My Auto to Manual Swap IS DONE, finally! Options

[hurley97]

so i have the major parts for the auto to manual swap but now i need help
i would love to do it myself and everything...i just dont have the experience, or man power for that matter

ive gotten the ever popular "its not worth it, just buy a new car" which i choose to ignore, the "well i could do it for $2,000" which is way over my budget, and the wannabe mechanic doing work out of his garage who says "id love to try, can i give you an estimate" then never answers the phone again

id trust a 6gc-er over anyone else anyway so i figured id at least ask before looking elsewhere any more
i will pay, just let me know what you think is fair and i'll tell you if i can pay it

please help
thanks

This post has been edited by hurley97: Aug 9, 2006 - 9:03 AM

[madmods]

bring down here, I'll do it

[devilsden97]

I'm in, i don't know tons...but im an extra set of hands and more then willing to learn. I also grill a mean hamburger....and hotdog.....

maybe a auto-manual swap cook out? idk lol

But again, I'm in.

[amysmojo]

ill help you! just let me put on some lip stick & a skirt & heels & ill be ready to work on your car Lol

[hurley97]

ill help you! just let me put on some lip stick & a skirt & heels & ill be ready to work on your car Lol

lol...awesome, i'll do the same

bring down here, I'll do it

where are you? how much you want? blah blah blah ? lol

thanks

[94GT]

bring down here, I'll do it

Aren't you living in the south west? She's in Jersey.

[hurley97]

anyone closer?

im around jersey city, hoboken, north bergen, edgewater, weehawken, union city, fort lee, edgewater, englewood all the time...lol im everywhere!

[TheStreetzKing]

any chance i can stop by?? im doing this to, and have everything so its gonna be soon and i wanna see how this is going down

[hurley97]

any chance i can stop by?? im doing this to, and have everything so its gonna be soon and i wanna see how this is going down

you doing it yourself? maybe you, me, miguel and someone whos done it can do both our cars in one shot
like a two for one deal lol

[OrbitalGT95]

this might be a hike for ya, but DG PERFORMANCE opened his own shop in PITT PA, he seriously knows the celica better then the back of his hand. I dont think he would charge to much, and i know he would have it done in no time, Him and his buddy just did a auto to standard in an s14 so he knows what he is doing, if you would like to contact him u can reach him, pm me and i'll send you his phone number.

[devilsden97]

any chance i can stop by?? im doing this to, and have everything so its gonna be soon and i wanna see how this is going down

you doing it yourself? maybe you, me, miguel and someone whos done it can do both our cars in one shot
like a two for one deal lol

lol u have alot of faith there missy lol

[playr158]

depending on what date i might beable to assist in this mockery of a job!

[hurley97]

depending on what date i might beable to assist in this mockery of a job!

mockery?!?! lol
i got all summer ...just let me know so i can take off work

[devilsden97]

let me know!

[97lestyousay]

Print this out if you haven't already. Take lots of pics.

Auto to Manual

This post has been edited by 97lestyousay: May 6, 2006 - 9:32 PM

[TheStreetzKing]

haha nah im doing mine with someone else but i wanna be able to bring some knowledge back, and im still waiting for my bracket before i can swap

[Silver94CelicaOw...]

I think it would be great if we could find access to a lift. In that case we could get a few of us guys on this thing, and get it done a little easier....i know I'd be down.

The more research prior to the operation, the smoother it'll go though.

[devilsden97]

I think it would be great if we could find access to a lift. In that case we could get a few of us guys on this thing, and get it done a little easier....i know I'd be down.

The more research prior to the operation, the smoother it'll go though.

right u find us access to a lift...lol jack stands, 3 feet, no one kick it, or were dead. ok?

[LeonStryfe]

Wow, I'm amaze how everyone are so quick to help. I would too, but I'm just a noob with the celica atm >.>

[devilsden97]

Wow, I'm amaze how everyone are so quick to help. I would too, but I'm just a noob with the celica atm >.>

come anyway, thats how u learn. And on top of it, we'll all just have a blast, talking and messing around. 6gc.net is kinda like a type of extended family in a way. lol

[hurley97]

Wow, I'm amaze how everyone are so quick to help. I would too, but I'm just a noob with the celica atm >.>

Wow, I'm amaze how everyone are so quick to help. I would too, but I'm just a noob with the celica atm >.>

come anyway, thats how u learn. And on top of it, we'll all just have a blast, talking and messing around. 6gc.net is kinda like a type of extended family in a way. lol

lol... i was pleasantly surprised too!
so yeah come anyway ...yay for learning on my car! hopefully dan at least knows what hes doing and can come up and help

and i have a friend whos always talking about the garage his dad owns...i'll ask what going on with that and if we can use it.

[hurley97]

nope...his dad rents it out so he can't actually use it

...keep looking...

[devilsden97]

booo hissss. lol


I need to purchase some jack stands for work on my car, so ill just toss them in back, and bring them with me.

AGAIN dont kick the stands!

[playr158]

i got my car on 4 jackstands...but it really only sits on three...celica chassis rules on stiffness...

[brianforster]

dan can probably do it himself, just dont let him touch any hoses going to a turbo and he knows what hes doing

[hurley97]

i still have to find a garage to use...

i have a 2 car garage but it only fits one car and you have to park all slanted otherwise you cant open the car door...and i dont even know what any of it is, if it was up to me id just push it all down the driveway and leave it for the garbage people
my dad parks in there, i park in the yard b/c im too lazy to clean it...

i actually wasnt even going to tell the family...i figured my dad would just realize it when he went to move my car for some reason and sees a 5spd lol my family asks too many questions so i like to just avoid them whenever possible haha

but i guess, if it must come to that, i'll tell them and clean it out...boo

[lagos]

dan can probably do it himself, just dont let him touch any hoses going to a turbo and he knows what hes doing

[devilsden97]

i still have to find a garage to use...

i have a 2 car garage but it only fits one car and you have to park all slanted otherwise you cant open the car door...and i dont even know what any of it is, if it was up to me id just push it all down the driveway and leave it for the garbage people
my dad parks in there, i park in the yard b/c im too lazy to clean it...

i actually wasnt even going to tell the family...i figured my dad would just realize it when he went to move my car for some reason and sees a 5spd lol my family asks too many questions so i like to just avoid them whenever possible haha

but i guess, if it must come to that, i'll tell them and clean it out...boo

how about in your driveway? interesting concept eh? its out of the road, and a large area so theres space to work.

[playr158]

driveway works it shouldn't take forever to do

[hurley97]

well smartass [miguel] ...my driveway is just long and narrow, i dont even think its allowed to be used as a driveway by code...my dads mirror is held on by duct tape b/c he keeps hitting **** on the way up lol

and theres about six kids who love to touch my car [those bastards] that use my backyard to play in (2 from my house and the neighbor has 4 grandkids)
but if it wont take that long then im sure it'll be fine

[celicurr]

depending on when it is, I'd make a trip down there to help out in whatever way I can and just hang out... I'll even bring some good beer... you know, Canadian beer lol

[devilsden97]

well smartass [miguel] ...my driveway is just long and narrow, i dont even think its allowed to be used as a driveway by code...my dads mirror is held on by duct tape b/c he keeps hitting **** on the way up lol

and theres about six kids who love to touch my car [those bastards] that use my backyard to play in (2 from my house and the neighbor has 4 grandkids)
but if it wont take that long then im sure it'll be fine

not smart ass...just i look outside the box or garage.

depending on when it is, I'd make a trip down there to help out in whatever way I can and just hang out... I'll even bring some good beer... you know, Canadian beer lol

lol canadian beer...keep it away from me...im not good with my alcohol...i drink to much and get totally wasted and pass out...then after that, the fun starts lol.

[LeonStryfe]

I lived in NYC all my life this may sound lame and out of the topic but where is Poughkeepsie NY o.O

[devilsden97]

about 2 hours north of nyc.

Take the saw mill, to the taconic, ride the taconic for about an hour and a half, and your in good old poughkeepsie.

[hurley97]

depending on when it is, I'd make a trip down there to help out in whatever way I can and just hang out... I'll even bring some good beer... you know, Canadian beer lol

i dont think i have enough parking for this lol...everyones welcome to come hang but you may have to find street parking

one person can park in the yard maybe two but i gotta clear it with my neigbor and i can kick my dad out of the garage and one person can park there
[thats for those of you who dare try the narrow driveway, i know the celica fits but im not sure about your jetta dan...it looks small enough but i cant promise anything ]
if not one or two can park in the church lot down the street

[devilsden97]

i dont think i have enough parking for this lol...everyones welcome to come hang but you may have to find street parking

one person can park in the yard maybe two but i gotta clear it with my neigbor and i can kick my dad out of the garage and one person can park there
[thats for those of you who dare try the narrow driveway, i know the celica fits but im not sure about your jetta dan...it looks small enough but i cant promise anything ]
if not one or two can park in the church lot down the street

Ive seen the drive way, i could do it at 60mph....shes just being all dramatic, its crazy wide.

This post has been edited by devilsden97: May 12, 2006 - 11:39 PM

[hurley97]

Ive seen the drive way, i could do it at 60mph....shes just being all dramatic, its crazy wide.

you should revise that statement now after you've ACTUALLY gone up it


when i get all the pieces i'll let you guys know

[devilsden97]

i wont change my statment, but omg its crazy narrow idk how u do it every day.

[hurley97]

i wont change my statment, but omg its crazy narrow idk how u do it every day.

cause im good like that

[zachattack15]

To bad your not down south. I have access to a garage with three lifts. Plus enough tools to make you go crazy. Good luck on the swap though.

[Mynzeyes]

has anyone responded yet that actually can help, and knows what they are doing? heh.

i swapped my car to a 5speed a while back, and have had to take the tranny off a couple times since. (clutch, mount goes bad, etc). too bad i'm all the way in TN. . I'm always down to pull a tranny...

if you know what your doing, you can have it done in well less than a day of work.

-John-

[hurley97]

has anyone responded yet that actually can help, and knows what they are doing? heh.

i swapped my car to a 5speed a while back, and have had to take the tranny off a couple times since. (clutch, mount goes bad, etc). too bad i'm all the way in TN. . I'm always down to pull a tranny...

if you know what your doing, you can have it done in well less than a day of work.

-John-

well im counting on dan cause he said he might be able to come up depending on when

so when i get all the parts i'll be bothering him to come up and help me [and anyone else who wants to come by can]

[hurley97]

so im getting some more stuff from a salvage by miguel for 200:
clutch pedal assembly
master cylinder
clutch line
brake pedal

almost there, still need:
engine mount (going to buy new)
shifter (going to buy TRD)
and shift boot (not worried about that one)

if im missing anything else please let me know

heres what i already have for reference:
Manual tranny
Manual ECU
Flywheel
Clutch
the 6 bolts
Shifter cables
Clutch slave cylinder (attached to the tranny)
Clutch line (however much of it was attached to the tranny, getting the one from the salvage just to be sure)

[Defgeph]

You might need Manual axles. With the 7afe I'm not sure if they are the same or not. If you car has ABS, you'll need ABS axles to have it work properly

[hurley97]

You might need Manual axles. With the 7afe I'm not sure if they are the same or not. If you car has ABS, you'll need ABS axles to have it work properly

i do not have ABS...sadly
but if anyone knows about the axle situation PLEASE let me know asap. thanks!

This post has been edited by hurley97: Jun 5, 2006 - 12:31 PM

[romeovaj]

well when I bought my 5sfe 94 gt it was already switch to manual. it was an atx from the start. so I was relief. but the shifter housing is not original. I plan on looking at Toyota for the trd one. wish I could come down but its sorta far. goodluck!

[hurley97]

so mac says i should get all new mounts instead of just the one thats needed. theres like 4 i believe. is this really necessary? i didnt want to spend that much if it wasnt necessary but if a few people think its a good idea then i will. and if i dont have to buy all the mounts i'll have enough for the trd shifter

just mount(s) and shifter left
[i'll address the axle situation when someone knows for sure but for now im assuming it isnt necessary]

[devilsden97]

if u need the axels i can get u them....lol stupid salvage yard is going to make a killing off you lol

[hurley97]

if u need the axels i can get u them....lol stupid salvage yard is going to make a killing off you lol

call the guy and ask how much he wants
so incase we need them we know where to get them and my car isnt sitting in pieces for too long. i dont wanna buy them if i dont need to cause i cant really return them.

[devilsden97]

ill call him later on when your closer to doing the swap, or when you have a deffinate answer on if u need them.

[playr158]

i might be able to get you a set of axels for 50$ a piece..remanufactured

[hurley97]

i might be able to get you a set of axels for 50$ a piece..remanufactured

if you think theres over a 50% chance id need them..and for $50/ea i'll get them
you can bring them with you when you come to help me

[hurley97]

im getting three of the four motor mounts from clipsetuner
and i'll be ordering my TRD shifter later today

[hurley97]

i got my TRD shifter yesterday...it makes me happy lol

ive already sent the money order for the mounts so im just waiting on getting them...dustin[clipsetuner] said sometime within the next two weeks
then i'll polyfill them and find out when people are available to come help me do this...finally!

[hurley97]

so heres what i have:

the tranny itself (w/ slave cylinder attached)

^thats an old pic, i'll take a new one later

shifter cables


ECU


clutch, flywheel, bolts


^maybe get a new clutch

TRD shifter


master cylinder (w clutch line), pedals, bolts


getting mounts from Dustin (Batman722)

please tell me what else i need

[Manny, i'll bring the clutch with me when i come see you ]

[Batman722]

make sure you have the pressure plate resurfaced at a machine shop, and you will need a new clutch.

[presure2]

steff, i wouldnt use that clutch.
i'd just have the flywheel resurfaced.
if you cant find someone local to do it, just bring it up with you, and i can have it done up here for like ~30$

[hurley97]

so if i go to advance auto parts and get a new clutch kit is that everything id need? (for that anyway)

heres what it says comes with it: Clutch Disc, Cover Assembly, Release Bearing & Alignment Tool

edit: cause i know there was something(s) i didnt have for the clutch that i needed, like the alighnment tool. cant remember if there was anything else

This post has been edited by hurley97: Jul 9, 2006 - 9:38 AM

[hurley97]

so this ended up costing me wayy too much money in the end but hopefully it will all be worth it, heres the final cost breakdown:

Manual transmission
Manual ECU
Flywheel/ Clutch/ bolts
Shifter cables
Clutch slave cylinder (attached to tranny)
Clutch lines (attached to tranny)
$400

Clutch pedal assembly
Clutch master cylinder
Brake pedal
$200

All 4 motor mounts
Resurface flywheel
New clutch
$140

TRD shifter assembly
$187.25

coming out to a grand total of $927.25
had i went with the stock shifter it would have only come out to about 800 but hopefully it will be well worth the extra cash...hopefully


got it all. ready to go. ive been waiting a long time to get this far, hopefully it will be done this weekend ::cross fingers::

...im incredibly excited

[Akimbo]

hooooly ****...thats a lot. i did it on a gt with like a 1/3rd of that cost.

it IS WORTH IT though. Trust me;)

One thing. If that's your list, you don't have everything. Sometimes when you buy parts, lots of clips and things are missing, so you have to be sure. I had to get a lot of springs and clips and things like that when I did mine straight from Toyota. It's best to buy a clutch and pressure plate combo. I'm sure Exedy makes an OEM replacement. But I see you've already got a lot of parts. Best of luck.

[XS4lv1Truch0x]

wow, good luck wiht ur swap.

i soon will be doing a tranny swap, in like around a year, hopefully if i geta good job i can get that 3sgte too.

[ExSane]

Damn girl, good luck to you. It will be worth it at the end!!!

[hurley97]

ITS DONE! FINALLY!

thanks to JDM guy, yo


i'll put up what few pics i have later

[presure2]

JDM guy, yo!
haha
a few notes for future refrence.
be sure to get the rubber line that goes between the clutch master hardline, and the slave cylinder hardline. if you have to order it from toyota, they wont have any in-stock, and you'll be lucky if they have one in the country. ( they didnt when we did this.)
if you can get one thats in decent shape from a junkyard, do it.
shifter cable c-clips.
if your not planning major power upgrades, buy an OEM clutch.
you'll pay more, but the fit, feel, and life of the OEM parts makes it worth it.
1 1/4" holesaw for the clutch master, and a 5/16th drill bit i think it was.

[hurley97]

a few pictures. i have some more detailed ones...maybe later

V this one is my personal favorite


that gigantic thing on the bottom right is the auto tranny


the shift boot is duct taped to the shifter surround, the auto shifter surround doesnt have the clips needed

[presure2]

where is my HEAD???!?!?!?

[95celgt]

where did you get the shift boot?, it looks nice and oem-ish.

[lagos]

nice job!

[hurley97]

where did you get the shift boot?, it looks nice and oem-ish.

lol. it is. brand new from Toyota World, $25

[DomGT]

Congrats! I'm jealous.

[Silver94CelicaOw...]

Nice work gentlemen, looks good! Glad to see you have your 5spd now Stef.

[soulshadow]

U really didn't have to get a new ECU for the Manual. You could just re-wire the auto ecu to fool it and make it work. But its safe to have one just in case.

[Akimbo]

you can no dobut get the metal ring that goes around the shift boot anywhere...probably a junk yard. but congrats, good to see another swapper in our midst.

[hurley97]

thanks guys! im loving it more and more

U really didn't have to get a new ECU for the Manual. You could just re-wire the auto ecu to fool it and make it work. But its safe to have one just in case.

Dan (Playr158) gave me the ECU with the tranny. Its a 96 ECU with a 94/95 (we assume) tranny on a 97 Celica. Works perfectly - no CEL, starts every time, no problems whatsoever...so far

the part numbers on the 96 and 97 ECU's are different. its been said the 96 ECU may put out different codes than the 97 but I have no idea if there is any truth to that statement. but for the one day that I've had it, it works fine. you would never be able to tell it was ever anything but a manual

This post has been edited by hurley97: Aug 9, 2006 - 12:46 PM

[laff09]

Looks nice and clean

[Rjb23]

That is probably my tranny if you got it from playr. Its from a 95 st and had about 85k miles on it. If you got the clutch/flywheel/pressure plate from him you could have used it, it was brand new and only had about 2k miles on it. BTW the flywheel is from a corolla 7a.

[hurley97]

Alright, I didn't take too many pictures but heres how it went...

I made the three hour drive Fri night with all the parts that weren't already at Manny's moms. Got pulled over in RI for doing over twice the speed limit/ reckless driving (I didnt know the lanes merged), cop was suspicious of the tranny (which was under a tarp in my passenger footwell), ended up getting an $85 ticket for 5 over the limit which became the least of my worries

Anyway...

Day 1 (Sat Aug 5)
put the car in the garage

took out the little stuff

planned the attack

put in the pedals





Problem #1: We find out the rubber clutch line thats attached to the master cylinder metal line is cut and is kind of necessary to completing the swap.


Solution: Take the line off Dustin's ST if worse comes to worse. He's been driving the GT lately anyway

then Manny tried to get the rear mount and cross member out and got pissed so when Dustin got back from work and he tried and got it out.


Day 2 (Sun Aug 6)
Me and Dustin stopped at Autozone to pick up some synchromesh and other things on the way to Mannys. Manny has the auto tranny out by the time we got there around 2pm.


The resurfaced flywheel and new clutch go on


Problem #2: Go to put the new throwout bearing onto the fork and find out it doesn't fit. We decide not to use the old throwout bearing because we have no idea how old it is. It was Sun after 5pm and nowhere that was even open was going to have it in stock.

Solution: No other choice but to order it from the Toyota dealer the next morning.

Manny is super pissed. He gets the metal clutch line from the master cylinder in place and is done for the day.

Dustin got the shifter cables and ECU in then put all of the interior back together nicely. Brought some things home to work out some wiring issues, like the reverse lights and neutral start switch.


(^the pink stuff is just grease, it's still there just hidden)

When there's nothing else that can be done, work comes to a stop for the day.


Day 3 (Mon Aug 7)
Didn't even see the car the whole day.
Went to the Toyota Dealer in the AM to order the parts. The throwout bearing was in stock in Boston and would be there next day. The ST rubber clutch line was a different story, there was not a single one at any dealer in the country. Dustin ordered the GT line, of which there is only one and will take a week to get. Got a shifter cable clip as well (should have gotten a few more). Came out to $70

Thats about all that could be done for the day.


Day 4 (Tue Aug 8)
Dustin and Jenn had to work. I took Dustin's ST and picked up the parts from the dealer then picked up Manny and went to my car.

Messed around preping the tranny for a while cause Manny was going to wait and have someone help him lift the tranny into place. F- that plan, I guess Manny got bored, bench pressed the tranny in place by himself cause Manny is the freakin MAN lol

Only thing left was to hook up things and put stuff back together. Jenn got back from work and we left to get food. When we got back Manny had hooked up the essential things and tried to start the car but it wouldn't even turn over and the check engine light was on. Called up Dustin to make sure of the next step. Wired the two black wires together (from the harness in the engine bay) and the car started right up with no problem. Wired in Dustin's makeshift reverse light switch. Stole the rubber clutch line out of Dustin's ST, made sure everything worked then tightened everything up and put it all back together.

I drove it down the driveway and there were some noises. Manny took it for a drive to make sure the clutch was alright, said it drove nice and seemed fine otherwise.
Brought it back to the house, I duct taped the shift boot to the shifter surround trim since the auto trim doesn't have the clips to hold it in place




So I made the 3-4 hour drive back home and hit a bit of traffic but still think I did pretty well if I do say so myself
As of today it doesn't make any weird noises anymore and I think I'm getting better at driving it as well as enjoying driving more and more

thanks JDM guy ... too bad Jeff couldn't make it, Jenn and Joey had to take his place as the J ... you guys are the best!

[cheeco]

congrats on the conversion! sound like you guys had fun doing it, the way it should be

[alltracman78]

Day 3 (Mon Aug 7)
Didn't even see the car the whole day.
Went to the Toyota Dealer in the AM to order the parts. The throwout bearing was in stock in Boston and would be there next day. The ST rubber clutch line was a different story, there was not a single one at any dealer in the country. Dustin ordered the GT line, of which there is only one and will take a week to get. Got a shifter cable clip as well (should have gotten a few more). Came out to $70

Why didn't Manny call me?
What a meathead.

I'll try to find out on the codes.
I'm guessing the difference in ecu p#s is just an updated ecu.

[hurley97]

Why didn't Manny call me?
What a meathead.

I'll try to find out on the codes.
I'm guessing the difference in ecu p#s is just an updated ecu.

I'm just wondering if it will affect anything when I have to get the car inspected. Will it give them different info? Will it tell them its a 96 while my registration says 97, maybe they'd have a problem with that? Should I get Jeff's 97 ECU just to be sure or do you think I'll be perfectly fine? So far it's been starting/running fine... no problems, no check engine light.

[Batman722]

Don't tell them anything, there shouldn't be any problems at all.

if they bring anything up to you, just tell them you put a new ECU in because yours crapped out

[presure2]

steff, it shouldnt effect anything, theyre both OBDII ecus.

[hurley97]

I'm not telling. Hopefully the ECU doesnt say anything either and we shouldn't have a problem I don't know what info comes up when they plug in the OBDII

I've just always been nervous when I get my car inspected since they failed me the first time for something as stupid as a hole in the headlight.

I'm not worried about the way it runs. I love my franken-car the way it is

This post has been edited by hurley97: Aug 11, 2006 - 9:48 AM

[celiracer]

congrats on the swap. And hope you like the feeling of shifting. Its very fun lol. But the OBDII should be ok.

[Chanh55]

Grats on the swap. All those pics...reminds me of when I did my manual conversion... what a PITA. The big hole for the master cylinder.... how did you manage to get such a clean hole? I had to drill a bunch of holes and then hammer it out.

[hurley97]

Grats on the swap. All those pics...reminds me of when I did my manual conversion... what a PITA. The big hole for the master cylinder.... how did you manage to get such a clean hole? I had to drill a bunch of holes and then hammer it out.

thanks!

Manny + 1-1/4" Holesaw + Dremel


This post has been edited by hurley97: Aug 11, 2006 - 11:16 AM

[ILuvMyCelica95]

congrats Steff

[laff09]

Manny + 1-1/4" Holesaw + Dremel

1 1/2" holesaw bits are fuuuunn, you know, except when it catches and either slaps you across the face with the cord or tries to break your wrist

[Mynzeyes]

wheeeee 5speeds. but 4 days, and 1000 bucks? shheeeeeeeeesh... way too long, and way too much. but kudos steff.

[miro1975]

Great job. I did the same project. I love it. I'v got just GT shifter cabels, but they work just fine. Big difference between auto and stick. So much fun, faster and ju can do burn out if you want...( I don't do that)
Do you guys know what is a diff in pouds between auto tranny and 5 speed. I think it's pretty big.

[Dr_Tweak]

Great job. I did the same project. I love it. I'v got just GT shifter cabels, but they work just fine. Big difference between auto and stick. So much fun, faster and ju can do burn out if you want...( I don't do that)
Do you guys know what is a diff in pouds between auto tranny and 5 speed. I think it's pretty big.

I think around 75 lbs or so.

-Doc

[presure2]

yea, the auto tranny is alot heavier compared to the manual.
john, it only took 4 days because of missing and wrong parts.
in reality, i could have done the swap in a full days work.
we broke off early on saturday cause i had already worked in the AM, so we worked a couple hrs, and called it a day so i could eat.
sunday, there really wasnt much to do other than install the clutch line, once we knew the TOB wasnt right.
monday was a dead day, we didnt touch the car.
once we got the parts on tuesday late morning, the car was back up and running in a matter of a couple hrs.
so, total time was prolly 6-8 hrs..by far no records were broken, but that wasnt the goal.
enjoying the car steff?

[hurley97]

that auto tranny is massive. I have all this room in my engine bay now...hmmm....what to do with it

and yes, I'm enjoying the car very much! It was well worth the money and time I got to spend with you guys

[Mynzeyes]

oh i realize there wasn't a speed record in pursuit. just seems like a terribly long time. i completely understand though, as 10min jobs have turned into day long jobs for me too. don't think i meant it like that. and the money, just don't spend 1k on the rear disc conversion steff. .

[alltracman78]

I'm just wondering if it will affect anything when I have to get the car inspected. Will it give them different info? Will it tell them its a 96 while my registration says 97, maybe they'd have a problem with that? Should I get Jeff's 97 ECU just to be sure or do you think I'll be perfectly fine? So far it's been starting/running fine... no problems, no check engine light.

Dont' worry too much about it.
There are basically 2 reasons for the different part #.
Either Toyota decided after production to change some of the programming inside, and the 97 is one of these newer ones, or Toyota decided during production [for the 97 model] to change it.

I will TRY to remember [and get a chance] to check for any TSBs on it at work tomorrow.

[alltracman78]

A day late.
Sorry.

But anyways, there are no TSBs on it.
The only other thing I can do right now is check the p#s and see if the 96 one is revised in later models.
If you still car, get me the p#.

Or not.

[rayneezy23]

manual is so much fun to drive how much did you spend to get it done/, my friend wants to convert his galant to a manual transmission good work though

[brianforster]

i bet you felt like a kid in a candy store with so many skilled people helping you out haha.. id feel like a celebrity if those guys worked on my car

This post has been edited by brianforster: Aug 20, 2006 - 11:21 PM

[hurley97]

manual is so much fun to drive how much did you spend to get it done/, my friend wants to convert his galant to a manual transmission good work though

in the end it cost about $1k. I bought parts here and there so it didnt seem like that much money. it was well worth it to me cause I really like my car and intend to keep it for as long as possible.

...it's so much more fun to drive and the gas mileage is soooo much better

[hurley97]

A day late.
Sorry.

But anyways, there are no TSBs on it.
The only other thing I can do right now is check the p#s and see if the 96 one is revised in later models.
If you still car, get me the p#.

Or not.

thanks Jeremy.
the one thats in my car now is p# 89661-2D450
the 97 A/T ECU (from the EPC) is p# 89661-2D870
you can check if you have time/remember... no rush, everything works

This post has been edited by hurley97: Aug 21, 2006 - 3:55 PM