Need Help! Oil Pump Questions!, Motor Blew, Replacing with 5S from another car, Oil pump differences p Options

[luisitol]

Hey guys,

I did a quick search on this but didn't find anything on it. My motor in my 96 Celi GT blew last week and I had already rebuilt a 95 5SFE motor from my Camry, but the Camry isn't running so I am swapping in that motor to my Celica. I knew I would have to switch over some accesories and the wiring and a few brackets but my concern now is that the 95 5SFE motor has the oil pump without the sensor, while the 96 has the oil pump with the sensor.

Now I am faced with this issue and needed to know how serious it is. I honestly have tapped out my funds and don't have the $150 to purchase another pump, not to mention that I would have to crack open the rebuilt motor again. I know we already have an oil pressure sender in the head so I am not sure how important that oil pump sensor truely is. Ultimatley if it is direly necessary I will just have to wait till i do have the funds but I would like to avoid that as I now have to share the other Celi with my gf and I drive 43miles to work each day so its entirely difficult sharing the cars.

Any information that can be provided would be appreciated. Thanks.

[hurley97]

The sensor that mounts to the oil pump housing is the crankshaft position sensor. Without it you cannot use your 96 ECU, it won't know how to make the car run properly and set the check engine light. How did you blow the motor in the Celica? Was it the oil pump that failed? Why not just swap it onto the Camry block?

[luisitol]

Yea once I took the accessories off the motor and pulled the sensor last week I realized it was the crank sensor so I obviously need to use it to retain all factory wiring and ECU.

Motor blew at highway speeds of about 85 with close to no oil in the motor due to a bad front main seal and rear main seal, both found post-teardown.

The blown motor had 145K on it so I would prefer to not swap that over on a motor that has machine work into it, new parts, and my personal labor of assembly. Also looking forward, the Celica will most likely get into some autocrossing in 2009 so a brand new pump or a performance pump would be ideal.

This post has been edited by luisitol: Oct 18, 2008 - 6:01 PM

[presure2]

you will either have to use the old pump, or buy a new one.
the car will not run without the crank sensor.

[luisitol]

you will either have to use the old pump, or buy a new one.
the car will not run without the crank sensor.

yea i realized that last week when i pulled the sensor off. Toga HVOP already on order.

[presure2]

you will either have to use the old pump, or buy a new one.
the car will not run without the crank sensor.

yea i realized that last week when i pulled the sensor off. Toga HVOP already on order.

does the Toga pump have the boss for the sensor in it?
ive never seen a pic of one.