChildOfTheSea   My question is... What are the parts composing the...   Jun 23, 2011 - 1:11 PM
- - TheChildOfTheSea   ahh, I ended up reading the 3 pages of the topic, ...   Jun 23, 2011 - 4:39 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   QUOTE (Rusty @ Jun 20, 2011 - 1:42 A...   Jun 24, 2011 - 1:34 AM
- - TheChildOfTheSea   Ah nice! thanks for the quotes!   Jun 24, 2011 - 9:50 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   ok these are the differences I got between SS3 and...   Jun 24, 2011 - 6:35 PM
- - jordisonjr   So I've read through this whole thread and sti...   Jul 27, 2011 - 4:15 PM
|- - TheChildOfTheSea   QUOTE (jordisonjr @ Jul 27, 2011 - 5...   Jul 27, 2011 - 4:41 PM
- - jordisonjr   So would you have to do custom modification to get...   Jul 27, 2011 - 10:46 PM
|- - TheChildOfTheSea   QUOTE (jordisonjr @ Jul 27, 2011 - 11...   Jul 28, 2011 - 1:31 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   guide to converting superstrut to mcerphson will b...   Jul 28, 2011 - 2:49 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   what are the torque specs for all the Superstrut p...   Aug 13, 2011 - 10:55 PM
- - Nial   Probably covers everything twice????   Aug 14, 2011 - 2:04 AM
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