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You might be asking yourself, "Self, how does a person who just sold their Celica make a progress thread for a Celica?" The answer is easy: you go buy another Celica. So I picked up a '96 GT hatchback with a blown engine.
The story: My brother's friend got the car brand new in '97. It's a '96 model though... gotta wait until the end of the year so you can get a good deal on a car! So back in 1997, a slate gray Celica pulls into my driveway. I've never seen one before. My brother is always telling me about how fast the car is. Flash forward a few years and I find myself with a '96 ST sitting in my garage and I find out that my brother lied to me and that these cars aren't fast at all. So here I am, 3 Celicas and a Lexus IS 300 later, and I miss my Celica. I had my hopes up for a swap and a GT4 front end conversion. So what did I do? I called Marc tonight and asked him about his old Celica. I knew he never changed the oil and never even checked it. I knew he blew the engine up. Tranny is still good, body is still good. New brakes and tires. Even has good blades on the windshield wipers. So tonight I call him and ask if he still has the car and he said he'd let it go for $250. I was there in 30 minutes with a check in hand. The car I grew up watching, the Celica that made me love Celicas, is now mine. Forgive the bad pictures, since it was night before I got there to buy the car. Better pictures coming later. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Like I said, the motor is blown. Not a big deal since I am doing a swap anyway. It was lady driven at first, and ladies suck at driving (no offense, ladies.) So she cracked the skirts and had a body shop remove them. No big deal since I am putting TRD skirts on. The car needs paint. No big deal since I was painting it anyway. Needs a new head unit... You get the idea. That's literally the extent of things that are wrong with the car. Everything else is in good shape. Plans for the car... I'm still undecided. It's definitely getting a 3S, whether it's a BEAMS or a 3rd gen -GTE. So... here I am, 6gc. It was a long month without a Celica, but I'm back and I'm here to stay. ____________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________ _ __________ Update: 5S-FE to BEAMS 3S-GE wiring explained with pictures: • EA1 Plug: Pins 17 and 4 need to be bridged. Pin 17 needs power when pin 4 has it. Pin 17 is in the lower left corner, black w/red trace. Pin 4 is the big black wire at the top, center of the plug. Doing this gives the BEAMS spark. Pin 17 coming off of the EA1 plug can be snipped and covered up, left alone. (See picture 1.) • EA1 Plug: Pins 2 and 12 need to be bridged. They are both ground wires, white w/black trace. (See picture 1.) • Clutch start wire: Black w/yellow trace. This one is a bit tricky to explain. There are 3 vertical plugs next to the ECU. On the body side of the plugs, you have a white (19 pin) plug, light gray (13 pin) plug, and dark gray (17 pin) plug. The clutch start wire is pin 18 on the white plug. Move it to pin 17 on the dark gray plug. (Refer to picture 2.) • If using your OEM tach and a tach adapter, you'll need to intercept the tach signal going from the ECU to the gauges. This comes from plug C, wire 27 on the ECU plugs. It's a gray wire. (Refer to picture 3.) • Cruise control wiring: I have a 1998 USDM Celica. In my case, no wiring changes were necessary and my cruise control works perfectly. I believe that this is standard across the board of USDM Celicas, although some pre-98 models may still require changes. Further research from others is necessary. • Airbag light: To get your airbag light to function properly, you run a wire from the EA1 plug to the light gray interior plug (either pin 4 or pin 5, I have read separate posts saying both and I chose not to do this step so I cannot confirm which pin it is.) Picture 1. EA1 plug: At the top, pins 2 and 12 are bridged together. These are grounds. In the middle with the yellow butt connector, you can see pins 17 and 4 bridged together, red w/black trace and plain black wire. At the bottom of the picture, you can see the unused and covered wire that used to be pin 17. ![]() Picture 2. Body plugs next to the ECU. Here you can see the clutch start wire in the bottom left corner, black w/yellow trace. ![]() Picture 3. Plug C, wire 27. This is the tach signal wire that needs to be intercepted for a tach signal adapter.
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richee3 Richee3's Progress thread. Apr 5, 2010 - 10:22 PM
bloodMoney You reuse all your OEM mounts. It all lines up pro... Aug 3, 2011 - 9:17 PM
richee3 Do it, Brian. You won't regret it.
Ricochet, ... Aug 3, 2011 - 9:47 PM
Keiri Once I get a new daily driver and a way around emi... Aug 3, 2011 - 9:59 PM
bloodMoney QUOTE (Keiri @ Aug 3, 2011 - 9:59 PM... Aug 4, 2011 - 2:22 PM
Keiri QUOTE (bloodMoney @ Aug 4, 2011 - 3... Aug 4, 2011 - 2:46 PM
bloodMoney Once all the wiring is done, You could do it in a ... Aug 4, 2011 - 7:05 PM
richee3 Exhaust would be an issue, but it would be cheap t... Aug 4, 2011 - 7:10 PM
richee3 Yeah, I'm revving to 7,300 rpm. Don't be j... Aug 7, 2011 - 11:23 AM
Bimbo I'm glad I kept reading this thread because I ... Aug 7, 2011 - 11:36 AM
stephen_lee my V6 revs to 7,200 but it ddrops the ball that h... Aug 7, 2011 - 11:48 AM
richee3 Bimbo- get a GT. I consistently got 32 mpg out of ... Aug 7, 2011 - 12:58 PM
Bimbo Thanks for the quick reply. And yes I prefer relia... Aug 7, 2011 - 1:05 PM
BonzaiCelica wow interesting how you kept your gauges stock. Yo... Aug 7, 2011 - 2:13 PM
richee3 My god it sounds fantastic. I even kept the 2... Aug 7, 2011 - 2:23 PM
enderswift good job man. should be a ton of fun at the meet Aug 7, 2011 - 3:56 PM
richee3 Yeah it will. I'm glad to see you're about... Aug 7, 2011 - 4:45 PM
ricochet1490 QUOTE (richee3 @ Aug 7, 2011 - 4:45 ... Aug 7, 2011 - 4:52 PM
Bigblock richee3---
That's freakin' Bitchin'... Aug 7, 2011 - 5:49 PM
richee3 Rob! You're coming to the meet! You do... Aug 7, 2011 - 5:51 PM
enderswift Stambo took me for a drive in his 3s swap last mee... Aug 7, 2011 - 5:54 PM
Bigblock We really do hope we can!!!
It's n... Aug 7, 2011 - 5:59 PM
richee3 I'm gonna go ahead and sell the blue Celica if... Aug 14, 2011 - 6:32 PM
richee3 Did some work to the BEAMS today. Replaced the old... Aug 20, 2011 - 2:14 PM
njccmd2002 SARD, Yummy, how much was the damage? Aug 20, 2011 - 5:40 PM
richee3 $315. But I had $25 in my Paypal account... Aug 20, 2011 - 6:21 PM
Batman722 stay in 3rd and don't shift until you hit 90.
... Aug 20, 2011 - 7:44 PM
stephen_lee if u have easy access to a wide band id hook it up... Aug 20, 2011 - 7:49 PM
richee3 QUOTE (Batman722 @ Aug 20, 2011 - 8... Aug 20, 2011 - 9:27 PM
Bigblock Envy reigns supreme!! Good luck!!
... Aug 20, 2011 - 9:36 PM
njccmd2002 spray some carb cleaner to the maf, worth a try... Aug 20, 2011 - 10:22 PM
ricochet1490 QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Aug 20, 2011 - 10... Aug 21, 2011 - 12:33 AM
BonzaiCelica keep at it you'll get it right very soon. I am... Aug 21, 2011 - 3:47 AM
richee3 QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Aug 20, 2011 - 11... Aug 21, 2011 - 10:09 AM
BonzaiCelica naw dude I believe my motor is at 100%. I'll h... Aug 21, 2011 - 5:22 PM
navseal345 The engine you got is from a Rav4 correct? and not... Aug 21, 2011 - 8:53 PM
navseal345 By the way I think I spent near 3 hours reading th... Aug 21, 2011 - 9:26 PM
njccmd2002 man, i guess i was lucky to swap the beams and not... Aug 21, 2011 - 9:33 PM
BonzaiCelica love the fact how you kept the stock rpm gauge. Re... Aug 22, 2011 - 1:50 AM
S8S8 I'd be keen to hear whether or not the Sard in... Aug 22, 2011 - 4:50 AM
richee3 QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Aug 21, 2011 - 5... Aug 22, 2011 - 1:32 PM
stephen_lee You have a cruise box, does it still work after th... Aug 22, 2011 - 12:51 PM
richee3 Today...
It went to a good home. Thanks, Trace ... Sep 1, 2011 - 8:32 PM
ricochet1490 I'm appreciating the shout outs on multiple th... Sep 1, 2011 - 11:23 PM
richee3 Replaced the fuel pump in the BEAMS today, suspect... Sep 3, 2011 - 2:33 PM
ricochet1490 Dan, the problem is electrical/air related I feel,... Sep 3, 2011 - 3:34 PM
BonzaiCelica did you test fuel pressure after you installed the... Sep 3, 2011 - 7:46 PM
richee3 Nope, sure didn't. Lol. Tomorrow I'm going... Sep 3, 2011 - 8:16 PM
stephen_lee try swapping throttle bodies with the other 3sge y... Sep 3, 2011 - 8:26 PM
ricochet1490 ^not a bad idea.
x2 Sep 3, 2011 - 8:57 PM
richee3 TPS on the Redtop came broken in half. Swapped the... Sep 3, 2011 - 9:19 PM
ricochet1490 if it was a weak fpr that was letting too much fue... Sep 3, 2011 - 10:02 PM
ricochet1490 is there any relation to what deluzions says here ... Sep 3, 2011 - 10:26 PM
richee3 QUOTE (ricochet1490 @ Sep 3, 2011 - 11... Sep 5, 2011 - 9:49 AM
BonzaiCelica you'll hear vvt-i smoothly turn over at about ... Sep 4, 2011 - 4:04 AM
richee3 33.9 mpg today. Sep 5, 2011 - 7:38 PM
stephen_lee on my daily it suddenly started running like ****,... Sep 5, 2011 - 7:56 PM
njccmd2002 im thinking there must be a short somewhere, or th... Sep 6, 2011 - 8:45 PM
richee3 Stephen, that's possible, but I've always ... Sep 6, 2011 - 8:47 PM
stephen_lee there are multiple coolant temp sensors. one for t... Sep 7, 2011 - 8:05 AM
4-eyed-freek stephen's right, i woulnd have never thought o... Sep 7, 2011 - 8:40 AM
stephen_lee i had good startup still even though the sensor wa... Sep 7, 2011 - 9:21 AM
richee3 The catch is, the motor runs fine before it's ... Sep 7, 2011 - 10:27 AM
SwissFerdi Guy, just replace the farking coolant temp sensor ... Sep 7, 2011 - 12:40 PM
stephen_lee there are only a few sensors the ecu relies on for... Sep 7, 2011 - 5:52 PM
richee3 QUOTE (stephen_lee @ Sep 7, 2011 - 6... Sep 13, 2011 - 9:28 PM
BonzaiCelica wow man props to all the effort put into your swap... Sep 13, 2011 - 10:26 PM
enderswift This must be really frustrating for you. But you... Sep 13, 2011 - 10:48 PM
richee3 Thanks, guys. The car is more or less running well... Sep 14, 2011 - 9:12 AM
Stambo QUOTE (richee3 @ Sep 14, 2011 - 9:12... Sep 14, 2011 - 11:01 PM
stephen_lee Although unlikely, the cam/crank position sensors ... Sep 14, 2011 - 12:28 PM
richee3 I've already checked the codes. Not throwing o... Sep 14, 2011 - 12:57 PM
Johnnyny nice i log in to this awesome great job dude Sep 14, 2011 - 1:50 PM
stephen_lee crank pos sensor should be near the crank pully. w... Sep 14, 2011 - 2:11 PM
richee3 I'm starting to get closer.... Replaced the pl... Sep 16, 2011 - 8:05 AM
richee3 Fixed my wiring today, problem still exists. Repla... Sep 17, 2011 - 5:31 PM
ricochet1490 I'm by no means a plug expert. But it looks l... Sep 20, 2011 - 9:29 AM
richee3 I thought the same thing too, Trace. But the othe ... Sep 21, 2011 - 12:45 AM
ricochet1490 That all does make sense... I must say. And 3000 -... Sep 21, 2011 - 3:37 AM
richee3 Trace- I think it has too much oil pressure. I... Sep 21, 2011 - 9:12 AM
stephen_lee does unplugging the solenoid cause a cel? if it do... Sep 22, 2011 - 3:25 PM
richee3 Yeah, unplugging the solenoid causes a CEL. So far... Sep 22, 2011 - 3:39 PM
njccmd2002 get a new vvti Sep 23, 2011 - 12:48 AM
stephen_lee swap solenoids between your greytop?
maybe the vv... Sep 23, 2011 - 8:56 AM
richee3 I already swapped sensors between the two motors a... Sep 23, 2011 - 9:41 AM
ricochet1490 you've already changed the vvt-i sensors. Not... Sep 23, 2011 - 11:01 AM
richee3 That's just it. The guy I would have help me i... Sep 23, 2011 - 11:21 AM
bloodMoney I've got a universal adjustable FPR with a gau... Sep 23, 2011 - 11:39 AM
BonzaiCelica all n/a celica's use the same fuel pump. But n... Sep 23, 2011 - 11:44 AM
njccmd2002 imsstarting to think you have a faulty ECU. I me... Sep 23, 2011 - 12:26 PM
richee3 Bonzai- I posted a link earlier about a guy with a... Sep 23, 2011 - 4:30 PM
Batman722 Give me a call. Sep 23, 2011 - 5:13 PM
richee3 Slight update, the 5S power steering belt works fo... Sep 26, 2011 - 6:56 PM
njccmd2002 nice, but u need the hood.. Sep 26, 2011 - 6:57 PM
richee3 Soon, within the next few paychecks Sep 26, 2011 - 6:59 PM
Keiri Dan is making out like a bandit on these deals.
... Sep 26, 2011 - 8:04 PM
richee3 Thanks, Brian! Your continued optimism and ent... Sep 26, 2011 - 8:34 PM
richee3 Well, Chris and I were planning another BEAMS swap... Oct 1, 2011 - 3:03 PM
richee3 RE: Richee3's Progress thread. Oct 11, 2011 - 4:21 PM
stephen_lee excuse me a moment.... Oct 11, 2011 - 4:29 PM
stephen_lee QUOTE (stephen_lee @ Oct 11, 2011 - 4... Oct 11, 2011 - 4:35 PM![]() ![]() |
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