New Addition to Our Family, Painted page 7!!! |
New Addition to Our Family, Painted page 7!!! |
Oct 12, 2009 - 12:13 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 3, '04 From Portsmouth, RI Currently Offline Reputation: 33 (100%) |
So me and Dustin (Batman722) decided to postpone the wedding another year and buy another 6th gen project instead...
That and the 99 Solara I've been using as a winter car is going to my sister in a few weeks so we needed to have one available to each of us as a 'winter beater'. We have my green 97 ST turbo, Dustin's blue 95 GT ST205 swapped, his silver 95 ST And let me introduce the new addition to our Celica family, 1994 Celica GT, 5spd, black interior, sunroof, Florida car without New England rust. Very bad rod knock and a very bad radiator meant we had to have it towed home where it stayed until it was again towed to Manny, Jenn and Randi's garage. We decided to swap in a Redtop 3S-GE Beams We cleaned it up, timing belt, waterpump, tensioner, prepped to go in ^inside the intake manifold, taken through the throttle body And as of tonight, it is in the car and running, And Manny fabricated the whole exhaust, from the b-pipe all the way back. I do not have good pics of it, someone else will have to insert them. We should be able to take some better pics tomorrow in the daylight. So far, very fun This post has been edited by hurley97: Jul 1, 2010 - 4:49 PM -------------------- |
Oct 12, 2009 - 12:26 AM |
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Nice work as always, some amazing sh!t happening in that garage.
Looks like fun -------------------- JDM guy made me do it.
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Oct 12, 2009 - 12:26 AM |
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Moderator Joined Nov 5, '07 From New Zealand Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
quickest swap ever!
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Oct 12, 2009 - 12:32 AM |
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and more pics
Day 1 starting out in the garage pull the beat down 5s and put it where it belongs remove ABS, install non abs lines/master paint engine bay black better pic day 2 get the beams in the bay I spy a tan line lightweight FW then OEM Beams disk, st185 pp, and s54 tob and a wicked cool SS braided clutch line day 3 button things up and have Manny make an incredible exhaust. and the exhaust - just unbelievable - I'm speechless every time I look at it. end of day 3, drive home once we cranked it over a few times to get some fuel in it, it started just fine. It idles a bit high right now (about 1100) so me and Stef will diagnose it tomorrow. and driving impressions...it's quick and pulls great all the way to redline more pics tomorrow in the daylight. This post has been edited by Batman722: Oct 12, 2009 - 12:34 AM -------------------- |
Oct 12, 2009 - 12:36 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 3, '04 From Portsmouth, RI Currently Offline Reputation: 33 (100%) |
quickest swap ever! haha... Actually, Motor arrived Aug 28th After that we figured it was probably time to get serious about finding a car Bought the car Sept 10th Waited for parts from the UK... did some thing to the car in the meantime Started the swap Fri afternoon Oct 9th Drove it home Sun Oct 11th -------------------- |
Oct 12, 2009 - 1:41 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 15, '07 From Tennessee Currently Offline Reputation: 52 (100%) |
wow amazing, what kind of red is that, the one on the valve cover and intake, is that engine enamel or what?
Send me a custom exhaust like that, i need one, lol.... -------------------- Learned a lot in 10 years... I hardly log in anymore, last login Today Sept 6 2019, and I was forced just to clarify a post. LOL
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Oct 12, 2009 - 1:54 AM |
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it's powdercoated red from the factory...
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Oct 12, 2009 - 2:42 AM |
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good stuff
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Oct 12, 2009 - 5:29 AM |
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it's powdercoated red from the factory... actually, i repainted the valve cover cover, and top of the intake manifold for them. more pics of the header back exhaust i made for them. Full 304 stainless, 2.5" from the header back, over axle. first the inside of the 2 into 1 section of the factory header, after i cut off the small pipe and fit the 2.5" adding the flex pipe bpipe finished center section over axle and muffler a few installed pics what you see from the back -------------------- Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)
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Oct 12, 2009 - 6:01 AM |
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Awesome Thread. Exhaust looks great. Wish I had got the bpipe with mine.
Im curious how you cleaned the inside of the intake manifold so clean. Did you just take it off and let brake clean sit in there for a while? Do tell!! Thanks. |
Oct 12, 2009 - 6:14 AM |
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I always liked topics like this . Amazing work...
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Oct 12, 2009 - 9:48 AM |
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im so amazed to that exhaust setup, just wow,
Yeah, i already knew it was painted cause dustin told me. I want mine in. -------------------- Learned a lot in 10 years... I hardly log in anymore, last login Today Sept 6 2019, and I was forced just to clarify a post. LOL
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Oct 12, 2009 - 11:20 AM |
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Wow, that was some crazy progress... Manny, you do good exhaust fabrication! I might have to drive up there and pay you to do mine when I get ready to swap! Lol. Is the body going to stay like that since it's a winter beater or will you guys clean it up?
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Oct 12, 2009 - 1:42 PM |
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Oct 12, 2009 - 2:07 PM |
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wow amazing, what kind of red is that, the one on the valve cover and intake, is that engine enamel or what? Send me a custom exhaust like that, i need one, lol.... Manny sprayed it the Toyota 3L2 red, I believe he used automotive paint from work. Awesome Thread. Exhaust looks great. Wish I had got the bpipe with mine. Im curious how you cleaned the inside of the intake manifold so clean. Did you just take it off and let brake clean sit in there for a while? Do tell!! Thanks. It came like that. Wow, that was some crazy progress... Manny, you do good exhaust fabrication! I might have to drive up there and pay you to do mine when I get ready to swap! Lol. Is the body going to stay like that since it's a winter beater or will you guys clean it up? Body will stay like that for this winter, probable do some body work and paint job next year. -------------------- |
Oct 12, 2009 - 2:13 PM |
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My god...you people are godly.
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Oct 12, 2009 - 2:51 PM |
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quickest swap ever! haha... Actually, Motor arrived Aug 28th After that we figured it was probably time to get serious about finding a car Bought the car Sept 10th Waited for parts from the UK... did some thing to the car in the meantime Started the swap Fri afternoon Oct 9th Drove it home Sun Oct 11th oh true, last thread I remembered was, you guys just buying the celica (I dont think I heard about the 3s swap though) on another note you've pretty much had all the celica motors: (7afe +T, 5sfe + T ,3sgte, now a 3sge beams) -------------------- |
Oct 12, 2009 - 6:06 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 22, '07 From Buckinghamshire, UK Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
awesome.
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Oct 12, 2009 - 7:01 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 3, '04 From Portsmouth, RI Currently Offline Reputation: 33 (100%) |
It was idling a little high the first day, as Dustin mentioned, but today it was perfectly fine. The ECU just needs a few days to relearn everything.
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Oct 12, 2009 - 7:05 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 8, '04 From Newport, RI Currently Offline Reputation: 63 (99%) |
haha we never had a 5sfte
after driving for a day the idle is just fine, actually perfect. today we changed the rear sway bar bushings, installed the rear strut bar, set the radio stations and drove that thing hard It feels like normal until about 3.5-4K rpms then it gets going and keeps going. It pulls right until 7200 and is quick. next we're going to do suspension (endlinks, ball joints <-toasted, new struts, springs, tie rods) hopefully before winter, then next spring body work, paint, and wheels. The color we picked is gonna be incredible on a 6gen -------------------- |
Oct 12, 2009 - 7:06 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 22, '07 From Buckinghamshire, UK Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
that is so cool Stef. did u get my PM?
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Oct 12, 2009 - 8:15 PM |
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haha we never had a 5sfte ah true, my fault was typing to quick. love the engine bay though (how everything is black/dark and the bright red cover sticks out) in your guys opinion, how does this compare to 5s-fe and the 7a-fe? since we never really got those motors over here (though there are a tiny amount of NZ new with the 5s) -------------------- |
Oct 12, 2009 - 9:07 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From Kelowna, BC Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Congrats on a job well done.
With the idle, mine also idles at around 1100rpm when I first start it up. As the engine warms up, it drops back to around 800rpm. -------------------- 1994 GT-S (BEAMS) swap complete |
Oct 12, 2009 - 10:13 PM |
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..., set the radio stations and drove that thing hard that increases HP The color we picked is gonna be incredible on a 6gen bet is going to be a metallic of some sort... -------------------- Learned a lot in 10 years... I hardly log in anymore, last login Today Sept 6 2019, and I was forced just to clarify a post. LOL
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Oct 12, 2009 - 10:31 PM |
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Who needs a wedding when you could swap a 3sge into another Celica?
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Oct 13, 2009 - 2:01 AM |
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wow awesome. speechless Great work
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Oct 13, 2009 - 4:35 AM |
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very impressive stuff.
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Oct 13, 2009 - 10:36 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 2, '05 From Guam Currently Offline Reputation: 15 (100%) |
thats just a cover over the valve cover right as it appears? Can that fit a 5s valve cover?
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Oct 13, 2009 - 12:42 PM |
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Moderator Joined Nov 5, '07 From New Zealand Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
on another point what are you using for the guage BEAMS or a modified preBEAMS one?
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Oct 13, 2009 - 8:07 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 8, '04 From Newport, RI Currently Offline Reputation: 63 (99%) |
haha we never had a 5sfte your guys opinion, how does this compare to 5s-fe and the 7a-fe? since we never really got those motors over here (though there are a tiny amount of NZ new with the 5s) it's definatly faster and more responsive, much much faster in above 3-4k rpms very impressive stuff. Why are you still using the stock air box? thanks. The intake is kinda touchy with the AFM, too much air and it runs rich, too little air and it runs lean. We just went with a K&N drop in filter which is just fine for us, for now. The other option is to get a CAI or short ram for a 01 v6 camry with the AFM adapter, but it's very important that the pipe diameter is the same as stock or the rich/lean issue comes up. thats just a cover over the valve cover right as it appears? Can that fit a 5s valve cover? yes, it's just a valve cover cover. I haven't tried it on a 5s but I'd have to say I don't think it would fit. on another point what are you using for the guage BEAMS or a modified preBEAMS one? modded non beams tach. We didn't want to go with Beams white face gauges so we are using a Dakota digital tach adapter and the tach works just fine. I do see a little jump with the needle now and again but nothing serious. njcc, I'll PM you a pic. -------------------- |
Oct 13, 2009 - 8:20 PM |
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thats just a cover over the valve cover right as it appears? Can that fit a 5s valve cover? yes, it's just a valve cover cover. I haven't tried it on a 5s but I'd have to say I don't think it would fit. The valve cover is more like a 3SGTE valve cover, it has the inner gasket with the cams almost individually housed, like this... The 5S valve cover doesn't have the holes that the valve cover cover screws into or the oil cap in the right location. There's probably a few other problems you'd run into but those are the most obvious without actually fitting it to a 5S. -------------------- |
Oct 14, 2009 - 7:20 AM |
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great job guys, I love seeing what comes out of your garage(s).
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Oct 14, 2009 - 12:47 PM |
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AWESOME.... you guys rock!
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Oct 14, 2009 - 2:00 PM |
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x2 on what Def said. Noice
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Oct 14, 2009 - 2:52 PM |
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or the oil cap in the right location. That would actually be a good thing for me, my strut tower bar gets in the way so I have to use a funnel when filling. -TC -------------------- Live your life for yourself. Don't hold back for anything or anyone.
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Oct 16, 2009 - 8:25 PM |
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Maybe I will get a wife or gf some day that loves to modify cars. It would be awesome, anyways I like the work that has been done. I am considering doing a swap in mine now.
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Oct 18, 2009 - 11:55 AM |
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wow you guys are amazing,
how much would you charge for a 3s gte swap |
Oct 18, 2009 - 12:36 PM |
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im coning up there and throwing it in the back of my hatch.
that would save me sooo much money -------------------- 1995 GT::::Diffusing the Situation エキサイティングカーレーシングチーム! march 2010 COTM : 6GC feature 2014 : january 2015-2016-2018 COTM |
Oct 18, 2009 - 1:48 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
Really cool swap. I like how the red engine went in the red car.
So who's faster? The turbo st or this thing? btw, is it me, or is that a little air duct on the alternator? -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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Oct 18, 2009 - 3:07 PM |
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Really cool swap. I like how the red engine went in the red car. So who's faster? The turbo st or this thing? btw, is it me, or is that a little air duct on the alternator? we haven't had the chance to race...yet but it's gonna be fun when we do it's not an air duct it's just a little heat sheild, there's even a heat shield on the clutch slave cylinder -------------------- |
Oct 18, 2009 - 3:16 PM |
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Really cool swap. I like how the red engine went in the red car. So who's faster? The turbo st or this thing? btw, is it me, or is that a little air duct on the alternator? we haven't had the chance to race...yet but it's gonna be fun when we do it's not an air duct it's just a little heat sheild, there's even a heat shield on the clutch slave cylinder I need some type of shield on mine. I think heat keeps killing my alternators as they last about a year before crapping out. A low profile one like that would be nice. -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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Oct 18, 2009 - 6:07 PM |
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haha we never had a 5sfte after driving for a day the idle is just fine, actually perfect. today we changed the rear sway bar bushings, installed the rear strut bar, set the radio stations and drove that thing hard It feels like normal until about 3.5-4K rpms then it gets going and keeps going. It pulls right until 7200 and is quick. next we're going to do suspension (endlinks, ball joints <-toasted, new struts, springs, tie rods) hopefully before winter, then next spring body work, paint, and wheels. The color we picked is gonna be incredible on a 6gen where can i find the sway bars for the front and rear for my celica? -------------------- 1996 Toyota Celica Project Mean Green
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Oct 18, 2009 - 6:21 PM |
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sorry not to thread jack but when are we doing my car?
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Nov 13, 2009 - 8:43 PM |
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Some new upgrades for our new car...
JDM tails, 5000k HID lows, and a new plate -------------------- |
Nov 14, 2009 - 1:23 AM |
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sorry not to thread jack but when are we doing my car? i seconed that! how much did the swap cost? motor and install? -------------------- 94 st
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Nov 14, 2009 - 2:39 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 29, '07 From Hoyt Lakes, MN Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
When is the exhaust going to get fixed. It looks as if the muffler is tilted towards the ground. Unless thats what you like.
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Nov 14, 2009 - 7:12 AM |
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When is the exhaust going to get fixed. It looks as if the muffler is tilted towards the ground. Unless thats what you like. i think its just the angle of the pic will. lookin good guys, now it just needs some bodywork and paint! -------------------- Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)
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Nov 25, 2009 - 11:23 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Oct 30, '07 From Raleigh, NC Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Have you had the chance to get it on the dyno?
I'm hoping to do a Beams swap at some point in time. Always seems like others things come up though. |
Nov 27, 2009 - 1:27 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 15, '07 From Tennessee Currently Offline Reputation: 52 (100%) |
cool looking plate, i have got some goodies coming over for me.
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Nov 28, 2009 - 1:23 AM |
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When is the exhaust going to get fixed. It looks as if the muffler is tilted towards the ground. Unless thats what you like. i think its just the angle of the pic will. lookin good guys, now it just needs some bodywork and paint! lol... silly of me to think that you guys would mess up on the exhaust. I totally missed out on the first page.. Nice work on the exhaust Manny. -------------------- 98 Celica gt red- totaled deer
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Nov 29, 2009 - 1:30 AM |
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what color is the car? it looks like a dark red? yah. stock? probably. just wondering.
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Nov 29, 2009 - 9:52 AM |
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last night, i finally got to drive dustin and steffs beams powered celica for the first time.
i figured i'd try and do i quick write up of my impressions of it, to try and give the guys (and gals!) that dont know what to expect, or are trying to decide if the beams is for them an idea what it feels like. first off, the car is VERY behaved around town, in low throttle, low load situations. it feels pretty much like a 5s if you keep the revs low, under 4k. it drives just like stock, and since they used a stock clutch, the driveability of it is just like a stock car. fantastic. once you start to get higher up in RPM range, the motor REALLY comes to life, and where the 3sge shines, IMO. it just loves revs. the longer you stay in gear, the faster it gets, right up to the 7250 redline. once you hear that motor sing @ 7k RPM, you just wanna keep downshifting. with a 5s, you tend to want to shift a little early, to stay in the meat of the powerband. the 7a, even more so. the 3sge is the exact opposite, it just begs to be reved up to redline. when you mash the throttle down, the intake note comes up, and that motor just sounds amazing as it rips up the RPM band, screaming its way to redline. i found myself downshifting into 3rd on the highway, and doing redline pulls just to hear the motor sing. the car feels strong, and pulls well. if your looking for brute power, or neck snapping torque, then you want a 3sgTe, because thats not what this motor does. power delievery is VERY linear, but still to me seemed to have a nice jump in power from ~5000rpm to redline. IMO this motor would be absolutly awesome for autocross. the higher redline of the 3sge makes the short gearing of the tranny alot more useable, and the LSD works fantasticly. i love the way it allows power delievery from mid corner to exit, where the car normally wants to just push out the LSD really helps pull the car out of the corner straight. overall, if you like a high reving, performance based n/a motor, that can act like a 5s, and be great around town and daily driving, you'll love the beams 3sge. -------------------- Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)
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Nov 29, 2009 - 9:57 AM |
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I had a feeling thats exactly what it was a better version of the 5s. do you think you can get a 5s to a beams equiv if you get cams, headers, exhaust, wires, plugs, intake, port polish, rebuild? naaa not even close. maybe only like 160 at most appr.
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Nov 29, 2009 - 10:40 AM |
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Moderator Joined Oct 1, '02 From fall river, ma Currently Offline Reputation: 13 (100%) |
I had a feeling thats exactly what it was a better version of the 5s. do you think you can get a 5s to a beams equiv if you get cams, headers, exhaust, wires, plugs, intake, port polish, rebuild? naaa not even close. maybe only like 160 at most appr. no. the head design on the 5s is meant for low end torque and economy, the ge head is performance based. the 1000rpm diffrence in rev limit is huge, and the powerband of the 2 motors are totally diffrent. -------------------- Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)
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Dec 27, 2009 - 5:39 PM |
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next for the Beams
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Dec 27, 2009 - 11:11 PM |
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nice write up manny about the 3sge
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Dec 28, 2009 - 4:03 AM |
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ya i heard the beams one time in a mr2 that was crashed, he revved it and it sounded so GOOD!!
Im glad you did that little write up. Cant wait till i get mine. Nice choice for the gt-s rims color. This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Dec 28, 2009 - 4:03 AM -------------------- For Sale Items:
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Jan 2, 2010 - 11:00 AM |
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the wheels are gonna be powdercoated white
added a TRD strut bay ya ! -------------------- |
Jan 2, 2010 - 11:31 AM |
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oh man that engine bay is gorgeous!!
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Jan 9, 2010 - 8:34 PM |
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More about the wheels
Before two had some curb rash, one was very bad. the other two were just fine... Dustin stripped the paint off all of them, I didn't do it very well Then I did some filing and sanding, globbed on some aluminum putty... did even more sanding and filing and sanding again... I just need to do a little more overall sanding on two of them and they will be ready to go for powder coating... I bought the powder from powderbuythepound.com, they shipped extremely fast Color will be Super Durable Wet White: ULTRA SMOOTH FINISH WITH THE HIGHEST GLOSS LEVELS !! PROVIDING LONG TERM RESISTANCE TO CHALKING AND LOSS OF GLOSS USING HIGH-PERFORMANCE PIGMENTS TO PROVIDE LONG TERM COLOR STABILITY ~ SUPER DURABLE WET WHITE ~ POLYESTER~GLOSS LEVEL 95+5% ~ CURE TIME = 400F/10 MIN -------------------- |
Jan 9, 2010 - 8:41 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 3, '04 From Portsmouth, RI Currently Offline Reputation: 33 (100%) |
And on another update note,
I installed the hood struts last weekend the day after the TRD strut bar pictured. Need to get a good updated shot of the engine bay. Brought the car to work today to fix a few things with the car. Both lower ball joints were blown out and really noisy, put new ones in Both front tie rod ends had some play, installed new ones today Driver side axle was clicking, put another one in Right rear adjustment arm bushings were blown, installed another arm and alignment all those things made a big difference and make me feel so much better about the car now. I feel like we are making some progress now. -------------------- |
Jan 10, 2010 - 4:46 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 24, '08 From Orange County, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 33 (100%) |
hell yea drool over the engine bay pics!! I love the fact how you guys repainted the intake manifold and valve cover. Oo and white powder coated rims. white on red reminds me of the 5th gen, sort of like rally style. so which one is faster the beams or your green celica?!
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Jan 11, 2010 - 3:02 PM |
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Jan 11, 2010 - 3:19 PM |
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Love it!
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Jan 11, 2010 - 5:14 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 18, '09 From Orlando Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
Gorgeous, absolutely gorgeous.
How hard was it to sand the wheels? Any machine tools used? -------------------- '97 ST \ Eibach \ KYB \ Kenwood \ Alpine \ Cusco \ OEM+ [sold 10/18]
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Jan 11, 2010 - 9:48 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 3, '04 From Portsmouth, RI Currently Offline Reputation: 33 (100%) |
Yeah I just used a little hand held electric sander at the end, that just made it a little easier but wasn't really necessary.
Mostly a file, aluminum putty, and a lot of sand paper. -------------------- |
Jan 11, 2010 - 9:49 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 18, '09 From Orlando Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
Haven't heard of putty ever being used, but I guess you need to if the rash is really deep. Mine might be just as bad as yours on a wheel or two.
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Jan 11, 2010 - 9:57 PM |
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Yeah I found it a long time ago at the Japanese marketplace in Jersey and bought it cause I thought I could use it one day.
I used them on my wheels that are on the green car before we painted them. I had a lot left so I used it on these. Its very nice stuff, it gets very hard yet says very sandable and easy to work with. -------------------- |
Jan 11, 2010 - 10:53 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 18, '09 From Orlando Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
Did you use it on all of them or just the worst one? The worst one looks like something just chewed on it when the tire was off.
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Jan 11, 2010 - 11:34 PM |
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wow din't know the trd strutbrace fits with the BEAMS engines, or was that just the 3sgte?
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Jan 12, 2010 - 10:14 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 8, '04 From Newport, RI Currently Offline Reputation: 63 (99%) |
wow din't know the trd strutbrace fits with the BEAMS engines, or was that just the 3sgte? how are you painting the rims might I ask? powdercoating? it fits the with the Beams just perfectly and looks good too. yes, we are having the wheels powdercoated white. We dropped off 2 last night to get done, I can't wait to see how they come out. -------------------- |
Jan 12, 2010 - 10:51 AM |
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nice work how much the whole project run?
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Jan 14, 2010 - 8:40 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 3, '04 From Portsmouth, RI Currently Offline Reputation: 33 (100%) |
Did you use it on all of them or just the worst one? The worst one looks like something just chewed on it when the tire was off. Those close up pictures in the last post on the previous page are all of that one really bad wheel. I used the putty on two of them, a little on another one and mostly on that bad one. nice work how much the whole project run? Well we aren't done yet, the car still needs bodywork and paint. The motor swap itself was not bad at all, its all the other little details that start adding up quick. I think my green car, as a whole, has cost me around $12-15k in upgrades over the years. I'm not sure about Dustin's blue car but I'm sure its pretty close to that and I'm sure when this car is all said and done it won't be too far under the other two. This post has been edited by hurley97: Jan 14, 2010 - 8:44 PM -------------------- |
Jan 14, 2010 - 8:56 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 8, '08 From Orlando, Florida Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
that aluminum putty looks fun...
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Jan 15, 2010 - 2:55 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 24, '08 From Orange County, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 33 (100%) |
hmm how come you guys just didnt swap it into the green celica?
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Jan 16, 2010 - 2:54 PM |
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can you maybe write down the steps you guys took to fix the wheels, as far as sanding and filing go? I've been wanting to repair my gt-s wheels for awhile now.
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Jan 16, 2010 - 2:57 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 18, '09 From Orlando Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
hmm how come you guys just didnt swap it into the green celica? $10,000+ invested into the turbo setup, as far as I know. It'd be dumb to sell that. This post has been edited by SwissFerdi: Jan 16, 2010 - 2:59 PM -------------------- '97 ST \ Eibach \ KYB \ Kenwood \ Alpine \ Cusco \ OEM+ [sold 10/18]
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Jan 17, 2010 - 2:17 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 3, '04 From Portsmouth, RI Currently Offline Reputation: 33 (100%) |
hmm how come you guys just didnt swap it into the green celica? So me and Dustin (Batman722) decided to postpone the wedding another year and buy another 6th gen project instead...
That and the 99 Solara I've been using as a winter car is going to my sister in a few weeks so we needed to have one available to each of us as a 'winter beater'... -------------------- |
Jan 17, 2010 - 11:11 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 3, '04 From Portsmouth, RI Currently Offline Reputation: 33 (100%) |
Manny welded in a new resonator today. The beams was way too loud, we actually got pulled over a few days ago because of it.
So I bought a Vibrant Performance Ultra Quiet Resonator. It's much better now, I'm happy with the results. -------------------- |
Jan 18, 2010 - 1:13 AM |
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what dp you think it was about? before and after?
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Jan 18, 2010 - 2:14 AM |
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last night, i finally got to drive dustin and steffs beams powered celica for the first time. i figured i'd try and do i quick write up of my impressions of it, to try and give the guys (and gals!) that dont know what to expect, or are trying to decide if the beams is for them an idea what it feels like. first off, the car is VERY behaved around town, in low throttle, low load situations. it feels pretty much like a 5s if you keep the revs low, under 4k. it drives just like stock, and since they used a stock clutch, the driveability of it is just like a stock car. fantastic. once you start to get higher up in RPM range, the motor REALLY comes to life, and where the 3sge shines, IMO. it just loves revs. the longer you stay in gear, the faster it gets, right up to the 7250 redline. once you hear that motor sing @ 7k RPM, you just wanna keep downshifting. with a 5s, you tend to want to shift a little early, to stay in the meat of the powerband. the 7a, even more so. the 3sge is the exact opposite, it just begs to be reved up to redline. when you mash the throttle down, the intake note comes up, and that motor just sounds amazing as it rips up the RPM band, screaming its way to redline. i found myself downshifting into 3rd on the highway, and doing redline pulls just to hear the motor sing. the car feels strong, and pulls well. if your looking for brute power, or neck snapping torque, then you want a 3sgTe, because thats not what this motor does. power delievery is VERY linear, but still to me seemed to have a nice jump in power from ~5000rpm to redline. IMO this motor would be absolutly awesome for autocross. the higher redline of the 3sge makes the short gearing of the tranny alot more useable, and the LSD works fantasticly. i love the way it allows power delievery from mid corner to exit, where the car normally wants to just push out the LSD really helps pull the car out of the corner straight. overall, if you like a high reving, performance based n/a motor, that can act like a 5s, and be great around town and daily driving, you'll love the beams 3sge. this is exactly what driving a 7th gen is like. its a wonderful thing having VVT tuning the cams to provide power through the RPM range. I just love looking at 7th gen dynos and seeing the HP curve continue to rise all the way to redline. now that more and more toyota engines are coming with dual VVT the tuning can only get better. i wonder if attaching a camcon on the beams will make more power. we have shown time and time again that with VVT tuning you can gain more power. take mine for example, i gained over 100 HP just tuning VVT -------------------- 2001 Celica GT-S Turbo
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Jan 18, 2010 - 12:28 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 24, '08 From Orange County, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 33 (100%) |
i already asked if adding a camcom will give allow for better tuning. but according to the guys over at the beams forums, its not worth it, and is just better to go with a stand alone.
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Jan 19, 2010 - 3:27 AM |
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i was wondering where you got your hood struts, what brand are they, and how much? thanks
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Jan 19, 2010 - 3:39 AM |
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You can check the exterior sticky thread, has info on where to get them etc
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Jan 19, 2010 - 3:45 AM |
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Jan 19, 2010 - 7:51 PM |
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SO sick!!!Cant wait for the results of 7afte vs 3sge beams
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Feb 1, 2010 - 5:05 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 3, '04 From Portsmouth, RI Currently Offline Reputation: 33 (100%) |
Experimenting with the Beams... I think I need a little more time to decide if I like it or not
It looks fine right now, my concern is that when the car is finally painted and the body looks good will the plate holder make it look unfinished? Of course it will be painted professionally and properly but I'm just afraid the difference in color might make it look like we just threw it on afterward and haven't painted it yet. I know the cf plate holder would look more finished but the way I feel about cf is that it should be functional (meaning the part should actually weigh less) and be painted. Also installed a 7th gen non-power antenna today, just need to get a mast for it now. Dustin read through some how-to's where people said something about using the 6th gen base and having to notch something and shim something else to make it all fit nice, I just used the 7th gen antenna base and ornament (black thing on the outside of the car) and it took about 10 mins and all fit perfectly fine. The bracket inside just needs to be loosened and turned the opposite way, but I'm not too worried about that, I'll get to it eventually. -------------------- |
Feb 1, 2010 - 5:20 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 18, '09 From Orlando Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
I like it, but CF would look better. I've thought about rattlecanning my license bezel black since it looks good on silver cars, but yours pretty much came out the way I had it in my head...a bit unfinished, like your OEM part was broken and you took this from a black 6GC.
Go for CF. -------------------- '97 ST \ Eibach \ KYB \ Kenwood \ Alpine \ Cusco \ OEM+ [sold 10/18]
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Feb 1, 2010 - 6:49 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 3, '04 From Portsmouth, RI Currently Offline Reputation: 33 (100%) |
a bit unfinished, like your OEM part was broken and you took this from a black 6GC. yeah, but I think you get that feeling because the rest of the car is a POS, cause thats what gives me that same feeling. If it was a good looking car with a good looking paint job would you still get the same feeling? Now, the color we are going to paint the car is going to be a bit darker and metallic. So a darker, nicer red with the black plate holder and we are thinking we want to do a black roof also. This post has been edited by hurley97: Feb 1, 2010 - 6:50 PM -------------------- |
Feb 1, 2010 - 7:05 PM |
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you just need more black accents to make it look like it belongs there, being the ONLY black part in the car is what makes it look out of place.
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Feb 1, 2010 - 8:00 PM |
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i dont think it looks all that bad actually...i think it looks like its supposed to be that color...and it breaks the ass end up a little bit as well....yea red would look good, but i think black looks fine....i would leave it and have the rest of the car painted...i mean...if carbon fiber isnt your thing...i would stick with black...maybe a set of SS-III riser blocks in black to help accent it? i dunno if your into them or not...but over all the car looks great...and the back plate looks just fine in black
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that is the euro style license plate bezel. thats why it looks weird...
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Feb 1, 2010 - 9:54 PM |
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yeah, but I think you get that feeling because the rest of the car is a POS, cause thats what gives me that same feeling. If it was a good looking car with a good looking paint job would you still get the same feeling? Black roof would be AWESOME. But no, I don't think that's it. I don't think it would look good on mine either, and black and silver look great together, plus my tails are smoked. I can try though. -------------------- '97 ST \ Eibach \ KYB \ Kenwood \ Alpine \ Cusco \ OEM+ [sold 10/18]
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Feb 2, 2010 - 7:55 AM |
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Dustin's idea is to go black roof anyway cause it'll look great regardless... then get a second euro rear plate holder and have one painted red with the rest of the car and have the other painted black with the roof. Then we can try the black one on for a while and if we don't like it switch to the red one. I think that works for me.
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you guys do the work like its you're paid profession.. everything looks so clean. If I didnt know anything about 6gcs.. Id say that engine came out of the factory for a celica GT
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Feb 3, 2010 - 8:40 PM |
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you guys do the work like its you're paid profession.. everything looks so clean. If I didnt know anything about 6gcs.. Id say that engine came out of the factory for a celica GT It pretty much did, for a left hand drive Celica anyway. No real customization in mounting it or anything. Only wiring changes and the brake master cylinder was in the way of the canister vsv mounting point on the air intake hose.... but the JDM Guy family thanks you anyway -------------------- |
Jun 2, 2010 - 9:45 AM |
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update?
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Jun 2, 2010 - 10:14 AM |
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a week or so ago we dropped it with TRD springs and KYBs, today I'm gonna put in some RacingBeat solid endlinks
Our 7gen wheels are off to powdercoat and we should have those back in a week or so, then new tires mounted. we've got a 97 front end on and we made a deal to get the bodywork/paint done probably by July. -------------------- |
Jun 16, 2010 - 4:04 PM |
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7th Gen white powdercoated wheels and new Goodyear Eagle GT tires are on, I also installed the endlinks today.
I also ordered new quarter windows yesterday. All non-moveable windows will be removed for paint, quarters windows and front windshield will be replaced with new ones, rear window will be the one from the parts car. This post has been edited by hurley97: Jun 16, 2010 - 4:40 PM -------------------- |
Jun 16, 2010 - 4:21 PM |
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the white rims are gonna look SMMMOOOKKINNN hot against the new paint.
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