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post Apr 29, 2006 - 7:55 PM
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i know about the 3sgte engines u can use to swap but wut other engines can be used to swap...any that arent AWD?
post Apr 29, 2006 - 9:02 PM
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doesnt matter if its all wheel drive. The way the 3sgte mounts in an alltrac is the same way it would mount for front wheel drive. Your best bet for power and potential is a 3sgte.

Other motor swaps that I have seen, that are simple.
4age - best is the 20v silver top
4agze - super charged motor that was in mkI Mr2's
3sge - NA Motors thats in some jdm yotas
3sgte - smile.gif




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post Apr 29, 2006 - 11:32 PM
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i know it mounts the same..i was just tryin to save some hassle in changin my rear axle and addin cv joints to make it a awd...but i really think its worth it...since i met up with an old friend who has done about 12 engine swaps and is going to school for engine mechanic...and other than the 3sgte, whats argueably the 2nd best?
post Apr 30, 2006 - 12:37 AM
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You can swap in the V6's from the Camry's or the V8's from the Lexus'. It all depends on how much money you got to burn on a swap.
post Apr 30, 2006 - 1:29 AM
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it'd be pretty damn cool to see a v8 rwd swap done on a celica. can't imagine the $$ though. prolly easier to buy a mustang and swap a celica's body panels onto it.

it'd also be cool to see one of these:
http://ohe.cat.com/cda/layout?m=85523&x=7

haha, that engine is more than our curb weight
post Apr 30, 2006 - 3:30 AM
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QUOTE(Zimluura @ Apr 30, 2006 - 1:29 AM) [snapback]428090[/snapback]

it'd be pretty damn cool to see a v8 rwd swap done on a celica.


http://media.putfile.com/V8-Celica-GT4
post Apr 30, 2006 - 7:04 AM
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Some one really needs to venture into the V6Celica

The engine weight of the 1MZFE is about the same as the 3SGTE
The engine would be the best for those who want NA power (cheaper than the 3SGE for the US folks)
For more power the addition of a TRD Supercharger would provide it.
Unique and Special, Just being able to say my Celica is a V6 would be really cool.
post Apr 30, 2006 - 8:27 AM
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that celica v8 is tite...haha...and yeah a celica with a v6 would be somethin that i would wanna see...and burneed earlier u said it doesnt matter if its awd, ur not tryin to say that u can put in the 3sgte w/o converting are you?
post Apr 30, 2006 - 10:04 AM
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You use the 3S-GTE with a Front Wheel drive transmission such as the stock GT tranny or you can use an MR2 MR tranny and convert it to FWD, or a Solara tranny, etc. Sell the tranny that comes with your clip/engine set to the All-Trac guys.


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post Apr 30, 2006 - 10:25 AM
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QUOTE(jdg371 @ Apr 30, 2006 - 9:04 AM) [snapback]428112[/snapback]

Some one really needs to venture into the V6Celica

The engine weight of the 1MZFE is about the same as the 3SGTE
The engine would be the best for those who want NA power (cheaper than the 3SGE for the US folks)
For more power the addition of a TRD Supercharger would provide it.
Unique and Special, Just being able to say my Celica is a V6 would be really cool.



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post Apr 30, 2006 - 10:35 AM
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just for an overview

v6 - 1mz-3mz same block that bolts to the E153 tranny which is essentialy the same as the alltrac/gt-four transmission (only fwd instead of awd) that bolts up to our chassis, with the right combo of axles (mr2 inner, st185 outter). Only other thing to get it mounted is the passenger side mount which needs to be modified to fit to the engine. other than that, a faily simple bracket (bolted to the cross member) that will hold up the axle carrier/mount. The rest of the magic is in the wiring and small details such as returness fuel system, exhaust routing, etc...


and you get a ~200hp ~200trq reliable bone stock motor that can get you 30+ mpg and that parts are readily avaible at your local junker for about the same price of your average 3s swap, or if you're smart about it, it can be much cheaper. only drawback is the r&d behind it all.


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post Apr 30, 2006 - 3:45 PM
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QUOTE(jdg371 @ Apr 30, 2006 - 7:04 AM) [snapback]428112[/snapback]

The engine would be the best for those who want NA power (cheaper than the 3SGE for the US folks)


I highly doubt that. rolleyes.gif
post Apr 30, 2006 - 3:55 PM
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QUOTE(BLADDER_MASTER @ Apr 30, 2006 - 5:45 PM) [snapback]428266[/snapback]

QUOTE(jdg371 @ Apr 30, 2006 - 7:04 AM) [snapback]428112[/snapback]

The engine would be the best for those who want NA power (cheaper than the 3SGE for the US folks)


I highly doubt that. rolleyes.gif



having done a massive load of research and part hunting, i highly support that


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post Apr 30, 2006 - 4:56 PM
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okay..besides the 3sgte wut other engines(besides the v6 or v8) have the most power potential for the st?
post Apr 30, 2006 - 5:03 PM
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V6 / 3sgte are gonna be your high horsepower swaps.

FYI: V6 is alot cheaper swap by far, my 1mz was 50$.

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post Apr 30, 2006 - 5:05 PM
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QUOTE(sanchezian16 @ Apr 30, 2006 - 9:56 PM) [snapback]428286[/snapback]

okay..besides the 3sgte wut other engines(besides the v6 or v8) have the most power potential for the st?


QUOTE(burneeed @ Apr 30, 2006 - 2:02 AM) [snapback]428009[/snapback]

Other motor swaps that I have seen, that are simple.
4age - best is the 20v silver top
4agze - super charged motor that was in mkI Mr2's
3sge - NA Motors thats in some jdm yotas
3sgte - smile.gif


if u didnt wunna mess around with the S series engines and/or the undocumented (hopefully that'll change soon) v6 swap...go for 4agze for power. u can always ditch the sc and turbo it later on. a good side to this is u'll be able to use ur motor mounts and "possibly" some other things from the 7afe.

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post Apr 30, 2006 - 5:16 PM
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yeah more and more im leaning toward the 4agze swap...and im glad i can ditch the sc if i want...but i dunno..i have some time to make up my mind
post Apr 30, 2006 - 5:35 PM
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QUOTE(BLADDER_MASTER @ Apr 30, 2006 - 4:45 PM) [snapback]428266[/snapback]

QUOTE(jdg371 @ Apr 30, 2006 - 7:04 AM) [snapback]428112[/snapback]

The engine would be the best for those who want NA power (cheaper than the 3SGE for the US folks)


I highly doubt that. rolleyes.gif


I waqs referring to price of the engine. Not the whole swap, Unless the U.S. wants to mess with the 1st gen 3SGE
post Apr 30, 2006 - 5:49 PM
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okay...say i decide to get the 4agze swap...do i need the whole front clip since it mouts rite in the st...or just the engine trans ecu and wiring?
post Apr 30, 2006 - 6:00 PM
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QUOTE(K-ESD @ Apr 30, 2006 - 3:55 PM) [snapback]428269[/snapback]

QUOTE(BLADDER_MASTER @ Apr 30, 2006 - 5:45 PM) [snapback]428266[/snapback]

QUOTE(jdg371 @ Apr 30, 2006 - 7:04 AM) [snapback]428112[/snapback]

The engine would be the best for those who want NA power (cheaper than the 3SGE for the US folks)


I highly doubt that. rolleyes.gif



having done a massive load of research and part hunting, i highly support that


laugh.gif Just to verify, are you supporting his quote or my quote? If you're supporting his quote, then obviously you've haven't done enough research or the right research.

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