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post Aug 18, 2005 - 9:18 AM
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In Europe we also have celica's with Superstrut Suspension.
Thats wy i'm sharing this information!


The ST205 GT-Four uses a system of front suspension design unique to Toyota. It moves away from the MacPherson strut used on all other Celicas and is much more complex. This system is used on the GT-Four, some Japanese spec Corollas and the higher spec Japanese fwd Celicas (SSII and SSIII). It was available in Europe on the Carina GTi and was an option on the ST202 (thanks Dirk for the info).

My understanding of the system is that the geometry does not give the same camber and castor changes during cornering that occur with MacPherson strut. Is it better? Well, it is different. There are reliability problems if maintenance isn't kept up, TTE had continual problems and I believe they swapped the rally cars back to MacPherson strut.

A brief description of MacPherson strut is in order. The Toyota system uses a lower A arm with rubber bushings front and rear. This has only one degree of motion (ie. it rotates on the bushings). At the outer point of the A arm is a balljoint which connects to the steering knuckle and allows for rotation (steering) and pivot (shock compression). The steering knuckle is rigidly bolted to the bottom of the strut. The whole strut turns when steering, twisting in the roller bearing in the top mount. Fairly simple and cheap, used by most manufacturers.

So what is Superstrut suspension? It is a hybrid between normal MacPherson strut and a multilink setup. One of the requirements of the design brief was that the system would fit existing suspension mount locations. Therefore the system can be fitted into export Celicas as well as the Japanese lower spec SSI! The late production cars even share the same subframe.

The photo below shows the lower part of the system. This consists of a front and rear lower arm, connected (by rodends) to a connector plate. The rear arm has a rubber bushing at the inner end (the only rubber bushing at the front except swaybar D-bushings), the front arm has a balljoint. This system allows the arms to pivot as the suspension turns.

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The steering knuckle is quite different to that of the MacPherson strut cars. It bolts securely to the connector plate joining the lower arms (see photo below). The top end connects to the strut part way up using a balljoint (see red arrow in left picture and upper arrow in right picture below. The strut mounts to the body in the normal way, but the lower end is secured to the front lower arm using another pivoting arm visible at the right in the photo above. This arm is near vertical in the photos, it is actually about 150mm long and pivots at each end.

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The photo of the assembled suspension below shows that the strut rotates minimally when steering ( the same amount as the front lower arm as it is rigidly connected). The steering knuckle moves instead. While the outboard strut moves rearwards slightly when the car turns in (turning left in the photo), it can be seen that the hub moves forward. But because of the strut movement the actual movement at the wheel is minimised.

The second photo shows the mounting points for the lower arms on the subframe.

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All the info from: gtfour.supras.org.nz

Posts in this topic
- celi94   Superstrut Suspension   Aug 18, 2005 - 9:18 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   RE: Superstrut Suspension   Sep 12, 2011 - 4:33 PM
- - Rusty   No, the springs are different between the GT4, McP...   Sep 13, 2011 - 2:32 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   no rusty as I said they all start with that part n...   Sep 13, 2011 - 4:07 AM
- - Rusty   Well you did say they were "identical" m...   Sep 14, 2011 - 2:45 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   I'd say the splines for the from the SS-II Sup...   Sep 19, 2011 - 3:28 PM
- - LimitedGT4   k so clarification, i read somewhere all celica ...   Sep 20, 2011 - 9:38 PM
|- - BonzaiCelica   QUOTE (LimitedGT4 @ Sep 20, 2011 - 9...   Sep 20, 2011 - 10:08 PM
- - GT4   Hello guys Can anyone tell me what suspension kit ...   Oct 13, 2011 - 6:11 AM
- - Rusty   Seen the sticky threads? The Suspension, Handling ...   Oct 14, 2011 - 12:54 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   if you watch from the first lap at 1:35 - 1:50 you...   Dec 23, 2011 - 5:30 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   guide to converting superstrut to mcerphson will b...   Mar 28, 2012 - 6:19 PM
- - Edophus   interesting counterpoint to the often repeated fac...   Apr 6, 2012 - 6:35 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   guide to converting superstrut to mcerphson will b...   Apr 10, 2012 - 4:57 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   nothing to see here members...   May 23, 2012 - 4:12 PM
- - LimitedGT4   good stuff, lets hope more users decide on this s...   May 23, 2012 - 5:18 PM
|- - BonzaiCelica   QUOTE (LimitedGT4 @ May 23, 2012 - 5...   May 23, 2012 - 5:24 PM
- - LimitedGT4   i cant really tell for sure, one side seems very s...   May 23, 2012 - 6:01 PM
|- - BonzaiCelica   QUOTE (LimitedGT4 @ May 23, 2012 - 6...   May 23, 2012 - 6:11 PM
|- - Edophus   QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ May 24, 2012 - 12...   May 30, 2012 - 7:49 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   guide to converting superstrut to mcerphson will b...   May 25, 2012 - 7:58 PM
|- - LimitedGT4   QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ May 25, 2012 - 8...   May 25, 2012 - 9:32 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   guide to converting superstrut to mcerphson will b...   May 25, 2012 - 11:19 PM
- - FORGMANN   The gt4 and SS3 racks are longer and subframe rack...   May 30, 2012 - 9:59 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   hey forgmann^^^ that link you posted. Has nothing ...   May 30, 2012 - 5:28 PM
- - FORGMANN   If you look at link it is part number reference fo...   May 30, 2012 - 5:58 PM
|- - BonzaiCelica   QUOTE (FORGMANN @ May 30, 2012 - 5:5...   May 30, 2012 - 7:37 PM
- - Edophus   be interesting to see if you can get those rebuilt...   May 31, 2012 - 8:38 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   Conclusion : You have to be prepared to at least ...   May 31, 2012 - 5:01 PM
- - rdyzz   sorry to bring this topic back up, i've always...   Jul 12, 2012 - 10:24 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   ^^ this reminds of something the sw20 mr2 have. So...   Jul 12, 2012 - 11:11 PM
|- - rdyzz   QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Jul 12, 2012 - 11...   Jul 13, 2012 - 6:37 PM
- - delusionz   I read something a few pages back, i have to say s...   Jul 13, 2012 - 1:55 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   hmm trying to understand you i really am. what do ...   Jul 13, 2012 - 7:11 PM
|- - rdyzz   QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Jul 13, 2012 - 7...   Jul 13, 2012 - 10:24 PM
|- - LimitedGT4   Cut? Weld? Its a straight swap it was for me Chan...   Jul 13, 2012 - 10:46 PM
|- - rdyzz   QUOTE (LimitedGT4 @ Jul 13, 2012 - 10...   Jul 14, 2012 - 7:21 AM
|- - LimitedGT4   QUOTE (rdyzz @ Jul 14, 2012 - 8:21 A...   Jul 14, 2012 - 7:34 AM
- - Rusty   MRP LTD - Manon Racing Products, New Zealand   Jul 13, 2012 - 11:57 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   uhh corolla did also come with superstrut suspensi...   Jul 15, 2012 - 12:18 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   quick somebody tell me what tshuchiya is saying...   Aug 10, 2012 - 1:24 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   QUOTE (Edophus @ May 31, 2012 - 9:38...   Aug 15, 2012 - 1:40 AM
- - Edophus   The bearing on the superstrut lower control arm wh...   Sep 3, 2012 - 10:58 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   Pointless post   Oct 31, 2012 - 10:55 PM
- - LimitedGT4   I can honestly say from experience that it will no...   Nov 1, 2012 - 11:10 AM
|- - BonzaiCelica   QUOTE (LimitedGT4 @ Nov 1, 2012 - 11...   Nov 1, 2012 - 5:48 PM
|- - LimitedGT4   QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Nov 1, 2012 - 6...   May 8, 2013 - 7:05 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   McPherson sway bar will not work with Super strut ...   Nov 5, 2012 - 11:28 PM
- - rdyzz   edophos my cars not to low, but we all know that w...   Jan 15, 2013 - 9:30 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   yo dude check out page 7 of this thread about the ...   Jan 16, 2013 - 2:32 AM
- - Flyin   Which one it is my fortune tellers?   May 8, 2013 - 12:12 AM
- - Special_Edy   Thats the normal suspension, see its got a solid l...   May 8, 2013 - 6:20 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   McPherson front sway bar will not work on Super st...   May 8, 2013 - 12:39 PM
|- - Special_Edy   QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ May 8, 2013 - 12...   May 8, 2013 - 7:52 PM
|- - LimitedGT4   QUOTE (Special_Edy @ May 8, 2013 - 8...   May 8, 2013 - 8:01 PM
|- - Special_Edy   QUOTE (LimitedGT4 @ May 8, 2013 - 9...   May 10, 2013 - 9:53 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   guide to converting superstrut to mcerphson will b...   Jun 7, 2013 - 1:22 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   RE: Superstrut Suspension   Aug 7, 2013 - 1:18 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   guide to converting superstrut to McPherson will b...   Sep 16, 2013 - 10:17 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   omg omg omg omgosh! miracle?!! http:...   Sep 26, 2013 - 10:42 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   since ford/gm uses a superstrut near identical sys...   Nov 21, 2013 - 1:03 AM
- - Trodai   QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Sep 26, 2013 - 10...   Nov 23, 2013 - 5:16 PM
- - loollool   Does anyone know Cusco lower arm bar ver.II fit to...   Dec 18, 2013 - 7:54 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   all 94-99 celica use same front subframe geometry....   Dec 18, 2013 - 10:10 PM
|- - Trodai   QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Dec 18, 2013 - 10...   Dec 19, 2013 - 7:56 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   ok thats what i meant to say. read thru the thread...   Dec 19, 2013 - 7:58 PM
- - Red123   quick question guys. Can I interchange ss3 superst...   Jan 20, 2014 - 3:52 PM
- - nsxtypeR   Ss2, ss3 and gt4 supertruts setups are all the sam...   Jan 21, 2014 - 1:52 PM
|- - Red123   QUOTE (nsxtypeR @ Jan 21, 2014 - 1:5...   Jan 24, 2014 - 5:22 PM
- - Kev6GCTH   In case you will buy used super strut parts. I rec...   Jan 27, 2014 - 11:46 AM
- - rdyzz   Here is an old best motoring video of an ae101 sup...   Jul 12, 2014 - 10:11 PM
|- - BonzaiCelica   QUOTE (rdyzz @ Jul 12, 2014 - 11:11 ...   Jul 13, 2014 - 1:06 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   QUOTE (malpaso @ Feb 13, 2011 - 5:59...   Apr 30, 2015 - 5:58 PM
- - enderswift   Bonzai the superstut top mount has a bearing that ...   Apr 30, 2015 - 6:03 PM
- - mi645   Something i tried to explain to u mr.bonzai. Yet u...   Apr 30, 2015 - 8:26 PM
|- - BonzaiCelica   QUOTE (mi645 @ Apr 30, 2015 - 8:26 P...   Apr 30, 2015 - 9:04 PM
- - Rusty   Yes that's true they're different. Thought...   May 1, 2015 - 2:11 AM
- - carina3sge   Hi there, I need some help regarding the superstru...   Aug 18, 2015 - 7:08 AM
- - nsxtypeR   Yes it can be done. Did it myself a few years ago ...   Aug 29, 2015 - 10:06 AM
- - mi645   Isnt the st202 superstrut suit the carina better? ...   Aug 30, 2015 - 12:23 AM
- - nsxtypeR   Superstrut setups are the same. Springrates are di...   Aug 30, 2015 - 11:27 PM
- - mi645   Incorrect, the st205 ss uses different brake lines...   Sep 1, 2015 - 12:14 PM
- - nsxtypeR   All arms are the same and so is the shockabsorber....   Sep 2, 2015 - 12:02 PM
- - mi645   well in that case, st205 bc coilovers r completely...   Sep 4, 2015 - 8:50 PM
- - nsxtypeR   Rears are different yes due the the awd of the gtf...   Sep 5, 2015 - 11:48 AM
- - mi645   Just buy the ss2 celica super strut bc coilover, r...   Sep 5, 2015 - 9:23 PM
- - linkerx   see my video on the work superstrut suspension: ht...   Dec 22, 2016 - 7:22 AM
- - Wild202   Perhaps I'll write something useful. http://w...   Jan 10, 2017 - 10:36 AM
- - BattlingBiatch   QUOTE (celi94 @ Aug 18, 2005 - 9:18 ...   Feb 27, 2020 - 10:23 AM
- - BonzaiCelica   Computer Animated video of how superstrut geometry...   Nov 26, 2020 - 5:11 PM
- - BonzaiCelica   -Larger wheel bearing are stiffer and help with mo...   Jul 25, 2024 - 3:43 AM
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